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Posted
2 hours ago, Laika said:

Just go 20-10 from here and see what happens 

Decent chance that does it 

Don't care how you win 20. Lose the next ten games and the win the last 20, if you want

Yeah pretty much they have to do this. Going just .500 or like 16-14 or 17-13 probably won't be enough. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, james jones said:

This topic can be removed from now on. Bieber might be done for the season with another injury.

No more qualifying offer haha. 

Posted

Basically running three bullpen or replacement level SP slots 

And trying to catch a team running out Gavin Williams, Tanner Bibee, Parker Messick, Foster Griffin, and Joey Cantillo while supporting them with Jose Ramirez and Kwan/DeLatuer/Bazzana/Genao/Lowe/Adell and the pen with the second best K-BB% in MLB and the 3rd easiest remaining schedule 

Cleveland should run away with this WC3 and Toronto might be lucky to end up within 5 games of them tbh 

Posted

Unfortunately we won’t be going to the playoffs because the angels are bad.  4 days ago we were going to be going to the playoffs.  A lot has changed.  My life is ruined.  This was the only thing keeping me alive and worth living for and now it’s gone.  There is not a single thing on this earth now worth staying alive for.  My 2 week old son will grow up poor and fatherless 

Posted
15 hours ago, james jones said:

This topic can be removed from now on. Bieber might be done for the season with another injury.

I'd say it's over. We need to win these games against weak teams as it is. Jays never had much room 

Posted
5 hours ago, SeranthonySantander said:

Unfortunately we won’t be going to the playoffs because the angels are bad.  4 days ago we were going to be going to the playoffs.  A lot has changed.  My life is ruined.  This was the only thing keeping me alive and worth living for and now it’s gone.  There is not a single thing on this earth now worth staying alive for.  My 2 week old son will grow up poor and fatherless 

I follow baseball in summer because no hockey. Hopefully camp opens up soon

Posted
17 hours ago, Laika said:

Basically running three bullpen or replacement level SP slots 

And trying to catch a team running out Gavin Williams, Tanner Bibee, Parker Messick, Foster Griffin, and Joey Cantillo while supporting them with Jose Ramirez and Kwan/DeLatuer/Bazzana/Genao/Lowe/Adell and the pen with the second best K-BB% in MLB and the 3rd easiest remaining schedule 

Cleveland should run away with this WC3 and Toronto might be lucky to end up within 5 games of them tbh 

Yeah, that rotation and bullpen is probably the best of any of the Wild Card contenders. They’ve already won six straight and are starting to create some separation between themselves and the rest of the pack.

I also wouldn’t count Cleveland out of the division race. If the White Sox fade down the stretch and Cleveland keeps rolling the way they have, there’s a pretty realistic path for them to take the division.

Posted

Cleveland looks a lot like the 2026 Blue Jays.  Great pitching, good pen, terrible offense, struggling superstar.

Kwan's power is completely gone.  He's walking his way to a 109 wRC+.  J-Ram's power is also MIA.  Age may finally be catching up with him.  DeLauter is the only legit bat in the lineup, although it appears they bought Jo Adell at the right time, as he's been hot for them.  Adell blows goats, but he does have power and can go on a hot streak.  Bazzana's just a league average bat at this point and every other regular they have can't hit.

It's pretty sad that might be good enough to win a division and/or make the playoffs.  The state of the AL right now it seems.  Wild stuff.

 

Posted
30 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Cleveland looks a lot like the 2026 Blue Jays.  Great pitching, good pen, terrible offense, struggling superstar.

Kwan's power is completely gone.  He's walking his way to a 109 wRC+.  J-Ram's power is also MIA.  Age may finally be catching up with him.  DeLauter is the only legit bat in the lineup, although it appears they bought Jo Adell at the right time, as he's been hot for them.  Adell blows goats, but he does have power and can go on a hot streak.  Bazzana's just a league average bat at this point and every other regular they have can't hit.

It's pretty sad that might be good enough to win a division and/or make the playoffs.  The state of the AL right now it seems.  Wild stuff.

 

Central has been dogshit for years now really. Occasionally a team pops out and wins 90 but usually it's 1 team that's good and beats up on 4 crap teams that inflates their Ws and they get blasted in the playoffs. 

That said, alot of talent is signing in the NL / signing with the Dodgers every offseason. That is also coinciding with the smaller market teams seeing the benefits of having seemingly 3 or 4 extra picks every year for the past 10 years and getting the young talent up at the same time. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Brownie19 said:

Cleveland looks a lot like the 2026 Blue Jays.  Great pitching, good pen, terrible offense, struggling superstar.

Kwan's power is completely gone.  He's walking his way to a 109 wRC+.  J-Ram's power is also MIA.  Age may finally be catching up with him.  DeLauter is the only legit bat in the lineup, although it appears they bought Jo Adell at the right time, as he's been hot for them.  Adell blows goats, but he does have power and can go on a hot streak.  Bazzana's just a league average bat at this point and every other regular they have can't hit.

It's pretty sad that might be good enough to win a division and/or make the playoffs.  The state of the AL right now it seems.  Wild stuff.

 

Pitching wise their top 4 in the rotation have been able to stay healthy all season. Guys like Williams, Messick, Bibee, and Cantillo haven't missed any starts. They also added Foster Griffin at the trade deadline to upgrade over Cecconi. A healthy and durable rotation goes a long way over 162 games, especially when it comes to not overworking the bullpen every week. 

