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Not that this should factor in the decision but Hutch would be a pretty solid guy to have pitch in the home opener, certainly more exciting than Happ or Redmond.

I emailed TorontoFan.

I probably just wasted a pick but I went with Daniel Hudson.

A little from column A...

Because they wanted to steal the narrative back from John Farrell (I figure).

They did and as far as we know, AA just went along (that's how it's told in Great Expectations). Whether the Mets would have agreed to Sanchez had AA come back with him is something we'll probably never know. We certainly all wish he had.

I don't really see it that way. I saw the lol as laughing at the poster and his dumb post rather than laughing with him but I guess that's open to interpretation.

Back when the Jays traded for Happ, Jon Hale identified a possible issue with curveball overuse and that the Jays might have traded for him with the intention of fixing it. http://bjays.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/new-blue-jay-j-a-happ-is-overusing-his-curveball/ I can see the reasoning for acquiring Happ. The bigger problem was that with his arb eligibility he wasn't quite cheap enough to be an attractive project. You can find pitchers you want to fix for cheaper. That being said, since he's here, I have no real issue with him being a top candidate for the rotation. Before spring training, I would have went Happ/Redmond on paper. Now that Hutch looks like he might be all the way back from his injury and Happ doesn't look sharp at all while Redmond does, Hutch/Redmond seems like the obvious configuration but it's still early. The more pitchers pitch well the better so despite what Gruber92 says, we really should be rooting for Happ to do well. If nothing else it increases his trade value.

"Is there a chance both Drew Hutchison and Marcus Stroman could open the season in the Jays rotation behind R.A. Dickey, Brandon Morrow and Mark Buehrle?Yep. There’s a chance." Well that's nice but that quote isn't attributed to anyone. This is Elliott acting like he has news when he really doesn't. He saw what everybody else saw, Happ was awful and he infers from it that the 4th spot is open.

Yes but that just means they had more revenue not necessarily more profit which was Hurl's point.

Don't forgot the Bat signal. He loves that.

No I'm not. I'm just pointing out that it's hypocritical for you to say that someone isn't a true fan unless they root for Goins while you actively root against Happ. You may find it insulting that I call you a hypocrite but I don't see how you can say that it isn't accurate.

Insults. Nice. If someone were rooting against Goins because they feel it would force AA to find a better option would that be any different than you rooting against Happ because it would force AA to use someone else. The fact that we're discussing internal options versus external options doesn't make you any less of a hypocrite. You're also rude.

That's exactly what I'm saying. The negativity IS adressed at AA. You're the one who is misinterpreting it.

Man, I don't care if "all" the Angels have is Mike Trout. He's worth more than the combined value of many entire lists. The Angels have to be top 10 even if everyone else is garbabe.

I'm curious about the terms. Must be pretty reasonable for the team because the MRI will likely be worse than it was for the some of the players they bailed on.

I just called Gruber92 out in the Game Day thread for rooting against Happ. Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.

If someone said the same about Goins, you would acuse them of being negative anti-fans who root against the team's own player. If you feel comfortable rooting against player's you don't like and don't think can contribute maybe you should park the self-righteousness.

I don't recall Gose's fielding ever been questioned.

I guess I'm just going to have to explain this you for the milionth time... The negativity has to do with the player being miscast. He could acually be a valubable asset as a player with options who provides good middle infield defense. There are reasons to like Goins but not liking the fact that he is at the top of the depth chart at 2B is warranted and is no some kind of personal vendetta against the player no matter how many times you try to make it seem that way. This is your constant fallback, saying that people have an irrational hatred for the guy. No one actually does. What people hate is a bad idea. Just because you can imagine some scenario where Goins works out doesn't suddenly make it a good idea to start him.

I think the basic question is does Gose provide more value to another team than he does to the Jays because it's only in such scenario that he's likely to provide a return that surpases his value to the Jays (I say "likely" because bad trades do happen but if you expect to get more value in a trade from a team that needs him less, you're basically just counting to be on the good side of a bad trade). When you're trying to consider which team would benefit from acquiring Gose, that would be a team that could use Gose's skills in the short term and would benefit from him in the long term in an expended role should he show some kind of progression because there's an OF need down the road. That pretty much describes the Jays to a "T". They can use him as a 4th OF and as it stands he's hypothetically first on the CF depth chart for 2015. As it stands, no one is likely to have more use for Gose than the Jays but that would change if the Jays commit to Rasmus. If Rasmus is your CF long term and Gose is only going to be a backup for the foreseeable future than I think you try to trade him to another team with a thin OF depth chart and more of a long term CF need and just go year to year with veteran 4th OF types. The Mariners are a good fit for Gose but they don't seem to value defense anymore so they're probably a waste of time. It's too bad becasuse a CF for 2B trade with them would make some sense. Even without a Rasmus extension, it would be at worse a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul, shifting depth around in the short term and trading one long term hole for another. Otherwise, I think only the Mets might have the kind of OF depth issues that would make Gose attractive.

He's basically Adam Lind without power. He has no defensive value, probably should only be used in a platoon if at all. He might a better hitter than Dan Johnson or at least not a significantly worse one with maybe a tiny bit of upside but I'm not even convinced of that.

That raises a good point. This could potentially settle a lot of debates about the accuracy of different defensive metrics. This will probably determine which statistical approach comes closest to reality.

Not to defend Beaston or Cito but Alomar was a douche plain and simple. He held that mini strike midway through his last season where he stayed in his hotel room and missed a couple of games. No class.

Well he was a Baltimore Orioles at the time and that combined with his less than amicable departure made him persona non gratta around Toronto for awhile. That's been kind of lost to history.