Now Moves

[comeon sense]

Gose desrves to stay.He can run,and put pressure on a defense,and we went 23-10 with him in and rasmus out.

Pillar also should be here,and Kratz is good if he gets enough AB,s .When will these guys spot talent?

Send down Mastri.Reimold makes sense for his A.L east experience.

All we hear about is how we miss Lawries defense,but noone says how much we miss his speed.He never steals because we dont want/need him to,and thats fine.With Gose up here,at least we would increase our chance of scoring with him 9,Reyes 1.Pillar could be 8,and you could have 3 guys with speed at the bottom of the lineup.Rasmus is asleep.These guys lack intensity,just like last season.They should be able to play at least .500 ball until they get back those 2 key guys they just lost....If they make smart choice moves now!

[TwistedLogic]

C'mon man?

What "c'mon man"? Unless you were making a bad pun about his name, he's right about everything he said. He's just trying to create some objective discussion, something that is too much of a rarity on this forum, especially with new users.

 

Gose desrves to stay.He can run,and put pressure on a defense,and we went 23-10 with him in and rasmus out.

Pillar also should be here,and Kratz is good if he gets enough AB,s .When will these guys spot talent?

Send down Mastri.Reimold makes sense for his A.L east experience.

All we hear about is how we miss Lawries defense,but noone says how much we miss his speed.He never steals because we dont want/need him to,and thats fine.With Gose up here,at least we would increase our chance of scoring with him 9,Reyes 1.Pillar could be 8,and you could have 3 guys with speed at the bottom of the lineup.Rasmus is asleep.These guys lack intensity,just like last season.They should be able to play at least .500 ball until they get back those 2 key guys they just lost....If they make smart choice moves now!

 

I agree with everything you said; Gose does deserve to stay, but now that they've got Reimold, Gose is that much stronger as a depth option ready and waiting at AAA in case someone gets injured. An outfield of Melky, Colby and Bautista with Reimold off the bench and DH'ing against lefties should be more than adequate for a team trying to win.

 

In the infield, not only should the Jays pursue someone like Headley, they need to have the balls to move Reyes off short. I don't know why Lawrie at short is never mentioned as a possibility, but he's got good range and a wicked arm and it's worth a shot; he can't be any worse than Reyes. An infield (once healthy -- if that will ever happen) of Headley-Lawrie-Reyes-Edwin should be better than satisfactory as well. Tolleson and Francisco then gain value for being bench guys as opposed to starters.

 

Kratz should be called back up as the backup catcher; he's good against lefties, great defensively, and the team shouldn't have to suffer for four days because Old Man f***tard needs someone to catch his s***** knuckler once a week.

 

OF| Melky-Colby-Jose IF| Headley-Lawrie-Reyes-Edwin C| Navarro DH| Lind

BENCH| Kratz, Tolleson, Francisco, Reimold

 

There's enough defense, offence, power, and platoon splits there to be able to be "in it" in every game. With Gose in Buffalo as an injury replacement, you shore up the OF. Ideally you cut Navarro, but we know they won't do that, so catching is essentially "set" as well, with the less-than-desirable options of Navarro and Thole. All that really needs to be worked on beyond the above lineup is getting one good infield replacement to sit as depth in AAA (like Gose), a starting pitcher, and an extra relief arm.

 

If Headley is possible to obtain; good. If it's possible to add Kennedy to that, then great. If it's possible to add Benoit on top of all that and still make a reasonable trade, then excellent. They can fill all of their holes in one trade and get back to focusing on winning.

 

And if not, then they need to stop f***ing around with their tail between their legs and start a legitimate firesale. Enough of this ******** "hovering in the middle" garbage that has gone on 20 years too long.

[Angrioter]

Glenn and Gillespie over Gose-Pillar isn't a smart move.

 

Now, Pillar is the Gibbons personal Judas. For him and f*** the FO.

[Convo]

The Dog Returns: Part 88,523

[CJ-Freeway]

Wtf is Mastro doing on the big team anyway. .. now that we have Reimold, I don't see why we need to keep Mastro. And I would recall Gose to keep some speed on the bench. Other than that, the dude can't even bunt.

