Eat My Shatkins

....yeah and there are better ways to add to the SP depth than trading for it and weakening the IF depth. That's the point. Why trade Clement for SP depth when he's a big part of what the Jays do when they can just sign it in free agency or trade from the prospect pool to acquire it?

In my scenario the reason would be to add prospects from the Jays system that they like. And Berrios contract isn't that bad if the Jays eat some of it and he gives them 170 or so innings and 1.5 to 2.0 fWAR

He's a dump dude. Hence why the Jays would have to eat some of the contract. They do it for the prospects they'd be adding. But even as a "dump" Berrios is still a useful mid to back of rotation starter who can chew up the innings Alcantara would have, and he's still projected for 1.6 fWAR. (Alcantara projected 2.5 fWAR) Jays would giving up the prospect capital to gain the upside a guy like Alcantara has if he regains his pre TJS form.

I wouldn't mind seeing the Jays build a trade around Berrios for Alcantara. Jays could eat some money and add in prospects. Still go out and try to add Cease or Imai as well. 1. Gausman 2. Bieber 3. Yesavage 4. Cease / Imai 5. Alcantara Has potential to be the best rotation the Jays have ever had.

I'm hoping so. They'll be a good team even if they don't, but it'd be fun to load up like for at least one season.

I can't speak to Laika's plan, but my plan would be to keep the 94 win team that went to the world series as in tact as possible and add to it via free agency.

If they can't get Bo or Tucker I'd just go with option 5. SS Giminez 2B Clement 3B Barger Plus Schneider (2B), Jiminez and Kasevich as MIF depth. Then load up on pitching if possible.

Hopefully he didn't show up because his teammates and manager all got snubbed on awards they clearly should have won. Schneider should have won manager of the year. Springer should have won come back player of the year. Kirk and Clement should have won GG's.

Tucker AND Bo would be even more incredible, but they'd either have to leave the rotation as it is or go over the highest threshold to add to it. DH - Springer (R) RF - Tucker (L) 1B - Vladdy (R) 2B - Bo (R) LF - Santander (S) C - Kirk (R) 3B - Barger (L) CF - Varsho (L) SS - Giminez (L) Bench - Heineman, Lukes, Clement, Schneider That offense would be unreal good. OF defense takes a hit but the bench would help.

Gotta love gruber. Always riding the short bus around the forum and having his little temper tantrums. Imagine being a fan of one of the winningest teams in MLB the last 5 years (0.543 win percentage) with 4 of 6 playoff appearances, just coming off a dismantling of the mighty Yankees, a thrilling 7 game series win over Seattle avenging 2022, a World series appearance and still running around here complaining while eating cookies off his shoulder. lol Whatever floats your boat fella

Hahaha One of the SEVEN playoff spots available hey meathead? SEVEN? You are so good at outing yourself as a completely clueless donkey.

Santander costs $14 million towards the luxury tax pay roll. Dumping him when his value is at it's lowest makes no sense. I highly doubt his contract is holding the Jays back from signing anyone.

That sucks. Now that I know Varsho is a Boras client, I doubt any extension gets done.

As has been mentioned many times over the years, meathead, there is a lot of luck involved in playoff runs. Baseball is all about large sample sizes, the playoffs are a small sample size. The job of a GM is to build a sustainable winning team that make the playoffs regularly so that they have more chances at having everything clicking at the right time. Since Boss Atkins rebuilt the mess he inherited from AA, they Jays have been winning at a .543 clip for half a decade now. The best stretch in franchise history. They've also made the post season 4 times in 6 years. And as you would expect, it was only a matter of time for playoff success to follow. Keep in mind, they've been having all this success while being in the toughest division in baseball, where teams like Boston and New York also spend big money. You should be smooching Boss Atkins feet, not questioning him, after the team he built just had the best season in over 3 decades and came within an inch of winning the whole ball of wax.

I think they'll get something done. He obviously really likes it with the Jays org, and they have clearly made it a priority to solidify defense through the middle of the diamond. Get him locked in and you are set for a few years with Kirk, Giminez and Varsho down the middle with elite defense. He also unlocked some power and if he is really a 120 wRC+ bat it's not a guy you want to let go. Even with a league average bat he's a keeper at the right price.

No, post lots. Less criticism, more worshipping.

I think y'all should just know your role, sit back and let Boss Atkins cook. Clearly he knows what he's doing.

That's "Boss" to you.

So he's a scumbag piece of trash whatever way you slice it then. Good riddance.

Pretty exciting coming off that run knowing you already have (what looks like) a very good team coming back, but there is money to spend to make it even better, AND because of the recent success and Blue Jays nation being in the spotlight in a positive way, there is a very good chance the Jays will be able to actually land some difference makers this off season.

Is Imai going to get a similar contract to Yamamoto? Or is he going to come in cheaper? Is he comparable to Yamamoto talent wise?

Welp, I guess it's time to spend $350 million and build a super team then.

Jays have a lot of money coming off the books next off season. Like roughly $90 million with Bieber, Gausman, Springer, Varsho, Yimi, Straw and Lauer. I can see a scenario where they go above the highest LTT of $304 million for one year. Bring back Bo, and then build a stacked rotation and bullpen. Bo 7x189 / Cease 5x130 / Suarez 2x30 / Seranthony 2x16 DH - Springer (R) RF - Barger (L) 1B - Vladdy (R) 2B - Bo (R) LF - Santander (S) C - Kirk (R) CF - Varsho (L) 3B - Clement (R) SS - Giminez (L) Bench - (C) Heineman / (OF) Lukes / (OF) Straw / (UT) Schneider SP1 - Gausman SP2 - Cease SP3 - Bieber SP4 - Yesavage SP5 - Berrios CL - Suarez SU8 - Hoffman SU7 - Garcia MR - Varland MR - Dominguez MR - Fluharty MR - Little LR - Lauer There is also Fisher, Sandlin, Rodriguez, Francis, Bastardo, etc to build from. Just run with with the performers. About $323,000,000 I think, all in with about $90 million coming off after 2026.

Agreed, I don't see it happening either. But like I said, the team is really good right now as is. If they spend $50 million more it will be really good. If I have to pick, I go with Bo and a good starter. Cease, Imai, Suarez would be my picks in that order.

Yeah, I agree with Jonn. I don't like the rules of this game based on the limited budget. They have something brewing with this team, and should continue to increase payroll to try and get over the top. Our pitching was so MID last season, rotation and bullpen. It was OK, but not great. Just steady eddy I guess. They still won 94 games despite a slow start and being in the toughest division in MLB. I think this team as it stands right now is good enough to push for a 5th playoff appearance in 7 years, The whole position player roster is returning except for Bo, and the entire bullpen except for Dominguez. Plus, they've already upgraded the rotation from what it was last season just by having Bieber and Yesavage for the whole year if they stay healthy. If they just stood pat they're very competitive most likely. But they should go for broke. 1. They should be matching the best offer Bo sees and bring him back, preferably as the 2B. If he gets his big pay day I doubt he'd have an issue with that. 2. Stack the rotation. One more quality starter like Cease or Suarez would be huge, but if they could land two of them they'd be ridiculously deep, much deeper than the 94 win team in 2025. 3. Pay up for a high end closer. I don't like dumping huge money into the pen, too much volatility. But it's worth the risk if it can be afforded by Rogers, which after the latest run I'm sure they can manage it. So you'd basically have last years position player roster, with a stacked and much improved rotation, and the same pen but now a potentially better closer option and also a full year of Varland as well as Yimi if he's healthy again. Likely see a 95-100 win season.