Omar Infante seeking 4 years 40M - Signs with KC Royals

[G-Snarls]

Per Heyman and Yankees source

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

Threadworthy because he's a logical target for us

[jaysblue]

Not worth it.

[Holden Caulfield]

If this is the amount of money it's going to take, I think it would be better allocated towards signing a starter and hoping we can trade for a 2B.

[Dylan]

If we can't get under 4 years, make the call to the mariners

[G-Snarls]

He turns 32 next week

 

10M for his years 32-25 seasons for a max 2 WAR player? Meh

[Chappy]

Give it to him. His 4-year WAR projection is in the 7-8 win range. That's a projected cost of like $4-6 million per win. And those wins are really f***ing valuable because they're replacing replacement-level talent for a team that may already be in the 85-87 win range.

 

Offer him 4/36 and I bet he signs.

[jaysblue]

Infante really hasn't been anything special and is now 32.

[jaysblue]

Just trade for Danny Espinosa already. Would cost nothing in a trade and won't make much through ARB.

[Dr. Dinger]

Barf. I'd rather have Phillips @ 4/$50. I like the defence better and trust the stick more going forward. Infante BABIPed his way to 3 WAR, which is more along the line of Phillips' floor (w BABIP regressed).

[Chappy]

I really don't understand why most of this forum would welcome Garza with open arms on a 4/60 deal but balk at 4/40 for Infante. Not only are they projected for very similar production, Garza would cost 50% more than Infante and his 2-3 wins would be replacing ~1-1.5 win talent in the rotation (Rogers, Happ, Stroman, Hutchison, Redmond etc...) while Infante's 2-3 wins would be replacing Goins and Izturis.

 

Infante at 4/40 is a no-brainer for me.

 

It's a logical move and one I have been preaching for months now. f*** AA just do it.

[Howard Roark]

I'd do 2/30 if we can't swing a good deal for Espinosa but that's it.

[Chappy]

Barf. I'd rather have Phillips @ 4/$50. I like the defence better and trust the stick more going forward. Infante BABIPed his way to 3 WAR, which is more along the line of Phillips' floor (w BABIP regressed).

 

But Phillips likely costs us Rasmus, since Cincy was asking for Gardener. Not to mention that Phillips would likely want to renegotiate his contract for more money if the rumours are true.

[jaysblue]

I really don't understand why most of this forum would welcome Garza with open arms on a 4/60 deal but balk at 4/40 for Infante. Not only are they projected for very similar production, Garza would cost 50% more than Infante and his 2-3 wins would be replacing ~1-1.5 win talent in the rotation (Rogers, Happ, Stroman, Hutchison, Redmond etc...) while Infante's 2-3 wins would be replacing Goins and Izturis.

 

Infante at 4/40 is a no-brainer for me.

 

Infante is not a 3 WAR player and he likely won't ever be one again. His BABIP was crazy high and he hardly get's on-base. He isn't anything special and he's definitely not a player I'd dish a 4 year contract out too.

[z3r0s]

If the Yankees did indeed offer 24/3, I'd probably be comfortable upping the offer. Something like 26-30/3 to get him closer to the AAV he wants or 32/4 if the 4th year is more important to him.

[jaysblue]

I'd do 2/30 if we can't swing a good deal for Espinosa but that's it.

 

For Infante? $15 million per season? Are you nuts?

[jaysblue]

If the Yankees did indeed offer 24/3, I'd probably be comfortable upping the offer. Something like 26-30/3 to get him closer to the AAV he wants or 32/4 if the 4th year is more important to him.

 

I think 3/$24 million is fair for him. I wouldn't go any higher for the type of player he is.

[G-Snarls]

[G-Snarls]

If the Yankees did indeed offer 24/3, I'd probably be comfortable upping the offer. Something like 26-30/3 to get him closer to the AAV he wants or 32/4 if the 4th year is more important to him.

 

Yep

 

Would love to see us outbid the Yankees and still get him for reasonable money

[Howard Roark]

For Infante? $15 million per season? Are you nuts?

 

I'd rather we overpay him for 2 years than 4. Those 2 or more extra wins from 2nd base are easily worth 15 mil a year for the next 2 seasons for a club stuck around 85.

 

Edit: if he'd do 2/25 then even better, but likely you have to blow him out of the water to get him to accept less than 3 yrs.

[Dr. Dinger]

But Phillips likely costs us Rasmus, since Cincy was asking for Gardener. Not to mention that Phillips would likely want to renegotiate his contract for more money if the rumours are true.

 

I think the market has established that they won't get anything close to Rasmus (Yanks rejected Gardner). That's a non-starter. Seems to me they just want to offload his salary at this point. I think Lind to PIT in a 3-way could work to get Phillips.

[Dylan]

I'd go up to 3 / $28.5m.. any more or longer i'd go another way.

[Dr. Dinger]

He's been a 2-3 win player for four years now, and both Steamer and Oliver have that continuing in 2014. He's at least an average 2B, probably a bit better. That is of immense value to this team right now. The absolute worst thing they can do is cheap out here and lose out on a 2-win upgrade for 2014.

 

I'd take him at like 3/$24M but that's about it. I don't think he has a leg to stand on to get 4/40.

[Dr. Dinger]

I think 3/$24 million is fair for him. I wouldn't go any higher for the type of player he is.

 

Didn't see this. Great minds think alike.

[G-Snarls]

I'd take him at like 3/$24M but that's about it. I don't think he has a leg to stand on to get 4/40.

 

Prado

[z3r0s]

I think 3/$24 million is fair for him. I wouldn't go any higher for the type of player he is.

 

If you think Infante is a 2-1.5 WAR player going forward than it shouldn't be hard to justify a bit more than 8M a year for him. I could see the term worrying people.

[Dr. Dinger]

Prado

 

Prado was coming off a 5.7 WAR season, how are they at all comparable? If anything, Prado is the nail in the coffin.

[Dr. Dinger]

Steamer has him at 2.2 fWAR and Oliver at 2.6. Split the difference, and you have a 2.4 win projection for 2014. At $7.5 million per win, that's $18 million in value in 2014 alone. A 3/24 deal would be a steal.

 

I think Phillips bounces back to about 3.5, FWIW.

[TwistedLogic]

Offer him 4/36 and I bet he signs.

 

He will sign for 4/32.

 

The Yankees offered him 8M AAV for 3 years, giving him a 4th will get it done. 4/40 is just the asking price the way Cano had a 310M asking price. Free agents never get what they ask for. That being said, I'd gladly give him 4/40.

 

And cut it with this Espinosa s***. I don't want to see us trade assets for a player that everyone will bitch about all f***ing year long when he doesn't produce.