[Angrioter]

Wtf is Mastro doing on the big team anyway. .. now that we have Reimold, I don't see why we need to keep Mastro. And I would recall Gose to keep some speed on the bench. Other than that, the dude can't even bunt.

 

SHAAUP AND LEARN BASEBALL!!

 

Did you see the Mastro's hair? - That hair belong to the bigs, he's our Angel Pagan.

[G-Snarls]

I don't think any move we can make with the current 40 man roster helps us play any better than. 400 baseball at best. We're screwed. I'm sorry but we are.

 

Should we try and do the best we can? Yes.

 

Gillespie should not be here. Colby should play every day and he needs to step the f*** up. Kratz should be up. AA needs to land an infielder like Prado or Hadley immediately and reassess the pitching situation in a week or two. But this all feels like it's going nowhere good.

[Governator]

I think the most idiotic thing the Jays haven't done is swap Kratz & Thole. Pampering Dickey should be long over with at this point. I'd gladly trade an extra 2 passed balls every 5th game for an available bat in the line up who can hit for average, hit lefties and has pop. It seems to be the most logical 'trade' we can make right now that will improve the team. Any small improvement that's available now is better than doing nothing at this point.

[BlueJaysGirl]

I'd like to see GM_AA trade for Gordon Beckham to man 2B. I don't think he'd cost must and he'd give us maybe a .700 OPS with solid defense. AND he bats right.

[BlueJaysGirl]

I think the most idiotic thing the Jays haven't done is swap Kratz & Thole. Pampering Dickey should be long over with at this point. I'd gladly trade an extra 2 passed balls every 5th game for an available bat in the line up who can hit for average, hit lefties and has pop. It seems to be the most logical 'trade' we can make right now that will improve the team. Any small improvement that's available now is better than doing nothing at this point.

 

Kratz would help us for sure. He might even be able to play a decent 1B, or at least DH against lefties until EE is back. He's got pop. He'll bat .220 but he can make solid contact occasionally. More reliable that Juan for shizzle.

[Terminator]

Kratz would help us for sure. He might even be able to play a decent 1B, or at least DH against lefties until EE is back. He's got pop. He'll bat .220 but he can make solid contact occasionally. More reliable that Juan for shizzle.

 

Yeah I agree. Against lefties Kratz could catch and Navarro could move to DH.

[BlueJaysGirl]

Yeah I agree. Against lefties Kratz could catch and Navarro could move to DH.

 

Not to mention I really like him as a catcher, and he's got a hose back there.

[BlueJaysGirl]

I don't think any move we can make with the current 40 man roster helps us play any better than. 400 baseball at best. We're screwed. I'm sorry but we are.

 

Should we try and do the best we can? Yes.

 

Gillespie should not be here. Colby should play every day and he needs to step the f*** up. Kratz should be up. AA needs to land an infielder like Prado or Hadley immediately and reassess the pitching situation in a week or two. But this all feels like it's going nowhere good.

 

Exactly. It's frustrating having a $130M payroll and be forced to pick others crumbs off the floor to fortify our injury-riddled roster. Honestly, if AA cannot pull the trigger on anything we need to start selling.

[G-Snarls]

Not to mention I really like him as a catcher, and he's got a hose back there.

 

Love the term "hose" and that you know what it means.

[theblujay]

We're in big trouble right now with the injuries and the s***** performances. I'm not sure what the right direction is but they better decide quickly.

[shortstop]

that's exactly it...this isn't rocket science...team offense sucks right now with no end in sight...ergo, go get a bat...we're in july & instead of 1 or 2 weeks before the deadline, just pull the trigger and make it 3 weeks before...if you need to give up a B+ instead of a B prospect, then do it...

[G-Snarls]

We're in big trouble right now with the injuries and the s***** performances. I'm not sure what the right direction is but they better decide quickly.

 

Agree

 

The ass is falling out of 'er pretty quickly

[BlueJaysGirl]

Love the term "hose" and that you know what it means.

