Pray4Tulo

[RealAccountant]

It wasn't as of Tulo was lighting the plate on fire. Since joiningbhe was probably our 5th or 6th best hitter

[BigCecil]

I am serious, if Pillar swung at only good pitches he would be making consistently hard contact. He is able to make contact with pitches well out of the strike zone, just imagine if he was a patient hitter who waited for good pitches to swing at.

 

 

And if we had tits we would be chicks NY. That's THE issue with Pillar. He has poor pitch recognition/selection at the dish. The AB he had yesterday with the bases loaded 1st game was classic Pillar. Yanks walking everyone and he swings at 2 balls passing up an obvious BB to any hitter with reasonable discipline.

 

The book on him is to throw off the plate and get him to chase...which he does. He has a full season under his belt now and he hasn't shown much improvement. His D makes it somewhat tolerable in a stacked line up.

[RealAccountant]

My mother works in a mental institute and she says that I need to stop masturbating so that i can promote quicker healing for my forearm. Could be why it's 2-3 weeks rather than the usual 4-6. Maybe labadee can come over some times and help out ?

 

Fix that for you

 

Lol jk

[polar bear]

f***ing Pillar

 

Playing favorited here Eh? It was Pillar's catch to make,Tulo got in the way.

[Inklink]

Maybe I'm just high on 3 straight beatings of NYY, but I don't feel as dejected about Tulo's injury as I feel I should be. Maybe because Goins' defense is so terrific and it was displayed right away yesterday? Not sure. No denying that Tulo's automatic on defense, and we need him back ASAP.

[nextyear]

I have watched the video replay a few times - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T6Gqglg32c . Goins was initially calling for the ball with his hand up, and Tulowitzki then called off Goins (you can see in the replay Tulowitzki calling off Goins), however, I don't see any motion by Pillar that he was calling for the ball. Pillar might have been too far back to hear Tulowitzki call for the ball. It seemed like Pillar decided it was his ball and was going to take it no matter what. Pillar seems to play defense the way he bats; any ball he can get to, he is going to take regardless, just like any ball he can hit he is going to swing at, even if it is an obvious ball. Maybe the injury to Tulowitzki will change Pillar's reckless behavior before he kills someone (it is a tough way to learn for the Blue Jays).

 

Losing Tulowitzki will hurt especially since it looked like he was starting to get into an offensive groove recently.

 

Kevin Pillar should he hitting better, if he could return to his June production then that would make up offensively for Tulowitzki's loss; but Pillar is an exasperating player, he could have gotten an RBI by drawing a walk on obvious balls in extra innings in game 1, but instead he seemed to intentionally swing at crap so that he would get his chance to hit the ball (instead I think he struck out). Pillar should be a good hitter but his lack of plate discipline is maddening.

 

 

One thing that is unfortunate about this injury is that there was no reason for Tulowitzki to call off Goins since Goins was camped under the ball and is a sure handed infielder. Goins also had a better perspective on Pillar running towards the ball and likely would have avoided contact (even if Pillar ran into Goins, Goins is like rubber and would probably have bounced off).

[JFD]

I'm actually worried that Pillar may go out there today and actually try too hard to hit everything at the plate.

 

he does that every day.

[EMK19]

Maybe I'm just high on 3 straight beatings of NYY, but I don't feel as dejected about Tulo's injury as I feel I should be. Maybe because Goins' defense is so terrific and it was displayed right away yesterday? Not sure. No denying that Tulo's automatic on defense, and we need him back ASAP.

 

I'm still confident that we're good enough to see the rest of this through to the division title. To still have just as solid middle infield defence out there despite Tulo being out is comforting at least. Hopefully Pennington can at least get back to his career average at the plate so that he contributes even a little bit at the plate.

 

he does that every day.

 

Good point, but I was thinking in similarity to last year's hack-at-literally-everything version of Pillar, his approach somewhat improved in comparison thus far this year.

[IBTrini]

I hope Pillar runs into a brick wall and doesn't get up.

Really??? Almost everything I see/hear stuff like this from a fan I feel that is the lowest a fan can possibly go... and then I am surprised... another moronic fan pipes up to show how utterly obnoxious and clueless a fickle fan-base can be. Congrats, you are in the running for 1st place in the "Most Stupid Fan Comment" category.

[JFD]

AA does not sound optimistic that even if Travis comes back he can contribute much. "Maybe an occasional start. A pinch hit here or there. At this point it's been so long that his timing would be gone."

 

wtf? I'll be pissed if he's healthy and doesn't play because "his timing might be gone".

[ValiantJaysFan]

Really??? Almost everything I see/hear stuff like this from a fan I feel that is the lowest a fan can possibly go... and then I am surprised... another moronic fan pipes up to show how utterly obnoxious and clueless a fickle fan-base can be. Congrats, you are in the running for 1st place in the "Most Stupid Fan Comment" category.

 

What level of stupid did you have to attain to gain the position of judge for "most stupid" comment?

 

I've hated Pillar for a long time. The only thing separating him from Arencibia status is his defence.

[polar bear]

Lately though,he is getting back to his old bad habits at the plate,swinging at anything.

[polar bear]

Lately though,he is getting back to his old bad habits at the plate,swinging at anything.

[nextyear]

wtf? I'll be pissed if he's healthy and doesn't play because "his timing might be gone".

 

When Travis first came back from the DL last time (same injury) he wasn't hitting well even in the minors (for the first week or so). How can the blue Jays expect him to get his timing back during the playoffs, especially when his defense isn't as good as Pennington or Goins? Travis' big advantage is his bat, if he doesn't have that then what is the point of having him come back early?

