Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[Jays24]

17 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said:

I don't think the Jays made a serious offer to Bo.  Might have given him an offer, but it was no where close to what he signed for.

Ya I just thought a report would come out like it did for Tucker.  Phillies report came out so it makes me feel we didn't even try to bring him back or maybe he told us he was leaving regardless.  Would love for that info to come out.  

[Laika]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

I wonder if the Jays even submitted an offer for Bo.  I have seen nothing aside from the Phillies upping their original offer to 7/200 and thought that was gonna get it done. 

Did the Jays completely punt on bringing him back or did Bo make it clear he wasn't coming back? Hope we get clarity on that because I think its a fumble if we could have brought him back before the Mets got involved.  

seems like a no

the rumours make it feel like they just followed his market and then when his price got too high they signed Okamoto 

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

I wonder if the Jays even submitted an offer for Bo.  I have seen nothing aside from the Phillies upping their original offer to 7/200 and thought that was gonna get it done. 

Did the Jays completely punt on bringing him back or did Bo make it clear he wasn't coming back? Hope we get clarity on that because I think its a fumble if we could have brought him back before the Mets got involved.  

The reality is you're never going to get the full story and even if partial information comes out - you should take it with a grain of salt.  Although without having any information, you've already stated you think it's a fumble, so it seems you've already made up your mind...

 

[M.E.]

I believe it is a combination of Bo not wanting to be in Toronto and the Jays not wanting him at a crazy price.  i am interested to see if Bo acts like he wants to be in NY.  I never got that feeling in Toronto even when he said that he did. Of course I have no inside information so probably complete BS.

 

[Jimcanuck]

Well in the highly unlikely event it was a fumble, after this offseason I'm giving the FO a pass.

[Jays24]

22 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

The reality is you're never going to get the full story and even if partial information comes out - you should take it with a grain of salt.  Although without having any information, you've already stated you think it's a fumble, so it seems you've already made up your mind...

 

We got all offers for Tucker and got the Philly offer for Bo so not sure why youd think we wouldnt get most of the story.  All signs point to the Jays didnt give any serious offers to Bo and if was the Jays choice then hell ya, Id be pissed.  

However, its also possible that Bo said he didnt want to come back and the Jays decided to pivot to Okamoto.  Hoping we get more info on that soon.  

[Jays24]

he is going to get it when he goes to Philly haha

 

[glory]

54 minutes ago, M.E. said:

I believe it is a combination of Bo not wanting to be in Toronto and the Jays not wanting him at a crazy price.  i am interested to see if Bo acts like he wants to be in NY.  I never got that feeling in Toronto even when he said that he did. Of course I have no inside information so probably complete BS.

 

That's my sense. Both sides were ready to move on. I'm sure Bo would have come back if the Jays offered the most, but they  traded for Gimenez a year ago likely for this reason. The Okamoto signing just confirmed it. 

[Jonn]

Now time to steal Bellinger from the Yankees. Add a left-handed reliever and call it an off-season.

We willi miss you Bo. I don’t blame you for taking that contract. But the compensation is nice,

[Jays24]

4 hours ago, glory said:

That's my sense. Both sides were ready to move on. I'm sure Bo would have come back if the Jays offered the most, but they  traded for Gimenez a year ago likely for this reason. The Okamoto signing just confirmed it. 

Picking Gimenez over Bo would be the most hilarious thing ever done so i doubt thats true.  The position change has been obvious for years so i think it was just that.

With the contract we offered Tucker, we clearly had the money to bring Bo back.  We definitely have the need and people will realize the hole he leaves in our lineup.  We dont win the division last year without Bo period!

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

We got all offers for Tucker and got the Philly offer for Bo so not sure why youd think we wouldnt get most of the story.  All signs point to the Jays didnt give any serious offers to Bo and if was the Jays choice then hell ya, Id be pissed.  

However, its also possible that Bo said he didnt want to come back and the Jays decided to pivot to Okamoto.  Hoping we get more info on that soon.  

I'm just not going to fall for the bait, but I know what you're doing here...