 

Like any baseball fan, I like a good, strong hose.

[Candy Maldonado]

Gose was doing nothing. That's why he was sent down.

[sh3156]

Gose was doing nothing. That's why he was sent down.

As oppose to having mastro n gillispe do nothing

 

Goes should Just play against lhp and bunt 60-70% of the time

[Mikeleelop]

As oppose to having mastro n gillispe do nothing

 

Goes should Just play against lhp and bunt 60-70% of the time

 

except he's shown that he is not a competent bunter

[sh3156]

except he's shown that he is not a competent bunter

 

No time like the present to learn.

 

I still blame lawrie the retard for batting the way he does. This guy is going to have a career of 90-100 games seasons

[shortstop]

xv, to be somewhat fair to AA, who would've thought the rash of injuries/guys playing hurt would've happened as it has since early June...

 

on the other hand, with his players down/hurt, AA has still stood by & done nothing...

 

assuming of course AA can do manoever to do something...Rogers may be cutting off Beeston/AA since their intention is to get rid of them or at least Beeston...

[BlueJaysGirl]

xv, to be somewhat fair to AA, who would've thought the rash of injuries/guys playing hurt would've happened as it has since early June...

 

on the other hand, with his players down/hurt, AA has still stood by & done nothing...

 

assuming of course AA can do manoever to do something...Rogers may be cutting off Beeston/AA since their intention is to get rid of them or at least Beeston...

 

The last two injury-riddled seasons have taught this org nothing. They are still deer caught in headlights.

 

If Rogers is handcuffing salary increases through trades, then they should sell the team to an ownership group with flexibility. If it's AA taking too much time ruminating over possible deals, and I mean just trading for Prado or Beckham, nothing flashy, then he needs to go. This team has glaring needs. The Braves wouldn't sit on their duff that's for sure. Eg, Santana.

 

Do you think it's possible AA is waiting for Uggla to be waived? Maybe he plans on grabbing him at league minimum.

[KingKat]

The last two injury-riddled seasons have taught this org nothing. They are still deer caught in headlights.

 

If Rogers is handcuffing salary increases through trades, then they should sell the team to an ownership group with flexibility. If it's AA taking too much time ruminating over possible deals, and I mean just trading for Prado or Beckham, nothing flashy, then he needs to go. This team has glaring needs. The Braves wouldn't sit on their duff that's for sure. Eg, Santana.

 

Do you think it's possible AA is waiting for Uggla to be waived? Maybe he plans on grabbing him at league minimum.

 

s*** if he's comfortable with a butcher like Uggla, he should just trade for Murply allready. At least Murphy is a butcher who can still hit.

[shortstop]

if it is a power struggle b/w Beeston/top dog(s) at Rogers, and I think some articles in the past from DJF have alluded to such, closing the taps is an old strategy...Beest/AA can't come out and say anything either or else it's more ammunition for Rogers...

 

or perhaps they all like each other (Rogers/Beest/AA) and the myth of the Chinese wall insulates everyone...

 

we need details and we ain't gonna get any until there's change...and that may not be for who knows how long...

[o2cui2i]

We are back to where we keep ending up. trying to play with no bench and no depth caught up to AA and it's a mess I dont think he can fix before the deadline without giving up the entire future.

[BlueJaysGirl]

s*** if he's comfortable with a butcher like Uggla, he should just trade for Murply allready. At least Murphy is a butcher who can still hit.

 

Uggla is an ugly option, but he's be a cheap, reclamation project. And you can't argue that's not the Jay's MO.

[comeon sense]

What about Dan Johnson?

He has good avg against lefties!

 

These moves would make things better than they are now,and make the fans feel like ,"Hey,at least they are trying something"

Right now,it looks like they are asking guys not capable of doing what needs to be done to get some kind of offense going.

[GeorgiaPeach]

We are back to where we keep ending up. trying to play with no bench and no depth caught up to AA and it's a mess I dont think he can fix before the deadline without giving up the entire future.

 

I hope the FO doesn't feel forced to make a move.