[JFD]

When Travis first came back from the DL last time (same injury) he wasn't hitting well even in the minors (for the first week or so). How can the blue Jays expect him to get his timing back during the playoffs, especially when his defense isn't as good as Pennington or Goins? Travis' big advantage is his bat, if he doesn't have that then what is the point of having him come back early?

 

wasn't he still injured the first time he came back? If he's healthy, I'm confident he can swing the bat with that sexy swing of his.

[nextyear]

wasn't he still injured the first time he came back? If he's healthy, I'm confident he can swing the bat with that sexy swing of his.

 

He shouldn't have been; he was off for a month and given the ok to play. Maybe you are thinking about the two weeks in May when he was playing hurt? When Travis came back off the DL, spent a week in rehab in the minors and returned to the Blue Jays he was swinging well until he re-injured himself.

[JFD]

He shouldn't have been; he was off for a month and given the ok to play. Maybe you are thinking about the two weeks in May when he was playing hurt? When Travis came back off the DL, spent a week in rehab in the minors and returned to the Blue Jays he was swinging well until he re-injured himself.

 

yeah you're right. I guess it's just a desperate pipe dream on my part. his bat will be missed...

[North of 60]

Hopefully they get a specialist to handle Tulo and keep Poulis away from him.

[vilifyingforce]

What level of stupid did you have to attain to gain the position of judge for "most stupid" comment?

 

I've hated Pillar for a long time. The only thing separating him from Arencibia status is his defence.

 

Fantastic insight. The only thing separating a glove first player from a scrub is his defence! You can say the same about Smoak, Goins, Pennington and now Barney.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Fantastic insight. The only thing separating a glove first player from a scrub is his defence! You can say the same about Smoak, Goins, Pennington and now Barney.

 

I'm talking about his ego and selfish play.

 

Hey everyone, did you know that if you don't like Pillar you are a bandwagon fan in villifyingforce's eyes? I don't like Pillar, therefore I haven't been a Jays fan my whole life. It follows. I don't like Pillar, therefore I didn't suffer through all of Dustin McGowan's 673855289 comeback attempts. It follows.

[Stangstag]

When Travis first came back from the DL last time (same injury) he wasn't hitting well even in the minors (for the first week or so). How can the blue Jays expect him to get his timing back during the playoffs, especially when his defense isn't as good as Pennington or Goins? Travis' big advantage is his bat, if he doesn't have that then what is the point of having him come back early?

 

Travis had a 155 wRC+ for July (after coming back from the DL). He was hitting very well until he re-injured the shoulder.

[L54]

What level of stupid did you have to attain to gain the position of judge for "most stupid" comment?

 

I've hated Pillar for a long time. The only thing separating him from Arencibia status is his defence.

 

And the only thing separating Goins from Tulowitzki status is the bat.

 

Do you see why you can't make statements like that?

[ValiantJaysFan]

And the only thing separating Goins from Tulowitzki status is the bat.

 

Do you see why you can't make statements like that?

 

Again, talking about his ego and IQ.

 

Do you see why I can make statements like that?

[L54]

Forgive me for not being able to read your mind

[ValiantJaysFan]

Forgive me for not being able to read your mind

 

But presumably you can read this thread, no?

[L54]

Forgive me for not reading every post on the BJMB

[ValiantJaysFan]

Forgive me for not reading every post on the BJMB

 

I grant you forgiveness.

[fapaholic]

My friend, no disrespect, but this is professional baseball. Any player who doesn't call it on a ball in the air doesn't last long in the game. You learn it at an early level. Believe me, whether you can tell by replay or not, Pillar called for it, which then made it his ball.

 

Also, the reason it's understood that it's the outfielder's ball on a play like this is exactly so you don't have to check to see where other players (i.e., infielders) are. Once you look up, you run a pretty basic risk of missing the ball. This play was unfortunate, but it happens. Hopefully, Tulo won't be long in recovery.

 

My friend no disrespect, but Pillar is well known to be dumb as a stump. Just because you say he called it doesn't make it so.

 

Infielders go back on those kind of plays all the time and make them as it was basically a popup. Tulo called for it and was under it for an easy play.

 

There's no visual evidence that Pillar ever did call for it that I've seen.

 

Now if the players say he called for it, then fine it was an unfortunate incident. Even then it was probably avoidable with more situational awareness from Pillar.

 

I guess we are agreeing to disagree on this one.

 

Anyway Go Jays!

[CJ-Freeway]

I think it's safe to say: f*** Pillar

[labadee]

My wife works in rehabilitation and she says there is a machine that can promote quicker healing for bones. Could be why it's 2-3 weeks rather than the usual 4-6. Maybe labadee can weigh in on that?

 

Are you referring to hyperbaric oxygen therapy? There haven't been enough randomized control trials to support or refute the use of them (on fractures; there is decent evidence for their use in ulcers), however there are lots of anecdotal evidence that they may work. I'm not sure it'd cut healing time in half, but the theory is delivering oxygen at higher pressures will result in more oxygen delivered to the site of injury. I'm no sports rehabilitation doctor, but every injury and every fracture is different and results and healing time will vary. I didn't catch the presses, but from what I read they hope he'll be back in 2-3 weeks. That really doesn't mean much to me.

 

If I was Tulo, I'd do that hyperbaric thing. It's quite safe anyways, so what's the harm