Offseason Roster Thread 2025-26

[G-Snarls]

3 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

Now the Bills didn't finish it either.....

 

Pwople underestimated the Broncos all year 

[Spanky__99]

35 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Pwople underestimated the Broncos all year 

Denver's f*cked, Nix broke his ankle on that last drive.

[Spanky__99]

3 hours ago, Jays24 said:

Position/role, its implied by what a closer means just like it would be if people said "leadoff/cleanup hitter" or "ace of the staff"

Not having a true closer aka the guy who pitches the 9th inning of games is a massive hole.  No need to argue semantics lol.  

*shytes pants*

[Brownie19]

40 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Denver's f*cked, Nix broke his ankle on that last drive.

Just brutal. Sucks they are essentially f***ed moving forward.  Missed opportunity for the Bills.

[jaysblue]

12 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Allen 4 TO's

 

Yup too many TO's, especially in the first half when they could have really put the Broncos to rest. 

Game also felt a bit rigged near the end. Some bad calls and then all of a sudden in OT the refs calls PI's on Buffalo when they never threw up any flags all game. Didn't feel right. 

[jaysblue]

9 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

Just brutal. Sucks they are essentially f***ed moving forward.  Missed opportunity for the Bills.

Who would have thought the Patriots would return to the Super Bowl before the Bills? Never had that on my Bingo card. 

[jaysblue]

Some outfielders who could be moved and with controllability:

- Jarren Duran: would actually make a lot of sense for the Toronto Blue Jays on paper. He brings real value in areas the Jays have been trying to improve: plus speed, could play CF, and some offensive upside without needing to be “the guy” in the lineup. He gives flexibility across the outfield, and comes with multiple years of control. That said, the reality is he’s extremely unlikely to be moved within the division.

- Oneil Cruz: is an intriguing fit for the Toronto Blue Jays given the upside, elite raw power, athleticism, and the ability to handle CF in spurts if needed. That said, the likelihood feels low. The Pittsburgh Pirates still likely view Cruz as a foundational piece, and if they ever did move him, the price would be massive and likely aimed at a full prospect haul rather than a win-now deal. Toronto would have to overpay for upside and volatility.

- Luis Robert Jr.: is one of the most obvious upside fits for the Toronto Blue Jays with true CF defense, impact power, and game-changing athleticism when healthy. He’s the type of player who can alter the lineup and defense overnight. The catch is risk and cost. The Chicago White Sox would want a significant return, and Robert’s injury history makes it a high-variance move. Toronto would be betting big on health to justify the price.

- Steven Kwan: would be a really clean fit for the Toronto Blue Jays with elite contact skills, strong on-base ability, and high baseball IQ. He’d lengthen the lineup and fit the Jays’ preference for control and reliability. No power and more of a left fielder however. 

- Lars Nootbaar: Not a true CF and defensively is meh but very controllable, OBP-driven. Seems like St. Louis is reshaping aggressively, so he could probably be available.

- Parker Meadows: Young, controllable CF with strong defense and improving bat. Maybe Detroit would be open to a challenge trade/change of scenery type of deal. 

 

 

[jaysblue]

Would the Milwaukee Brewers ever consider shopping Brice Turang right now? He's going to start getting expensive for them and is a free agent in 2030. We know the Brewers are always open to value trades. Would you deal Yesavage +?

[Jays24]

I dont understand why we're only limited to OFers.  Getting any player will take playing time away from someone.  

OF - Barger, Santandar, Varsho, Lukes, Schnieder, Straw, Springer (sparingly)

IF - Barger, Okamoto, Gimenez, Clement, Schneider, Vladdy

Gimenez is the weakest starter with the bat while Santandar is the weakest starter with the glove.  We can easily move players around with some positional flexibility to accommodate the best pure player available as long as he doesnt play 1B/DH/C.

 

[jaysblue]

4 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

I dont understand why we're only limited to OFers.  Getting any player will take playing time away from someone.  

OF - Barger, Santandar, Varsho, Lukes, Schnieder, Springer, (sparingly)

IF - Barger, Okamoto, Gimenez, Clement, Schneider, Vladdy

Gimenez is the weakest starter with the bat while Santandar is the weakest starter with the glove.  We can easily move players around with some positional flexibility to accommodate the best pure player available as long as he doesnt play 1B/DH/C.

