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Cease has been durable and the Jays obviously value that and are willing to pay more for that. What he commands on the market will be interesting. I think I’d prefer Imai for the age/upside factor but an impact Japanese player signing with the Jays is not something I’d want to bank on. Cease is more of a sure thing, and might be easier to convince to sign.
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Toronto Blue Jays Targeting High-Leverage Relievers
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
According to Rosenthal, the Jays met with Edwin Diaz's agent during the GM meetings. It was categorized as not a "major development" and simply expressing interest in a good player. For some reason, I think this has a real chance of happening. The Jays got to the World Series and were 2 outs away from winning it with arguably the worst closer in the league (at least from May-onwards). They have the combination of need, money, and desperation that I don't think any other team in the league has as far as the closer position. They know they can't go back to Hoffman, and no one else internally can fill that spot. Whether they'd want to lose a pick and give up ~$100M for a closer is the question. Typically I'd say no, but after how Game 7 ended, who knows. Also depends on how much money they have to spend. -
I mean, if the Jays somehow signed both Bo and Tucker, and wanted to trade Santander to free up a roster spot, then I could see the logic behind it, but trading him just to dump him seems a little hasty to me. As mentioned his luxury tax hit is minimal, and there's very real 2 WAR/30 HR bounce back potential next season. He is a one trick pony but that one trick when done at the level he's done it in the past is very valuable.
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If Varsho is a Boras client, then he's heading to free agency, so this whole discussion is pointless. This is the first I've heard of him being a Boras guy though.
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I don’t know, they started him in playoff/World Series games, and there was a point where they used him as a pinch hitter (against a LHP who he sucks against) in place of Barger who they had batting cleanup that night. Love is the scariest emotion because sometimes logic doesn’t compute when the love is strong. I hope we have seen the end of IKF in Toronto but I’m terrified that we haven’t. Dude sounded like he’d play in Toronto for free. I want to live in a world where the Pirates never release IKF in September and he just finishes the year out with them. I’m not going to guess or assume what would have happened in that scenario, all I know is it’s a world I would have preferred living in.
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Honestly one of my fears this off season is the Jays bringing IKF back to be a utility IF in 2026. I hope and pray that they love Leo Jimenez and they just plug him into that spot. Two months of IKF this past Sept/Oct felt like a lifetime. I can't do a full season.
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Toronto Blue Jays Targeting High-Leverage Relievers
glory replied to Matthew Lenz's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The Jays need to get this one right if getting a closer is on their wish list. As 2025 showed, John Schneider will live or die with whoever the 9th inning guy is regardless of actual results. They need someone with a good shot at being lights out, which isn't easy given how volatile relievers are. If the Jays are spending FU money this winter (remains to be seen), then wouldn't shock me if they went with Diaz, or maybe more likely Suarez. My guess is Williams will be a Dodgers "buy low". -
Yeah I'd be a little nervous on a longer term deal. If it's like 2026 and 3 more years after that, then fine, but if it's a 5-6 year deal, then it would definitely be risky given his profile and the fact that defense in a player's 30's is very likely to fall off. A current minor leaguer developing into a 2027 CF option would be great, but not sure that exists in the current system.
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Boras represents Imai, Cease, and Suarez. I think there’s a good chance the Jays end up with one of them.
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Imai will be posted on November 19 according to Boras. So the latest he can sign is 45 days later (January 3rd, I guess). Boras likes to wait out the market but hopefully this signing happens relatively quickly, otherwise it will be a month and a half of "no pitcher is signing until Imai does".
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Yeah I’d trade top prospects for Tatis without hesitating. I just don’t see a fit as the Padres would almost certainly prefer big league players coming back and the Jays don’t really have any expendable ones that the Padres would want. Barger wouldn’t be enough as a centerpiece. Byron Buxton is potentially available as well now (he’s apparently willing to waive his NTC if the Twins keep tanking). Probably not the best fit for the Jays since he’d likely need to DH a bit to keep him healthy but an impact bat with a $15M CBT hit and the ability to play CF is very attractive.
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I'm not a big JS fan by any means, but he was robbed on this one.
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Imai + one of Tucker/Bo would be amazing. One benefit of Imai + Bo would be no loss of draft pick compensation. Although I'm not getting my hopes up on Imai or any top level Japanese player signing with the Jays until it actually happens. Bo or Tucker seems far more plausible. Hopefully Boss Atkins can work some magic with Imai. The double benefit of adding upside to the rotation and possibly creating a pipeline for more Japanese talent in the future.
