Blue Jays (Berrios) vs Orioles (Kremer): 7/30/25, 12:35pm

[Brownie19]

14 minutes ago, Grant77 said:

The results indicate a lack of focus, effort, and execution in my opinion. I don't see anything beyond that and I certainly didn't say that they weren't trying.

So lack of effort and not trying are 2 different things?  Interesting

You said Berrios can be inconsistent.  I suspect that's all you're seeing.  You simply never know what you're going to get with Berrios, but at the end of the year, if you squint a bit, he's a solid middle of the rotation guy.

Can't trust him with a playoff start though IMO.

[G-Snarls]

Ooo that HR swing was a beauty 

[keggy]

It's Chad Green time. Wait never mind.

[John_Havok]

I really want Straw to get one more PA.... if there's a guy who can hit a triple in this dump, it's him. 

[dancingmachine]

What a comeback 

[G-Snarls]

Just now, keggy said:

It's Chad Green time. Wait never mind.

LMFAO

Thankfully that option has been taken away 

[neverbeenhere]

2 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

This is false, stop trolling man.

you are a troll, as everyone knows 

[dancingmachine]

Just now, keggy said:

It's Chad Green time. Wait never mind.

Lol$10.5 million dollar homerun derby pitcher

[Brownie19]

5 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Holy s*** Lukes!

Needed that soooooooooo bad 

I think Lukes himself needed that as much as the team did.  He's been struggling lately.

[sliderguy35]

myles straw cycle watch... never a dull moment with this team

[Grant77]

1 minute ago, Brownie19 said:

So lack of effort and not trying are 2 different things?  Interesting

You said Berrios can be inconsistent.  I suspect that's all you're seeing.  

A poor effort doesn't mean a player isn't trying. I hate when people try to dissect every single word on a message board, they have multiple meanings.

I'll rephrase. I expect better (results) from Berrios in an important situation like this. I expect you'll fight me on this too.

[Grant77]

I think Schneider could be a backup 1B with some work in the offseason. That play is made if he and Clement are swapped.

[dancingmachine]

Omg DS we need outs

[John_Havok]

7 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

So lack of effort and not trying are 2 different things?  Interesting

You said Berrios can be inconsistent.  I suspect that's all you're seeing.  

I know what Grant is saying, but it's like one of those things that can never be quantified. Like... use Bassitt as an example. A few starts ago he guts through 6 innings walks the tightrope, bends, but doesnt break and ends up giving the pen a break by eating up those innings. Some fans see starts like that .. the timing of them and make the leap that the pitcher was just somehow able to summon some extra fortitude on demand in order to clutch up. (not saying Grant is doing this... but we all know fans that do)

Fast-forward to his last start and he got the sh*t kicked out of him, so it must be because he wasn't focused or wasnt trying. Same thing with Berrios. 

It's just that psychological projection that fans have with all sports. Its 99% made up and just helps fans either lay blame, or feel better. 

[Spanky__99]

13 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

So lack of effort and not trying are 2 different things?  Interesting

You said Berrios can be inconsistent.  I suspect that's all you're seeing.  You simply never know what you're going to get with Berrios, but at the end of the year, if you squint a bit, he's a solid middle of the rotation guy.

Can't trust him with a playoff start though IMO.

Agreed, but I trust him in a postseason start, just don't yank him when he's dealing.

 

[G-Snarls]

Come on Yariel 

Settle down 

[dancingmachine]

No make it stop 

[Laika]

• Orioles are still a good lineup despite the bad year
• Orioles LHB are a bad matchup for Berrios and Bassitt
• Jays were likely to have a come-down after the bigger series that preceded this
• Orioles are better than their record, probably. By true talent
• The weather is gross

All of this lined up to be a gross series. It's too bad that Hoffman blew the last game; I would have been happy with a split. 

My biggest disappointment is that the Jays could only trot out a Lucas and Estrada piggy back for game 1 yesterday. That's just not a very competitive offering on the bump. 

I agree with Mr. Grant that some of the performance has been frustrating. Maybe some lack of preparation from Bassitt or Berrios but honestly who knows. They could have just not had it vs. a decent lineup. Some bad offensive performances too, situationally, by certain players. 

[HomeRunHomer]

Yariel getting BABIP'd

[Spanky__99]

6 minutes ago, neverbeenhere said:

you are a troll, as everyone knows 

🖕🤡

[glory]

Yariel getting unlucky but tying run up now. Ugh.

[Brownie19]

4 minutes ago, John_Havok said:

I know what Grant is saying, but it's like one of those things that can never be quantified. Like... use Bassitt as an example. A few starts ago he guts through 6 innings walks the tightrope, bends, but doesnt break and ends up giving the pen a break by eating up those innings. Some fans see starts like that .. the timing of them and make the leap that the pitcher was just somehow able to summon some extra fortitude on demand in order to clutch up. 

Fast-forward to his last start and he got the sh*t kicked out of him, so it must be because he wasn't focused or wasnt trying. Same thing with Berrios. 

It's just that psychological projection that fans have with all sports. Its 99% made up and just helps fans either lay blame, or feel better. 

Well I agree with that.  Berrios and Bassitt can't control the outcomes (like you said).  That's just nonsense.  This is baseball.

Unless they were out drinking the night before, skipped the preparation meetings or something else - this likely isn't something they can control.  Of all the guys on the team, Berrios and Bassitt are probably 2 of the most professional guys we have.  They are giving it everything they have out there.

[dancingmachine]

Omg this is painful 

[HomeRunHomer]

oh c'mon now. :(

[gruber9292]

Good God this is sad 

[Brownie19]

1 minute ago, glory said:

Yariel getting unlucky but tying run up now. Ugh.

He just needs more focus and effort.

[G-Snarls]

Omg 

Unusual defensive failure by Clement 

[HomeRunHomer]

he scored through the 5hole.

[neverbeenhere]

Come on Y-Rod 

[Spanky__99]

2 big errors by Ernie, it's killed us this game.