[max silver]

50 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

Picking Gimenez over Bo would be the most hilarious thing ever done so i doubt thats true.  The position change has been obvious for years so i think it was just that.

With the contract we offered Tucker, we clearly had the money to bring Bo back.  We definitely have the need and people will realize the hole he leaves in our lineup.  We dont win the division without Bo period!

Are you suggesting that the 2026 Blue Jays have no chance to win the division without Bichette?

[Eat My Shatkins]

Giminez was clearly a back up plan in case Bo walked and here we are, Bo is gone for a ridiculous 45 million per year and Giminez is our starting short stop. And guess what, the Jays are still projected to be the top team in the AL.

Hilarious is right.

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

We got all offers for Tucker and got the Philly offer for Bo so not sure why youd think we wouldnt get most of the story.  All signs point to the Jays didnt give any serious offers to Bo and if was the Jays choice then hell ya, Id be pissed.  

However, its also possible that Bo said he didnt want to come back and the Jays decided to pivot to Okamoto.  Hoping we get more info on that soon.  

Or the Jays were going to match that Phillie offer and said hell no once the Mets swooped in and decided to give him 47M this year.

[jaysblue]

9 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Because that doesn't suit his narrative.  

Man what is your issue? 

Like seriously, last two responses you made towards my posts, you're going back to your old habits that made you one of the most insufferable and arrogant posters on this board. 

You don't have to agree with me on everything I say and that's fine. But stop with the arrogance.

[jaysblue]

10 hours ago, max silver said:

Why should this be such an insurmountable task for Clement? He finished at 98 wRC+ last season despite an awful first month to the season and then followed that up by setting a post season hits record.

You're extremely optimistic and that's fine. I also would love to see Clement finishing with a 100 wRC+ though just tempting my expectations given his age and track record. 

[John_Havok]

4 hours ago, Jays24 said:

I wonder if the Jays even submitted an offer for Bo.  I have seen nothing aside from the Phillies upping their original offer to 7/200 and thought that was gonna get it done. 

Did the Jays completely punt on bringing him back or did Bo make it clear he wasn't coming back? Hope we get clarity on that because I think its a fumble if we could have brought him back before the Mets got involved.  

Just a guess on my part but I think they probably asked for the chance to match any offers he received and declined to do so given what he got from the Mets.

If I was truly guessing... I think he he got his wanted amount and years from Philly, Jays were thinking about maychung when Cohen swooped in and decided to go crazy giving him a panic offer he couldn't refuse and the Jays rightly balked instantly.

Pure speculation on my part with no real evidence to back it up, but I just feel like the Jays absolutely would have brought him back at the # the Phillies offered. 

I could also see Bo opting out of he has even a half decent season and goes back to FA next year in a weak class after the Mets collapse yet again and miss the playoffs.

[max silver]

24 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

You're extremely optimistic and that's fine. I also would love to see Clement finishing with a 100 wRC+ though just tempting my expectations given his age and track record. 

Ernie has an average 98 wRC+ in his time as a Blue Jay. Steamer actually projects him for exactly 100 wRC+, and as such I have a really easy time seeing him finish a touch above that.

[max silver]

32 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Man what is your issue? 

Like seriously, last two responses you made towards my posts, you're going back to your old habits that made you one of the most insufferable and arrogant posters on this board. 

You don't have to agree with me on everything I say and that's fine. But stop with the arrogance.

This sounds more like a you problem. There's no need to act like such a victim over such an innocent post.

[Spanky__99]

50 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

You're extremely optimistic and that's fine. I also would love to see Clement finishing with a 100 wRC+ though just tempting my expectations given his age and track record. 

He's projected for a 100 wRC+, it's not extremely optimistic.

[Spanky__99]

1 hour ago, Spanky__99 said:

Or the Jays were going to match that Phillie offer and said hell no once the Mets swooped in and decided to give him 47M this year.

 

48 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

Just a guess on my part but I think they probably asked for the chance to match any offers he received and declined to do so given what he got from the Mets.

