G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Doubt he has much to say but just FYI
flafson Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He didn't really say much, he said most of the rumors about us are false and he's not going to give up established players.
Angrioter Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He didn't really say much, he said most of the rumors about us are false and he's not going to give up established players. But Sanchez, Stroman, Nolin and/or Osuna
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Author Posted July 19, 2013 Will have to listen to FAN 590 on demand I swear to God, if he doesn't trade a reliever or three I'm dumbfounded...
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Author Posted July 19, 2013 Talked some on Romero, Santos, Ricky to be called up soon?
Arkadium Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 I've seen enough of Ricky this year, personally.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 I've seen enough of Ricky this year, personally. most of us had seen enough of him in spring training.
GNick Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Ricky to be called up soon? Doesn't sound like it...said Romero was impressive in last start but AA wants to see few more of those starts. Happ had a good outing, meeting this afternoon to see where his next start will be. Morrow to start throwing soon. Santos impressive also but AA wants few more of those outings to see if he can go 2 innings or 2 games in row. Jays looking to add at deadline not subtract. Now for now, doesn't sound like he is moving prospects.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 From: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/anthopoulos-jays-not-looking-to-sell-veteran-players/ "I don’t see any scenario where we’d trade established players for a prospect at all.”
flafson Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He also said that we will probably be going 7 in the pen soon.
Arkadium Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He also said that we will probably be going 7 in the pen soon. It's almost like we don't have a choice. Santos will be ready soon, not to mention Lincoln deserves to be in the big leagues.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 From: http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/anthopoulos-jays-not-looking-to-sell-veteran-players/ "I don’t see any scenario where we’d trade established players for a prospect at all.” just cant get enough old farts or middle relief. lol
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Ugh, this guy is such a f***ing idiot. He is. You got to wonder if he doesn't care about the long term....
Chappy Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He is. You got to wonder if he doesn't care about the long term.... Why would he at this point? He went all in, all he should care about now is contending by next season, because anything short of that will cost him his job. Not that I agree with this, but what most of us would like to see and what he will actually do are probably worlds apart at this point.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 He is. You got to wonder if he doesn't care about the long term.... Probably because he won't be in his position long term...hopefully.
o2cui2i Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Why would he at this point? He went all in, all he should care about now is contending by next season, because anything short of that will cost him his job. Not that I agree with this, but what most of us would like to see and what he will actually do are probably worlds apart at this point. I still say it doens't matter if AA sees the team as sellers or buyers, the same people who put Bonifacio as the clincher on the Miami deal are making the talent assessments, so the team is screwed whatever they do.
Chappy Community Moderator Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Like, how can you just flat out reject the idea of moving Johnson, Janssen, Oliver, maybe Davis to re-stock the farm? Incompetence?
Arkadium Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 I feel like AA's Achilles' heel is that he doesn't truly understand the game of baseball - and a lot of that has to do with the fact that he never played it. This doesn't go for all GM's but AA in particular.
SAAviour Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Why don't we wait until August 1st before we hack AA's trade deadline job. Though I do admit, if we don't sell some pieces my first foot will be firmly off the AA bandwagon and it won't take much more to jump off completely. I actually think beeston is at fault for this mess. AA seems like a prospect whore to me and I'm sure he was given orders to go all in.
Captain Adama Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 I feel like AA's Achilles' heel is that he doesn't truly understand the game of baseball - and a lot of that has to do with the fact that he never played it. This doesn't go for all GM's but AA in particular. No, it seems AA is incapable of incorporating any sort of statistical data when looking for players, whether it be sabermetrics, aging curves, player values, prospect attrition rates etc... This is a more likely case as to why AA is not a very good GM.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 This board has no sense of the politics that are involved with being a GM. What GM's say in public and actually end up doing are two different things. Get a clue, people.
CHRIS Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Like, how can you just flat out reject the idea of moving Johnson, Janssen, Oliver, maybe Davis to re-stock the farm? It's not even about any kind of message being sent by trading veteran players, just basic numbers. With guys coming off of injuries, there's going to be a roster crunch and just not room to keep everybody.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 Why don't we wait until August 1st before we hack AA's trade deadline job. Though I do admit, if we don't sell some pieces my first foot will be firmly off the AA bandwagon and it won't take much more to jump off completely. I actually think beeston is at fault for this mess. AA seems like a prospect whore to me and I'm sure he was given orders to go all in. Not sure about that. Some of the comments made suggest that the prospects were just seen a future trade chips for the right time. Wish the team was run in a more rational manner, with a balance of highly paid core players, young controllable talent, and a pipeline of prospects ie. the Cardinals way.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 AA's problem is that he doesn't think at a very high level Come on bro, you don't know this. He could be MENSA for all we know
CHRIS Verified Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 That's basically where I stand. It doesn't even really bother me that they made those awful offseason trades, because at the end of the day the morons running this team would f*** things up colossally regardless. All that can save this organization right now is a regime change from Beeston down. To be honest, I don't even find the offseason deals all that awful. Inefficient to be sure, but not awful. The baffler is making those deals, and then handing JPA and Boni fulltime, unlose-able jobs, not having another SS on the 40, etc. In terms of regime change, they need to bring a guy like Tim Leiweke, whose pretty much first order of business was to pack up all the 1960s Leaf nostalgia and challenge the Leafs to build a new legacy. The best thing the Jays could do is basically burn down/fire anybody with any sentiment/connection to the "glory" years.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 To be honest, I don't even find the offseason deals all that awful. Dickey and Thole for Syndergaard, D'Arnaud, Buck, and Barreto(?) was not awful? Come on, I know you are better than that
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 I would find that very difficult to believe given his performance here. Being a MENSA means a mind that works at a high level, that's all. Doesn't necessarily mean success in the world of business Many MENSA live in basements Just taking issue with your conviction that AA's mind doesn't work at a high level
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 There's every reason to believe he means what he said. He f***ing bought at the deadline last year. He's such a terrible interview. He never divulges information and speaks in cliches. And it's not just him, a lot of GM's are like that. I don't think you can take anything they say without a grain of salt. Heck, in this very interview after he said he wouldn't trade any established players he also said, "unless a deal makes all the sense in the world."
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 19, 2013 Posted July 19, 2013 We still have Barreto, thank God. It was Bucerra. There's a real chance Syndergaard will be better than Dickey as soon as next year. I won't ever be able to watch Syndergaard pitch, EVER
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