As for the bullpen, it's been more stable and its a bit deeper than Toronto's. They didn't have the issue like Toronto had in April with Hoffman and Little imploding. Cade Smith, Gaddis, Sabrowski, Holdermann, and Festa have all been reliable and not as overworked as Toronto's pen, which makes a difference. 

Offensively, they've been disappointing and you could even argue worse than Toronto's haha. J-Ram having a down season, Kwan was awful earlier on, and they've been running a slap-hitting infield of Rocchio, Bazzana, Martinez, Arias, and Schneemann for the most part. DeLauter has been solid when healthy (129 wRC+) and Adell was a nice addition at the deadline who could get hot and hit a bunch of HR's in bunches.

Wild stuff indeed. 

 

 

 

Posted

The path to the playoffs was there, and the team was executing it.

But these latest injuries might be the death blow. Losing Trey was a huge hit, but Bieber dealing again gave us some hope. Now that he’s out too, it’s getting hard to see how we pull this off.

Cease, Soriano, Bieber and two s*** starters was doable. But winning series after series with only two real starters is a much tougher ask.

You all know me. I’ll find a way to polish this turd, but you're going to have to give me a minute.

Posted

Ok you guys I guess the path forward is this:

  • Get 1-2 production out of Cease and Soriano.
  • We squeeze more juice out of Spaghetti almost instantly and he pitches like a #3 or 4. 
  • Scherzer is showing a pulse with a 4.41 FIP in the 2nd half but he needs to be more consistent.
  • Taillon comes back and pitches like a #5.
  • Trey comes back in 2-3 weeks.
  • Vlad snaps out of it.
  • 2 or 3 of the other guys in our lineup get hot like Kirk.

Each point above is possible in its own right, but we need at least 5 or 6 of them to happen and that seems pretty tough.

So while I can't say that the playoffs will be easy to make, it is still possible. 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Terminator said:

Ok you guys I guess the path forward is this:

  • Get 1-2 production out of Cease and Soriano.
  • We squeeze more juice out of Spaghetti almost instantly and he pitches like a #3 or 4. 
  • Scherzer is showing a pulse with a 4.41 FIP in the 2nd half but he needs to be more consistent.
  • Taillon comes back and pitches like a #5.
  • Trey comes back in 2-3 weeks.
  • Vlad snaps out of it.
  • 2 or 3 of the other guys in our lineup get hot like Kirk.

Each point above is possible in its own right, but we need at least 5 or 6 of them to happen and that seems pretty tough.

So while I can't say that the playoffs will be easy to make, it is still possible. 

 

There are many ways to win

They could also just get lucky and win a bunch of games where the other time throws the ball away etc. while Cleveland has the opposite kind of luck

Pray for luck

While knowing that the worst case scenario will happen - barely missing the playoffs. 

Posted

I just refuse to get excited about the possibility of making the postseason unless they show the capability of winning four or five games in a row

Posted
4 hours ago, Terminator said:

Ok you guys I guess the path forward is this:

  • Get 1-2 production out of Cease and Soriano.
  • We squeeze more juice out of Spaghetti almost instantly and he pitches like a #3 or 4. 
  • Scherzer is showing a pulse with a 4.41 FIP in the 2nd half but he needs to be more consistent.
  • Taillon comes back and pitches like a #5.
  • Trey comes back in 2-3 weeks.
  • Vlad snaps out of it.
  • 2 or 3 of the other guys in our lineup get hot like Kirk.

Each point above is possible in its own right, but we need at least 5 or 6 of them to happen and that seems pretty tough.

So while I can't say that the playoffs will be easy to make, it is still possible. 

 

Hopefully Yesavage gets back soon. And like you said, Scherzer actually wasn’t pitching that badly for a stretch. At this point, if he can just give us five innings and allow three runs each time out, I’ll take that every day of the week.

I actually like Spaghetti too, and I’m interested to see whether Pete Walker can unlock a little more out of his arm. There’s definitely some potential there.

The biggest thing is Vladdy needs to snap out of it. Then hopefully one or two other bats catch fire down the stretch - whether it’s Kirk, Lukes, Bateman, Sanchez, Okamoto, etc. We don’t need everyone hitting at once, but we desperately need a couple of those guys to get hot alongside Vladdy.

Posted
18 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

I just refuse to get excited about the possibility of making the postseason unless they show the capability of winning four or five games in a row

Yeah it's tough to get excited about this team even if they do make the Postseason. Anything can happen in October, but this group doesn't feel special like the 2025 group unfortunately. 

Posted
36 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said:

I think we are going to make the playoffs so I hold off on my suicide until we find out the results of tonight’s game and see what the Indians do 

They are pulling a 2026 Jays. Outhitting the Angels 7-2 but losing 3-1.

Tigers lost and the Mariners are getting clobbered.

If these scores hold and we win, please forget everything I said today.

Posted
1 hour ago, SeranthonySantander said:

I think we are going to make the playoffs so I hold off on my suicide until we find out the results of tonight’s game and see what the Indians do 

If you need a way to off yourself, might I suggest watching the Angels bullpen try to cling to a lead in a game we need them to win?

My cortisol levels are approaching fatal numbers and they haven't even coughed up the lead yet.

Posted
1 minute ago, Terminator said:

If you need a way to off yourself, might I suggest watching the Angels bullpen try to cling to a lead in a game we need them to win.

My cortisol levels are approaching fatal numbers and they haven't even coughed up the lead yet.

I don’t think the angels will blow this one 

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