If I was truly guessing... I think he he got his wanted amount and years from Philly, Jays were thinking about maychung when Cohen swooped in and decided to go crazy giving him a panic offer he couldn't refuse and the Jays rightly balked instantly.

Pure speculation on my part with no real evidence to back it up, but I just feel like the Jays absolutely would have brought him back at the # the Phillies offered. 

I could also see Bo opting out of he has even a half decent season and goes back to FA next year in a weak class after the Mets collapse yet again and miss the playoffs.

Same.

[jaysblue]

46 minutes ago, max silver said:

This sounds more like a you problem. There's no need to act like such a victim over such an innocent post.

You’re second right behind him. You guys haven’t changed at all. 

[jaysblue]

27 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

He's projected for a 100 wRC+, it's not extremely optimistic.

Friendly wager? O/U 100 wRC+

Case of beer! 

 

 

[Jays24]

1 hour ago, John_Havok said:

Just a guess on my part but I think they probably asked for the chance to match any offers he received and declined to do so given what he got from the Mets.

If I was truly guessing... I think he he got his wanted amount and years from Philly, Jays were thinking about maychung when Cohen swooped in and decided to go crazy giving him a panic offer he couldn't refuse and the Jays rightly balked instantly.

Pure speculation on my part with no real evidence to back it up, but I just feel like the Jays absolutely would have brought him back at the # the Phillies offered. 

I could also see Bo opting out of he has even a half decent season and goes back to FA next year in a weak class after the Mets collapse yet again and miss the playoffs.

This is where I disagree.  From various reports, the Phillies thought they actually had a deal with Bo with their 7/200M offer.  That doesnt sound like a team that was expecting the Jays to get him. 

If that were the case, we would have already heard the Jays were pissed instead of the Phillies.  The fact we havent even gotten the Jays offer to Bo yet seems telling.  

Now id love to know whether it was the Jays undervaluing Bo to not even want to offer 7/200 or Bo just not wanting to comeback.  Im sure we'll find out soon.  

[Jays24]

2 hours ago, max silver said:

Are you suggesting that the 2026 Blue Jays have no chance to win the division without Bichette?

Who said that?  Just mentioning that the loss of Bo is being undervalued when he was one of our best hitters before he got hurt. 

We got much better long term SP wise, bullpen still doesnt have an elite lefty nor closer and we got worse hitting wise.  Still one of the best teams in the AL and it also helps that no other AL contender did much to close the gap with us.  

[max silver]

1 minute ago, Jays24 said:

Who said that?  Just mentioning that the loss of Bo is being undervalued when he was one of our best hitters before he got hurt. 

We got much better long term SP wise, bullpen still doesnt have an elite lefty nor closer and we got worse hitting wise.  Still one of the best teams in the AL and it also helps that no other AL contender did much to close the gap with us.  

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With the contract we offered Tucker, we clearly had the money to bring Bo back.  We definitely have the need and people will realize the hole he leaves in our lineup.  We dont win the division without Bo period!

Um it appears as though you are saying the Blue Jays aren't winning the division without Bo?

[max silver]

16 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

You’re second right behind him. You guys haven’t changed at all. 

Jesus man you are just embarrassing yourself with the histrionics.

[Jays24]

1 minute ago, max silver said:

Um it appears as though you are saying the Blue Jays aren't winning the division without Bo?

I meant we dont win the division last year without Bo... hell yes I believe that.  We almost self-destructed when he got injured.  Need to remember that the whole fanbase was blasting Vlad for being a ground ball machine prior to the playoffs.  

[max silver]

3 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

I meant we dont win the division last year without Bo... hell yes I believe that.  We almost self-destructed when he got injured.  Need to remember that the whole fanbase was blasting Vlad for being a ground ball machine prior to the playoffs.  

I agree that the team almost certainly would not have won the division without Bo, but the post in question is clear as mud which season you are referring to.

[Spanky__99]

20 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Friendly wager? O/U 100 wRC+

Case of beer! 

 

 

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