Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 7 minutes ago, Rynodb1 said: This is the kind of game that should cost Schneider his job. f***ing pathetic. If that Seattle playoff game didn’t, i don’t know what will leaffie and Jays24 2
max silver Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, Waylanderz said: It is one thing to have Hoffman out there but another to not even be ready to have someone in after seeing how the first 3 batters went. That is my main complaint as well. Hoffman had been pitching quite well recently including some 9th inning appearances. Varland took the tougher matchup in the 8th inning so unless Hoffman was used in the 7th and Rogers in the 9th Hoffman needed to be used somewhere in this game. Stangstag 1
Waylanderz Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Just now, JaysFan99 said: Right? He should have been on a short leash and taken out after he went HBP, triple, double, single, but JS just sat there and watched him walk 2 guys after that. The exact sequence was: K, HBP, Triple, Single, Double, Walk and then another Walk. There is no excuse to have Hoffman faced 7 batters. None at all. dancingmachine and Jays24 2
Masterbather Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 I was fine with Hoffman in the ninth. The guy has been nails. Even in the 9th recently. Struck out the first guy and broke him. It just suddenly came apart out of nowhere. Even when he started the struggle, you have a better chance of him finding his stuff before Seabold saving your ass 😂 Oh well, they deserved to win one of the last two games so fair enough. Try to win the series tomorrow.
Buster Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Just now, Masterbather said: I was fine with Hoffman in the ninth. The guy has been nails. Even in the 9th recently. Struck out the first guy and broke him. It just suddenly came apart out of nowhere. Even when he started the struggle, you have a better chance of him finding his stuff before Seabold saving your ass 😂 Oh well, they deserved to win one of the last two games so fair enough. Try to win the series tomorrow. Hoffman cannot be relied upon in the 9th. He can do it, but can't be trusted. Jays24 and dancingmachine 2
Masterbather Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Just now, Buster said: Hoffman cannot be relied upon in the 9th. He can do it, but can't be trusted. The only thing I would have done differently is had Hoffman in the eighth so at least you have Varland to back him up. Going in reverse order left you with no good option. Spanky__99 1
newhere Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 I honestly don't understand the thinking around Hoffman at this point. Believing in your players and giving them a chance to succeed is a good quality in a leader. But it's so far gone now for Hoffman. His mental game is clearly not there. I don't get why he's being put out there in anything remotely close to high leverage. Yesavage's game today vs Hoffman's is a good example, imo. Yesavage clearly didn't have his command. He had luck on his side, yes. But he stays calm and battles through adversity. Hoffman just seems to crumble at the slightest sign of any adversity. Jays24, Stangstag and dancingmachine 3
leaffie Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 minute ago, Doubleplay21 said: Rob Thomson is available to manage So am I, and I guarantee I couldnt do worse than that mess today.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 This will be a loss we remember in September leaffie, neverbeenhere, Waylanderz and 2 others 5
jmomcc Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 My gripe would be pull him earlier. At least two hitters earlier. Putting him in is fine, a 4 run lead, any reliever should be able to go in. Pinkfloid 1
dancingmachine Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Mall Santa with excuse after excuse. Use Hoffman in lower level situations no more closing you clown Jays24 1
Buster Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Hoffman would and should be the best low leverage reliever.
Laika Community Moderator Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Hoffman and Yariel Rodriguez are the same dude and should be equal on the depth chart Stangstag, Gen.Disarray and Jays24 3
SeranthonySantander Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Time to start looking for a backup team to support because I don’t know if we winning it all. Thinking Oakland or the Indians
Horses Fart Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 2 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said: Time to start looking for a backup team to support because I don’t know if we winning it all. Thinking Oakland or the Indians Oakland. U gotta love that Big Amish. SeranthonySantander 1
RobinThicc Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Unfortunately Hoffman can only be used in blowouts. Can’t trust this dude at all.
james jones Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Any chance JS and this management decide to not putting Hoffman in the 9th or don't give him a long leash after today?
harvey16 Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Hoffman should of been pulled after it was made 5-3, problem is we didn't have anyone good to bring in, since Varland and Rogers had already pitched. That loss hurts!
Masterbather Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 4 minutes ago, SeranthonySantander said: Time to start looking for a backup team to support because I don’t know if we winning it all. Thinking Oakland or the Indians Did you intentionally pick two teams that don't technically exist anymore to be ironical?
Landry_25 Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 1 minute ago, RobinThicc said: Unfortunately Hoffman can only be used in blowouts. Can’t trust this dude at all. It practically was a blowout lmao. Ugh what A frustrating loss. Stangstag 1
james jones Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Just now, RobinThicc said: Unfortunately Hoffman can only be used in blowouts. Can’t trust this dude at all. Even in blowouts, you cannot trust him in the 9th. If you meant the blowouts that we are losing, then I get it.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 23 minutes ago, Buster said: Schneider looks like he's about to cry. Good... if I were anywhere around him, id make sure he would. f***ing imbecile Rynodb1, Spanky__99, dancingmachine and 2 others 2 3
james jones Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 The sad thing is we would've won this game 5-1 if Hoffman pitched in the 8th and Varland in the 9th. For some reason, Hoffman cannot pitch in the 9th the way he pitches in the 7th/8th.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 27 minutes ago, max silver said: That is my main complaint as well. Hoffman had been pitching quite well recently including some 9th inning appearances. Varland took the tougher matchup in the 8th inning so unless Hoffman was used in the 7th and Rogers in the 9th Hoffman needed to be used somewhere in this game. The problem is our idiot manager puts Hoffman on the same level as Rogers and Varland thinking all 3 are interchangeable. You keep guys like Rogers/Varland to put out fires from scrubs like Hoffman. Hoffman 100% needed to pitch the 7th when it was 8/9/1. Or even the 8th inning because you had a 3 run lead so you can bring in Varland if he chokes. Keeping Hoffman gives you no other outs and there was a reason he was pulled as a closer. 0 excuse for continuing this stupid blind trust in a player who has not earned it. Rynodb1 and neverbeenhere 2
BlueJays Verified Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 20 minutes ago, Stangstag said: This will be a loss we remember in September And it won't be the last. If the game from Seattle series didn't make him learn, nothing will lmao Stangstag 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted May 30 Posted May 30 7 minutes ago, ComeTogether said: Hoffman all sorts of records for the Jays. None of them are good and yet our manager is CHOOSING to use this scrub in high leverage.
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