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They seem like a better fit for Chapman than Bellinger at this point but looks like they are still in on Bellinger based on some stuff I’m reading online. They have a lot of OFs but all of them except Haniger should be tradable so they could make it work. More teams in on Belly, the better.
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With the Giants signing Lee to a big contract, I doubt they'd still be in on Bellinger. That leaves the Jays and the Cubs. I can't think of any other team with the resources to get it done that would be interested in Belly at this point. Maybe the Rockies swoop in for some reason. Not sure what Chapman's market is at this point. Third base is still a need for the Giants so I could see them going after him, but beyond them and the Jays, it gets a bit blurry.
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The Giants have signed Jung Hoo Lee according to Heyman for 6/113 with an opt out after 4.
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I never thought I’d root for the Yankees or Mets to sign a top starter but I’d rather one of them gets Yamamoto (I’m assuming the Jays won’t) instead of the Dodgers. I think he ends up in LA now though.
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Doesn't look like MLB can do anything. This is definitely going to start a trend, especially with teams hovering around the luxury tax. Between this and the RSN troubles most teams are having, especially the smaller markets, I don't see this ending well in a few years when the CBA is up.
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Yeah this shouldn't be allowed.
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While Hoskins (at DH, not 3B) would be a fit, it sounded like Boras was going to try to do the 1+1 deal for him where he has a player opt out in year 2. Not sure I'd want to do that for a 1B coming off a torn ACL. If it's a straight 1 year deal, then that makes more sense for the team. If I had to guess, I'm expecting the Jays to finally get Michael Brantley. A few years too late, but maybe there's a dead cat bounce back there. JDM would also make sense but he seems to have more of a market.
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Adames and Burnes are options, though both would be rentals, and Adames would have to play 3B here, which I'm not sure is the best use for him given how great he is defensively at SS. I don't expect it to happen but trading Bichette for a bunch of pieces and then trading what shouldn't be that much for Adames would be a slick use of assets. I would imagine it would cost a lot less to extend Adames than it will to extend Bo, so there might be an opportunity there to pivot off Bo without losing much in terms of short and long term WAR/value. Probably not the best PR move to trade Bo right now, though. Beyond that not sure what could come from poaching guys with salaries on other teams. Maybe Max Kepler from Minnesota? Though his cost is pretty reasonable for 2024. I guess I just don't want to see Bellinger or Chapman signed. Anything else and I'll probably learn to live with it.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Ramirez would have been a FA this winter had he not extended with the Guardians. Instead he signed a $141m extension two years ago to stay in Cleveland. Not sure he'd agree to a trade with his NTC. Dude took a 9 figure discount to stay there. My guess is they will move guys like Clase, Bieber, and Naylor before they even approach Ramirez, but obviously if there was a way to get Ramirez somehow, then don't hesitate. Take Straw's contract and anything else to lessen their financial tension. Either way I expect them to keep Ramirez, and I don't expect him to accept a trade anyway, so probably wishful thinking. -
I think Cleveland, Texas (not likely to dump salary though), and Milwaukee are among the others but not exactly sure of the entire list.
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Yeah Bo on a long term expensive FA deal is scary due to his profile. Use him for the 6 years of control in his prime and then let someone else deal with the overpay. I still think Vlad will get extended at some point, especially now with the Ohtani thing not panning out. When it happens and for how long/much is still TBD. I think trying to take advantage of the teams dumping salary due to the RSN issues might be the Jays best bet for 2024. Take on as much (reasonable) salary as possible to lessen the return going the other way. I don’t think they should buy high on Cody or bring back Chapman just because they have money to spend in a weak FA class. Although I can see why they’d prefer free agency as the Jays do need to get more help from the farm so it would be better to avoid trading anyone of significance.
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General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
Man, I’m not looking forward to having to post overly positive things about Cody Bellinger on a 7 year deal just because I’m trying to convince myself that it will work out. Please don’t force me to, Ross. -
General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)
glory replied to Ryu In My House's topic in Toronto Blue Jays Talk
The Jays couldn't beat the Dodgers in a bidding war, so I don't think they'll beat Cohen either (for Yamamoto). I honestly have no clue what the Jays can do at this point. I want no part of Bellinger or Chapman, but they'll probably end up signing one of them. -
Well good news is the off season can finally begin now. Two months without any significant moves was boring as hell. But man, I feel for Atkins because literally anything he does now will be seen as inferior. Although if it’s Chapman or Bellinger, then fans would have a right to be upset.
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10 years, $700 million, per Passan. Holy s***.
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Ohtani to the Dodgers. Passan confirms. Kick to the dick of Jays fans, also confirmed.
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It's likely that Boras and/or Harper realize they should have included an opt out in there, so extending the current deal is their only option. I don't blame them, if any GM would do it, it's probably Dombrowski, so shoot your shot.
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Shi not mentioning Morosi in his piece (based on what has been said here, I didn't read it) is absolutely spineless on his part. I've said for years that Morosi is a clickbait hack but for whatever reason whenever he tweets something, every MLB social media account runs with it. He had "credibility" entirely because publications validated him. If Morosi doesn't tweet that, then the hoopla likely would have been a lot less chaotic, and would have been mostly on the Dodger guy and TL/Nope's stalker-esque conspiracy theory. Morosi lit the fire big time, so for Davidi to not mention him at all because of their working relationship but mentioning the Dodger source makes Shi look bad.
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I wonder how the dude from Shark Tank felt when he got off the plane.
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The sad thing is, I actually think Morosi’s source might have been the Reddit thread.
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Now we know how the Giants fans felt last year after being Arson Judge’d. Whatever optimism I had for Ohtani signing here has gone, and I blame myself because against my better judgment I got excited based off a Morosi tweet, and I should have known better.
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Morosi's downfall would make up, slightly, for Ohtani choosing the Dodgers over the Jays. But man this better not end up being a giant kick to the balls.
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If Nightengale is right, then Morosi better be cancelled. He should have been cancelled a long time ago, but this should be credibility destroying if true.
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Ohtani playing in LA where no one in the East coast wants to stay up and watch the games wouldn't be good for baseball either. The best thing for baseball would have been Ohtani going to the Yankees. With that not in play, I don't think it matters ultimately. If anything, Ohtani in the East coast playing the Yankees, Red Sox, etc, a lot more is going to get more eye balls on him. It's up to Fox, ESPN, TBS, etc, to determine whether they want to air those games nationally.