Blue Jays (Scherzer) vs Tigers (Flaherty): 7/27/25, 1:40pm

[Masterbather]

Broke the shutout at least.

 

[Masterbather]

11 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Imagine if the Blue Jays ever came back within an 11-run inning after everything Detroit's been through lately. 

They probably just canceled their season at that point.

Come on boys, a home run here puts the pressure on lol

[Omar]

Tigers don't have a swing and miss bullpen. 

[glory]

That Chad Green DFA notification is going to hit like crack.

[Nexii]

Just now, Omar said:

Tigers don't have a swing and miss bullpen. 

Jays don't have a swing and miss lineup :)

[keggy]

Imagine if Green kept us in this game

[hanton]

it's why down by a few and late you need to bring in a shutdown reliver, get to work Atkins

[hanton]

1 minute ago, keggy said:

Imagine if Green kept us in this game

imagine this scenario in a playoff game, down by 3/4 and late you need to have a shutdown reliever available to give the offense a chance

[HomeRunHomer]

Jays lose?

 

[Masterbather]

6 minutes ago, keggy said:

Imagine if Green kept us in this game

Then we would have seen Vest.

[Jonn]

DFA Green. And hope the Yankees pick him up so he can start blowing games for them.

[Spanky__99]

13 minutes ago, hanton said:

imagine this scenario in a playoff game, down by 3/4 and late you need to have a shutdown reliever available to give the offense a chance

In a playoff game, they wouldn't use Green, hell, he won't be on this roster.

[Masterbather]

1 minute ago, Jonn said:

DFA Green. And hope the Yankees pick him up so he can start blowing games for them.

Either the trade deadline will kill him off or bringing up somebody like Estrada for the four games in 3 days will kill him off. Just a matter of which one and when.

[G-Snarls]

Chad Greene can't be on the post season roster 

[Nexii]

Really hoping they get 2 relievers for Green & Bruihl

[Spanky__99]

1 minute ago, Nexii said:

Really hoping they get 2 relievers for Green & Bruihl

Bednar and Santana, get it done Ross.

[Spanky__99]

Bichette's en fuego... 5-5 with a 2B. 😎

Hey Bichette haters... 🖕

[Masterbather]

16 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

Bichette's en fuego... 5-5 with a 2B. 😎

Hey Bichette haters... 🖕

I don't know if anybody hates Bichette, I just think there's a lot of debate over what he's actually worth on a long-term deal.

[Spanky__99]

7 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

I don't know if anybody hates Bichette, I just think there's a lot of debate over what he's actually worth on a long-term deal.

Adames money is the comp for me. 

There's plenty of Bo haters on this forum since day 1, bruh. Where've you been?

[Blue balls]

This lost sucks. 
Still don’t get why you throw in Chad Green when you’re only down 3-0 and still have 2 innings to hit. At least he probably identified the area needing improvement to the management himself !

[jaysthebest]

At least Green didn't give up a home rum this time! That's an improvement.

[Stangstag]

2 hours ago, gruber9292 said:

Bo looked like an old man there, hope he agrees to move to second if we sign him. 

I wouldn’t sign him as a SS going forward 

[Stangstag]

Looks like Scherzer was pretty damn good today other than that homer to Gleyber. Offense went a quiet today.

still 3/4 from the Tigers on the road is excellent given we had to face Skubal

[max silver]

1 hour ago, Stangstag said:

I wouldn’t sign him as a SS going forward 

If Bo is retained the club isn't forced to keep him at short stop if he eventually proves to be incapable of playing the position.

[G-Snarls]

2 hours ago, Stangstag said:

Looks like Scherzer was pretty damn good today other than that homer to Gleyber. Offense went a quiet today.

still 3/4 from the Tigers on the road is excellent given we had to face Skubal

Absolutely 

We've gotten spoiled 

Can't sweet every 4 game series :)

This just wasn't the game I expected them to lose but whatever 

[gruber9292]

11 hours ago, max silver said:

If Bo is retained the club isn't forced to keep him at short stop if he eventually proves to be incapable of playing the position.

Without checking the stats, I'll bet Bo has the worst range of all starting shortstops in the MLB.. 

[Grant77]

36 minutes ago, gruber9292 said:

Without checking the stats, I'll bet Bo has the worst range of all starting shortstops in the MLB.. 

You would be incorrect. UZR and statcast have him very slightly below average, not close to being the worst. It's actually JP Crawford by a fairly significant amount.

[max silver]

4 hours ago, Grant77 said:

You would be incorrect. UZR and statcast have him very slightly below average, not close to being the worst. It's actually JP Crawford by a fairly significant amount.

UZR is basically obsolete at this point as Fangraphs has implemented OAA for their defensive value calculations. Bo is down near the bottom in both DRS and OAA value, however if memory serves he's been playing at even or slightly better for awhile now as the values have been holding pretty steady and/or slowly creeping up in recent months. He's turned into a very steady defender who has been making the plays that he can get to as he's largely cleaned up the errors in his game. 

[Grant77]

49 minutes ago, max silver said:

UZR is basically obsolete at this point as Fangraphs has implemented OAA for their defensive value calculations. Bo is down near the bottom in both DRS and OAA value, however if memory serves he's been playing at even or slightly better for awhile now as the values have been holding pretty steady and/or slowly creeping up in recent months. He's turned into a very steady defender who has been making the plays that he can get to as he's largely cleaned up the errors in his game. 

The comment in question was specifically about his range, which OAA does not evaluate independently. 

[max silver]

5 minutes ago, Grant77 said:

The comment in question was specifically about his range, which OAA does not evaluate independently. 

OAA definitely has a range component. Open up Bo's baseball savant page and go to the fielding tab and you can find the range values. Bo is presently sitting a -2 runs for range presently. The chart below didn't quite paste properly as I'm still trying to determine how to reliably share these but the non highlighted -2 values denote Bo's range value.

 

Statcast Fielding Run Value

 

2019	-4	-4	-4	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	362	--	--	--
2020	1	1	1	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	217	--	--	--
2021	-4	-4	-4	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	1,271	--	--	--
2022	-6	-6	-6	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	1,374	--	--	--
2023	-2	-2	-2	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	1,136	--	--	--
2024	1	1	1	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	684	--	--	--
2025	-2	-2	-2	--	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--	849	--	--	--
Player	-16	-16	-16	0	0	--	--	--	--	--	--	--