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Yeah, Pinango was not selected. Good call by the Jays leaving him unprotected.
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JP Ricciardi Jays vs Mike Elias Orioles in a "white off" would be an interesting comparison. I don't think it's possible to get whiter than JPR, but the Orioles are probably close.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Bellinger goes to the Mets now.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Tucker on a short term deal with the Dodgers unfortunately makes a lot of sense for him. I’ve said before I don’t think his market realistically involves that many teams, especially now with the Phillies presumably out and the Yankees focusing on Bellinger or cheaper alternatives. If he doesn’t have big market teams driving up the price on longer term deals, then a short term deal on a higher AAV is probably the smartest way to maximize his dollars. MLB players usually prefer more years so curious to see what direction he goes in, but I think the Dodgers might be a real possibility for him now. -
Sounds like the Orioles had the same offer to Schwarber as the Phillies. Maybe they could be a suitor for Tucker.
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Diaz is 3 years younger than Suarez with a better track record and got 3 years. Wonder what Suarez's market will look like now. Also Schwarber's deal takes the Phillies out of the Tucker sweepstakes most likely. The Yankees are counting pennies, and the Dodgers apparently only want in if the deal is shorter term/higher AAV. The Mets need an OF but Stearns while having unlimited financial resources wants to be the smartest guy in the room (Soto was a Cohen signing), so not sure he's going to give out a massive deal for Tucker. The Red Sox are trying to trade an OF. I'm not sure where Tucker's market other than the Jays is going to come from.
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It's 3/69 for Diaz according to Passan. That's not bad as far as term is considered. Three years is nothing. Not sure why the Mets couldn't have beaten that, especially since that's their own FA.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Bieber got TJS in April 2024, so by the time he started his first game with the Jays, it was 16 months post surgery (and he started pitching much sooner than that in rehab games in the minors). The fact that the Jays got what they got out of him is actually very good fortune. I think/hope he will be fine by Opening Day, but it does make sense to have an extra SP just in case, even if they end up moving Berrios. -
Sounds like he already cleared waivers so likely no trade on the way. Basically what Straw was with the Guardians: off the 40 man but still in the org. If he can pitch in Buffalo in 2026 then that wouldn’t be a terrible scenario. Could always add him back if he figures something out.
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Wow that's surprising about Yariel. Hopefully someone trades for him and the Jays aren't on the hook for the rest of his money. It's not that much but could save some bullets for bigger signings. Either way, I like that the FO isn't letting money dictate decision making. They didn't think Yariel was worthy of a bullpen/40 man spot, and they cut bait.
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Yeah Berrios has an $18.7M CBT hit for the Jays as long as he's with the team (even in 2027-28 when he's making $24-25M annually, he will count as $18.7M in the calculations), but that changes if he's traded based on what's left on the contract. The only thing I'm unclear on is how player options work in the calculation if he's traded. I'm assuming they are counted as guaranteed years, but they technically aren't guaranteed years since an option is involved. Does Berrios count as a $22M tax hit for the new team (18-24-24) regardless of what happens with the options, or $18M in 2026 and $24M in 2027-28 when options are picked up? I'm guessing it's $22M regardless, which does make him a bit less appealing for teams who are carefully looking at the CBT money.
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I don’t think it will happen but if the Jays did sign both Bo and Tucker, then what does the lineup look like? Obvious answer is Barger at 3B and Tucker/Tony in the corners, but I’m pretty sure JS would take a bullet to the chest before he benches Clement, so there would be a log jam there.
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It’s not a “love affair” with Bassitt (with me at least, can’t speak for anyone else), it’s a way to trade Berrios without impacting SP depth. Replace Bassitt in my scenario with anyone who could conceivably be a ~2 WAR depth SP with positional flexibility (SP/RP) and the same applies. Find 2015 Marco Estrada somewhere. Removing Berrios is more about his ego and the clunky roster fit (not factoring contract). Having six big league SPs is actually a good idea that I am warming up to even if it causes a glut, especially since we don’t know what we’re getting with Ponce, and Lauer is a big regression candidate.
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Yeah Murray is behind Passan for me as far as credibility, so at least we know this meeting is legit. Whether it goes anywhere remains to be seen.
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Berrios is guaranteed 3/66 if he opts in (could be 3/68 if he reaches innings thresholds next season). Eating half of that money puts him at 3/33, which is probably closer to the type of value he would have if he were a FA right now. It's probably doable in that scenario. Just a matter of how much money the Jays are willing to cover. I kinda like the idea of trading Berrios and using the money saved on Bassitt. In that scenario the Jays would maintain their SP depth but with someone who doesn't look washed and who is willing to pitch out of the pen (effectively) if a need arises. I guess it depends on how much money the Jays actually have to spend this winter.
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Interesting note from MLBTR: "Berrios ended the 2025 season with 9.044 years of major league service time. That places him 128 days shy of 10 years. With MLB Opening Day set for March 25 and the trade deadline set to fall on Friday, July 31, Berrios would reach 10 years of service the day before next summer’s deadline." I can't imagine teams will be asking about Berrios' availability after this season with him owed $24-25M a year in 2027 and 2028, but the Jays wouldn't even be able to 'bad contract swap' him after this season's trade deadline without his consent. Probably more reason to move on now.
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I thought Barger passed the eye test at 3B. Not so much in RF (other than the arm, obviously). I agree though that not having him play one position regularly may have hurt him. I think it's crazy to consider him in RF if he's average-ish at 3B. Finding a competent 3B that can hit is not easy. They were playing him in RF so that IKF could play 2B in the playoffs (just typing that sentence hurt me) so maybe they've already decided that he's a RF in their eyes.
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If they re-sign Bo, and the OF corners are Santander and Barger, then that’s pretty bad defensively. Maybe they do go that route and strategically make defensive subs late in games (although doing that probably cost them the WS looking at games 3 and 7) but a team that values defense as heavily as the Jays would have to make some concessions to their thought process to go with that alignment. They literally started IKF at 2B in World Series because they valued whatever incremental defensive improvement it provided over starting DS. Will be interesting to see what they do. Barger at 3B and a new OF (Tucker) probably makes more sense.
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If the Jays thought Straw’s contract was worth absorbing at $11M over 2 years (even if it was at least partially for Sasaki) a year ago when he looked like he’d never see the Majors again, then he probably looks like surplus value to them now after how he performed in 2025. I don’t think he’s traded. I wouldn’t be shocked if he turns into a pumpkin again in 2026, though. My guess is that, if money becomes an issue, then they’ll try to move Rodriguez and possibly Santander in addition to Berrios. As I said before I really don’t see how Tony fits on this roster anymore if the DH spot is going to go to Springer. The Jays value defense more than any team in the league.
