GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 I'm saying that "if a pitcher gives up few earned runs, that is a successful outing for the team", and also saying "that does not indicate that this pitcher is likely to repeat that successful outing for the team". Bottom line, success = wins, which is giving up fewer runs than your opponents. Naturally, however, you want to have a guy on the mound who is the most likely to repeat that success which, according to the peripheral stats, Sanchez is not (but f*** if he doesn't keep mocking the s*** out of those peripherals, somehow...) Ofc, I'm just debating where to attribute that success. Do we have a final count on SwStr/Pitches yet? IIRC he was up near 100 and someone said 7, so that's not very encouraging.
baubau Verified Member Posted May 30, 2015 Posted May 30, 2015 Deadpool is right ................. on with that avatar!
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Pitchers don't give up earned runs though, teams do. Luck and the defense had a successful outing, Sanchez did not. Six swinging strikes which included just one with the curveball. did you actually count..lol
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Sanchez now 80/90 qualified pitchers in xFIP Right around where you would expect a 5th starter to be
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 did you actually count..lol "Bet you nerds don't even watch the game" "Lol you watched the game so closely you counted SwStr? Nerd" sigh
LTR Verified Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Sanchez now 80/90 qualified pitchers in xFIP Right around where you would expect a 5th starter to be Not sure if serious.
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 "Bet you nerds don't even watch the game" "Lol you watched the game so closely you counted SwStr? Nerd" sigh lol...now you're just putting words in my mouth and the nerds weren't smart enough to count to 7. 7 not 6 swinging strikes. It was a much better outing than I originally thought. Analyzing every single game is ridiculous. Sanchez wasn't as sharp as he was in the previous 2 games, but a little luck and he competed. He wasn't using the changeup at all. He mixed it in a bit more over his last couple starts....maybe he just wasn't feeling it.
Governator Community Moderator Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Sanchez now 80/90 qualified pitchers in xFIP Right around where you would expect a 5th starter to be A 5th starter on a last place team you mean.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Analyzing every single game is ridiculous. That's what this thread has turned into lol
ElNik2013 Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Sanchez K:BB is Drabek level As Spanky would say, rinse and repeat!
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 That's what this thread has turned into lol as a jays fan when a young kid comes out and doesn't have his best stuff and is fortunate to only give up 2 runs I'm feeling pretty good as a Jays fan. This outing did little to tell what the prospects are for him moving forward. He finished strong and I'm sure they'll look at the start and go over his mistakes and try and get him in a position to limit those mistakes next time. I think it's hilarious people are coming on here to try and prove how good or bad a pitcher is from 103 pitches. Once we have 300 or 400 innings at the mlb level we can talk...103 pitches..lol Some of you guys need to go to a bar and stare at the opposite sex for a while.
tercet Verified Member Posted May 31, 2015 Author Posted May 31, 2015 I'm not going to even bother calc'ing the numbers.. But he gave up like a 1500 ops vs LHB today right?
tercet Verified Member Posted May 31, 2015 Author Posted May 31, 2015 Giving up HR to LHB backup/AAA catcher with career ops of 536.. lol
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Giving up HR to LHB backup/AAA catcher with career ops of 536.. lol Yu Darvish gave up a homer to Herrmann too. Guess he's s*** too right? Holy f*** tercet, learn baseball. Like out of anyone here I'm one of the least likely to defend Sanchez but you're just being so hilariously dumn.
BTS Community Moderator Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Yu Darvish gave up a homer to Herrmann too. Guess he's s*** too right? Holy f*** tercet, learn baseball. Like out of anyone here I'm one of the least likely to defend Sanchez but you're just being so hilariously dumn. Be careful. Your skin will be hanging next to mine in his closet.
GD Old-Timey Member Posted May 31, 2015 Posted May 31, 2015 Be careful. Your skin will be hanging next to mine in his closet. So will everyone else's, no point in delaying it.
tercet Verified Member Posted June 2, 2015 Author Posted June 2, 2015 [ATTACH=CONFIG]1061[/ATTACH] http://gyazo.com/a86b7731481147f1a8c14f5509e57993 BOOM 10K CDN, 91/HR!
ScientificReason Verified Member Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 How the heck is Tercet not banned?
ScientificReason Verified Member Posted June 2, 2015 Posted June 2, 2015 Giving up HR to LHB backup/AAA catcher with career ops of 536.. lol Roy Halladay has given up Homeruns to scrubs before..he must suck. Great argument.
RealAccountant Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 You watching the Sachize tonight tercet?
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 only 2 K, 0.154 BABIP in 5 innings.... unsustainable. Send him down!
IronLadle Verified Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 Guy can't even throw a no-hitter... send him down
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 You idiots, you post this after his start is complete. Now there's still a chance for him to walk the lineup and you both get ridiculed even more.
IronLadle Verified Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 You idiots, you post this after his start is complete. Now there's still a chance for him to walk the lineup and you both get ridiculed even more. I know it's risky
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2015 Posted June 6, 2015 You idiots, you post this after his start is complete. Now there's still a chance for him to walk the lineup and you both get ridiculed even more. stick your superstition where the sun don't shine
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