Rangers (Eovaldi) vs Blue Jays (Berrios): 8/17/25, 1:37pm

[John_Havok]

That was a great pitch too... pinpoint on the low and away corner

[Omar]

Holy two out hits.  Let's get out of this.

[Jays24]

What a horrible inning man... f***

[John_Havok]

Another great pitch with a s***** result.. that ball was halfway into the RH batters box.

xBA of .070 gets through lol

[Omar]

0-2 count put it in the dirt Berrios.............s***.

[dancingmachine]

Ugly

[Jonn]

Clearly has nothing to get anybody out. But sure let him blow any chance of getting back into the game.

[dancingmachine]

Barger nice

[Jays24]

Berrios not making a strong case for a 6 man rotation.  

[dancingmachine]

Vladdy swinging at worms there

[dancingmachine]

Good job Bo

[Jays24]

Ya sorry but I dont want to see less Bieber starts and even Scherzer/Lauer starts with the way theyre pitching to accommodate a 6 man rotation.  

[Masterbather]

The problem with Berrios is the fact that he has multiple years left on his contract.

I don't want that to influence any decisions the Blue Jays make with him but it probably will.

[Jays24]

Just now, Masterbather said:

The problem with Berrios is the fact that he has multiple years left on his contract.

I don't want that to influence any decisions the Blue Jays make with him but it probably will.

Let's be real, Bassitt is an expiring and he won't go to the bullpen either.  Hard to tell a vet who isnt clearly crapping the bed theyre out of the rotation. 

[John_Havok]

2 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

The problem with Berrios is the fact that he has multiple years left on his contract.

I don't want that to influence any decisions the Blue Jays make with him but it probably will.

Just hope he has a resurgent 2026 and opts out. 

[Nexii]

I mean Berrios/Bassitt are fine as backend starters. On pace for 2 WAR. The problem is we don't have any elite pitching, just a bunch of average guys.

Subtracting Green and Francis, we're still league average in pitching. Shows how much the lineup has carried this team, we'd be .500 with an average lineup

[dancingmachine]

Qualified starters era KG is 32, JB is 36 CB is 43

[jaysthebest]

We would've been #1 in the major league if our rotation was league average. 

[neverbeenhere]

a blow out loss after a blow out win 

[Buster]

9 minutes ago, Nexii said:

I mean Berrios/Bassitt are fine as backend starters. On pace for 2 WAR. The problem is we don't have any elite pitching, just a bunch of average guys.

Subtracting Green and Francis, we're still league average in pitching. Shows how much the lineup has carried this team, we'd be .500 with an average lineup

With an average lineup and average pitching, we would be....average.  And .500 is pretty average.

[Buster]

9 minutes ago, Nexii said:

I mean Berrios/Bassitt are fine as backend starters. On pace for 2 WAR. The problem is we don't have any elite pitching, just a bunch of average guys.

Subtracting Green and Francis, we're still league average in pitching. Shows how much the lineup has carried this team, we'd be .500 with an average lineup

One of them will lose their starting job once Bieber is back, right?

[jaysthebest]

3 minutes ago, Buster said:

One of them will lose their starting job once Bieber is back, right?

Berrios/Bassitt should be gone. 

[neverbeenhere]

2 minutes ago, jaysthebest said:

Berrios/Bassitt should be gone. 

for post season they need only 4 SPs

[Jays24]

At least we are "ballooning" Evaldi's ERA lol

[jaysblue]

3 minutes ago, neverbeenhere said:

for post season they need only 4 SPs

Yeah and even in an ALDS, you only need 3 starters really that series, depending on the amount of off-days. 

 

[jaysblue]

7 minutes ago, jaysthebest said:

Berrios/Bassitt should be gone. 

Bassitt is likely gone as a FA. 

Berrios will be back next season. 

During 162 game season, both are valuable arms since they can provide innings and durability. 

However, if the Postseason started today, neither of them are on the Postseason roster IMO. 

Will be a tough decision once Bieber is back, do they remove one of Berrios or Bassitt from the rotation or go with a 6-man rotation for September. 

[jaysblue]

6 minutes ago, Jays24 said:

At least we are "ballooning" Evaldi's ERA lol

I know some people on here own Eovaldi shares in fantasy baseball, though I hope the Jays bats could still pad up some their offensive numbers even if this game seems out of reach. 

[Nexii]

Just now, jaysblue said:

Bassitt is likely gone as a FA. 

Berrios will be back next season. 

During 162 game season, both are valuable arms since they can provide innings and durability. 

However, if the Postseason started today, neither of them are on the Postseason roster IMO. 

Will be a tough decision once Bieber is back, do they remove one of Berrios or Bassitt from the rotation or go with a 6-man rotation for September. 

Yea feels like Loperfido situation again, tough decisions to be made

Looking at most teams with better pitching they either have 3 or even 4 guys pitching like Gausman (good, not great) OR one really elite starter that's elevating the SP WAR. Also our #5 spot has been an absolute black hole. Scherzer is coming back strong though so it might not be that bleak. 

[glory]

Berrios’ options for 2027-28 will either be 2/48, 2/50, or 2/52 depending on how many innings he throws in 2026. In other words, he’s not opting out.

Have to hope Arte Moreno needs a starter this winter. 

[Nexii]

Bassitt has been slightly better, so it's probably his rotation slot. Berrios being back next year I think plays less of a factor given they are in a playoff race. That's if they go 5 man rotation which I think they should. The bye is just too important to shoot for over being nice