 

Yeah Jays will have to be creative when it comes to moving players around and lineups/matchups. Depth and roster versatility is a strength when healthy. 

If they lose an infielder like Okamoto, Clement or Gimenez, infield depth becomes tested. Some bats may regress also in 2026 like we've discussed. That's why it wouldn't be a bad idea adding another bat if possible. Adding another quality hitter raises the floor of the lineup, so the offense doesn’t collapse if one or two players underperform or miss time.

[Jays24]

18 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Yeah Jays will have to be creative when it comes to moving players around and lineups/matchups. Depth and roster versatility is a strength when healthy. 

If they lose an infielder like Okamoto, Clement or Gimenez, infield depth becomes tested. Some bats may regress also in 2026 like we've discussed. That's why it wouldn't be a bad idea adding another bat if possible. Adding another quality hitter raises the floor of the lineup, so the offense doesn’t collapse if one or two players underperform or miss time.

Ya I dont get why people were only fascinated in getting another OFer.  Not speaking to you as I heard this from many folks in the media too. 

Gimenez was useless with the bat for 90% of last year, we are hoping Clement can replicate his career season and we got no clue how Okamoto's defense will translate to the MLB getting lasers hit at him.   I thought getting another middle infielder was important, which is why I always Bo. 

[Alejandro Murphy]

Happy Sunday all

 

Curious question:  is Framber Valdez an option to sign as a FA?

then package Berrios wiith pieces to acquire another bat in a trade?

[Ryu In My House]

17 hours ago, Carlos Danger said:

Well, he would probably be able to date taller girls for one.

And ride all the rides at Six Flags.

[Jays24]

20 minutes ago, Alejandro Murphy said:

Happy Sunday all

 

Curious question:  is Framber Valdez an option to sign as a FA?

then package Berrios wiith pieces to acquire another bat in a trade?

We already signed Ponce who is the 6th starter right now if everyones healthy and on their games.  We would need to trade Berrios and another starter to justify signing Valdez.  Doubt that happens.  

[Sorrow]

I wonder if the Braves would consider moving Acuna Jr. Yes a stiff breeze is enough to put him on the IL and he’s affordable but he won’t be a player the Braves can afford once his options are up.

[ValiantJaysFan]

Just now, Sorrow said:

I wonder if the Braves would consider moving Acuna Jr. Yes a stiff breeze is enough to put him on the IL and he’s affordable but he won’t be a player the Braves can afford once his options are up.

Acuna isn't a free agent until 2029 (he has two club options at a comically low salary compared to what he'd get on the open market). And this would be akin to the Jays trading Vladdy. It just won't happen.

[ValiantJaysFan]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

Ya I dont get why people were only fascinated in getting another OFer.  Not speaking to you as I heard this from many folks in the media too. 

Gimenez was useless with the bat for 90% of last year, we are hoping Clement can replicate his career season and we got no clue how Okamoto's defense will translate to the MLB getting lasers hit at him.   I thought getting another middle infielder was important, which is why I always Bo. 

To be fair, Giminez was injured for a good chunk of the second half of the year, and it was a bad year for him in general relative to the rest of his career. But he's there for his glove anyway, not really his bat. I think we are gonna roll with him for years tbh.

[Blue balls]

1 hour ago, Jays24 said:

Ya I dont get why people were only fascinated in getting another OFer.  Not speaking to you as I heard this from many folks in the media too. 

Gimenez was useless with the bat for 90% of last year, we are hoping Clement can replicate his career season and we got no clue how Okamoto's defense will translate to the MLB getting lasers hit at him.   I thought getting another middle infielder was important, which is why I always Bo. 

They will get an infielder. It will be a depth player ala IKF.

Reason for wanting an outfielder is very easy to understand in my opinion. There is possibility of losing Varsho after next season. Santander might be bad again this year. Barger could have regression from last year. There is no great options on the OF FA market next winter. They have depth this year with Straw, Lukes, Loperfido and Schneider but I don't see how you wouldn't prefer securing a good OF for the 2027 season and beyond and then trade one of these depth players.

On the other hand, I do agree the INF position is not perfect but the only way it could get improved without costing at bats from good players would be by trading Gimenez and getting a star SS that will play a great D and be solid at bat. Easier said then done.

[Carlos Danger]

1 hour ago, Ryu In My House said:

And ride all the rides at Six Flags.