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I'd choose Tucker over Bo all things being equal, but there could be a significant ($100M+) difference in what they command on the market, so that has to be figured into the equation. The team's biggest need is a high end SP. As long as signing one of Tucker/Bo doesn't prevent them from shopping in the top end of the SP market, then either one is fine. Whatever makes more sense from a money/years standpoint. Tucker would be a perfect add to the lineup, though. A LHB who draws walks, puts in the ball in play, has good power, and is a very good base runner. Ideal fit for the #2 spot in the lineup, and it would allow Barger to play 3B regularly, which is probably a better value play for the Jays. Finding an OF is a lot easier than finding a 3B, and Clement isn't someone I'd pencil in as a long-term 3B.
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Yeah I'm in the same boat. I'm conflicted on Bo because I don't think his batting profile is going to age well (high BABIP, low walk rates) and he was slower than Vlad in sprint speed prior to his injury (and he's had a bunch of lower body injuries recently). With that said, the Jays need a short-term impact bat to take advantage of this competitive cycle, and Bo might be the most realistic one they can get. I wouldn't be terribly upset if another team overpaid him and the Jays moved on to someone else, but could certainly understand bringing him back at a reasonable price point. I'd go with Imai + Bo as well. Or Imai + sign/trade for Bo's replacement, whichever one is the more reasonable path (ex. if Bo wants $250M then maybe look towards a trade or another avenue in free agency). After Bieber picked up his option, I think Imai is even more appealing since the Jays can take a bit of a risk now on upside with some certainty added to the rotation.
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Another benefit might (stressing the word "might") be that the Dodgers have so many SP's, especially on big money deals, that they may not be as involved in this one. Of course the Dodgers don't care about money, so if they wanted a 7th or 8th starter on the roster making $20-25M a year, then they could certainly afford it. If the Dodgers are not as involved, and Boras advises him to take the best deal, then the Jays certainly have a shot if they are interested/willing to overpay. My guess is they end up with one of the MLB SP FA's though (Suarez, Cease, King, etc).
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Sounds like Imai is going to be posted and hired Boras as his agent. I’m not sure how likely it is that the Jays sign him but strangely Boras being involved might help the Jays chances (highest bidder vs location). Of course he might already be a Dodger regardless.
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Know nothing about this guy but reading about him makes him sound like the least likely Jays target out there.
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Yeah forgot about Varsho but great defense and baserunning from a CF can compensate for that. The one non-D player they have signed in the last 2-3 years is Santander whose K rate in his last 3000 PA before 2025 was 20%. They were playing IKF over DS in the playoffs almost certainly for the difference in contact ability. I read on X (don't know if it's true) that Murakami has trouble with fastballs too. I'm sure Morosi will be linking him to the Jays within the next 48 hours, but I doubt he's even on their radar.
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I know nothing about Murakami but "swing and miss" makes me think the Jays won't be in on him. I can't think of a single player Atkins has acquired in years that had issues with swing and miss. Maybe they'll make an exception here, I have no idea, but my guess is they go after Imai more so than Murakami.
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5/130 seems light, but I think the 2026-27 lockout coming up is going to have an impact on the dollars thrown around in the market. What we assume based on recent trends and what actually happens might be two entirely different things. Bo not being able to get $200M in this market wouldn't shock me at all. At least half of the teams will act like they are homeless this winter so that they have ammo to demand a salary cap next winter. The Jays have the opportunity to take advantage of that (as they did with Springer after the Covid year where teams weren't spending) but the prices may not be as high as people assume. I guess it depends on the first domino. Bo not being a Boras guy probably increases the chances of him signing for a "less than expected" contract. If he was a Boras guy then he'd probably be unsigned until February 25th.
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I second the notion that Donnie should go back to the Yankees and work exclusively with their hitters. He deserves it.
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I’ve learned to never read too much into an Atkins interview but him being noncommittal about Hoffman as the closer is (hopefully) good news. If Hoff wants to have Chad Green’s home run rate then let him give up dingers to backup infielders in the 7th inning rather than in the biggest moments. With that said, Hoffman himself is a good example of how risky investing heavily into the bullpen can be. If they do decide to sign a closer then I hope they guess right this time.
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I didn't listen to the podcast, but I've had this concern about Bo for a while. I don't think he's a good long term investment. Moving to 2B and extracting a bit more defensive value will help him as he ages, but the offensive profile seems very dangerous to bank on for 5 more years, much less 7 or 8. Unfortunately there isn't really much in terms of other options in free agency. Bellinger comes with his own flaws, Schwarber is a DH (the Jays have 2 of them already), and Tucker is going to be very expensive with other big market teams in on him. It does seem like it will be Bo or bust in free agency. My guess is they'll look at the trade market if Bichette leaves.
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I’m sure there’s some buyer’s remorse with the Santander signing but I doubt they will look to dump him. There’s a real chance for a bounce back season if he’s healthy next season. It should help compensate for whatever decline Springer sees with the bat. The Jays will definitely add a controllable SP now with the lack of controllable SPs on the team. Bieber adds a bit more stability to the rotation in 2026 so maybe that makes a high upside play (Imai, Woodruff, King) something they consider over a high floor (Suarez).