More rebounds and less reliance on 3 pt shots.

[max silver]

31 minutes ago, Blue balls said:

They will get an infielder. It will be a depth player ala IKF.

Reason for wanting an outfielder is very easy to understand in my opinion. There is possibility of losing Varsho after next season. Santander might be bad again this year. Barger could have regression from last year. There is no great options on the OF FA market next winter. They have depth this year with Straw, Lukes, Loperfido and Schneider but I don't see how you wouldn't prefer securing a good OF for the 2027 season and beyond and then trade one of these depth players.

On the other hand, I do agree the INF position is not perfect but the only way it could get improved without costing at bats from good players would be by trading Gimenez and getting a star SS that will play a great D and be solid at bat. Easier said then done.

[Spanky__99]

4 hours ago, jaysblue said:

Who would have thought the Patriots would return to the Super Bowl before the Bills? Never had that on my Bingo card. 

Texans will have a say in that?

[The_DH]

1 hour ago, Blue balls said:

They will get an infielder. It will be a depth player ala IKF.

Reason for wanting an outfielder is very easy to understand in my opinion. There is possibility of losing Varsho after next season. Santander might be bad again this year. Barger could have regression from last year. There is no great options on the OF FA market next winter. They have depth this year with Straw, Lukes, Loperfido and Schneider but I don't see how you wouldn't prefer securing a good OF for the 2027 season and beyond and then trade one of these depth players.

On the other hand, I do agree the INF position is not perfect but the only way it could get improved without costing at bats from good players would be by trading Gimenez and getting a star SS that will play a great D and be solid at bat. Easier said then done.

Gee, it's like you're a kid on Christmas, your big brother Dodger got a car and you open up the package of coal.  

[Blue balls]

3 minutes ago, The_DH said:

Gee, it's like you're a kid on Christmas, your big brother Dodger got a car and you open up the package of coal.  

Could be worse... NY cousins Yankee and Met opened their packages and there was nothing but a piece of s*** in them.

[Stangstag]

3 hours ago, Jays24 said:

I dont understand why we're only limited to OFers.  Getting any player will take playing time away from someone.  

OF - Barger, Santandar, Varsho, Lukes, Schnieder, Straw, Springer (sparingly)

IF - Barger, Okamoto, Gimenez, Clement, Schneider, Vladdy

Gimenez is the weakest starter with the bat while Santandar is the weakest starter with the glove.  We can easily move players around with some positional flexibility to accommodate the best pure player available as long as he doesnt play 1B/DH/C.

 

If only we could combine Santander and Gimenez into a single player lol

[The_DH]

9 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

If only we could combine Santander and Gimenez into a single player lol

Santander hit .175.  Well, I suppose he can only get better offensively.    

[Funky]

11 minutes ago, Stangstag said:

If only we could combine Santander and Gimenez into a single player lol

What do Clement and Gimenez splits look like? Clement loves lefties if I remember correctly and doesn’t Giminez really struggle against lefty’s.  If you platoon them would they at least be an average at bat offensively? 

[Jays24]

16 minutes ago, Funky said:

What do Clement and Gimenez splits look like? Clement loves lefties if I remember correctly and doesn’t Giminez really struggle against lefty’s.  If you platoon them would they at least be an average at bat offensively? 

Gimenez struggles against everything but he does seem to have hitting tools that can be improved.  Hopefully he can take the Varsho path of improving hitting wise.  

[Eat My Shatkins]

Clement and Giminez are going to provide elite up the middle defense, if they have league average bats they should combine for 6~ fWAR as our 8-9 hitters. Not concerned about them too much. Add in Varsho and Kirk, the middle of the diamond is freaking top notch defensively, and Straw is always kicking around as that stud outfield defensive replacement.

Santander needs to bring the big Taters bat though, It's pretty important, and will leave a big hole if he repeats last years debacle.

The biggest wild card is obviously Oka, on both offense and defense.

The good news is the roster has tons of depth and versatility to cover for underperformance and/or injury. And the pitching looks oh so juicy on paper.

[Spanky__99]

2 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Texans will have a say in that?

CJ. Stroud says *Hold My Beer*

[jaysblue]

3 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

Texans will have a say in that?

I love their defense, but man Stroud has looked pretty bad this game so far. They're lucky it's only 21-13.