Blue Jays (Berrios) vs White Sox (Burke): 7/7/25, 7:40pm

[o2cui2i]

Just now, Jonn said:

It really is a fun problem. Remember when nobody would homer for a week straight. I try not to. But those nightmares still exist for me.

The first month of the season was brutal. No power, couldn't hit w/RISP and the pen got torched because almost every game was only 1 or 2 runs. 

[glory]

6 minutes ago, Terminator said:

This team is so damn good we are forced to fight over the bullpen usage of our low leverage guys in an 8-4 blowout

Agreed. I much prefer this over making jokes about needing 5 singles to score 1 run, which was basically all of April.

Winning cures all. 

[jaysthebest]

1 minute ago, Masterbather said:

When it's all said and done I would prefer a bullpen without Sandlin and Green.

I'm a little bit worried about Sandlin's FIP, but he is one of the best bullpen arms we have right now... Also he just got back from the injury so give him some time to get back to his form,

[o2cui2i]

8 minutes ago, Omar said:

Is that 9 wins in a row now?  I believe it is!

I'm with you on the first one, don't jinx it with the second one man!! lol

[Masterbather]

4 minutes ago, o2cui2i said:

I'm with you on that, but they don't have enough solid arms in the pen. They really need to bring in at least 1 more guy before the deadline 

Pina is was a bad option. They already have Green to be a s***** mop up guy, but Green keeps being used in leverage situations. 

at least they won. 4am end doesn't hurt as much with a win lol 

Well Garcia is one arm. Depending if you want to have a long guy like Estrada that could be another.

Otherwise unless it's someone like Fluharty putting his s*** back together again, yes they probably would have to acquire one more arm to replace both of them.

[Jonn]

53-38. Dare to dream the Blue Jays could be 20 games over .500 going into the All-Star break if they take care of business.

[Terminator]

I think we need to get creative with the IL to get some of these guys back up

*Manny Piñata to the IL after slipping on a slice of Chicago Deep Dish after the game, Lazardo Estrada recalled from Buffalo

After Estrada throws two innings tomorrow in a 6 run blowout:

*Lazardo Estrada to the IL after twisting his ankle while fleeing Chicago gun violence , Justin Bruihl recalled from Buffalo

 

[Masterbather]

3 minutes ago, jaysthebest said:

I'm a little bit worried about Sandlin's FIP, but he is one of the best bullpen arms we have right now... Also he just got back from the injury so give him some time to get back to his form,

Well this sort of is his form though. Dude has not been good for the last couple years. I'd rather him than Green if I had to choose.

[o2cui2i]

after the game, I'll have to admit that Buckner didn't completely fvck up the game. some bad calls early, but for the most part the players got to decide the game despite his efforts 


 

 

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C. B. Bucknor is a Jamaican umpire in Major League Baseball (MLB) who has worked in both major leagues since 2000. He has been recognized as one of the worst umpires in MLB, with Sports Illustrated surveys of active major league players voting him as the worst umpire in MLB in 2003 and 2006. In a 2010 ESPN survey of 100 active players, Bucknor was again named the worst umpire in MLB.

Bucknor has been the subject of criticism for his performance, with several instances of missed calls and controversial decisions. For example, in a game between the Cardinals and Reds, he missed a season-high 28 calls. Another instance involved a missed strikeout call in the eighth inning of a Dodgers-Mariners game, which led to Dodgers manager Dave Roberts expressing his dissatisfaction.

Recent reports indicate that Bucknor's performance has continued to draw criticism. A post on Reddit mentioned that he had another dreadful game behind the plate, with users discussing his poor accuracy and the impact of his calls on the game. Additionally, there have been discussions about the need for MLB to address the issue of poor umpiring, with some suggesting that automated ball/strike calls might be necessary.

Despite the criticism, Bucknor has had some notable moments in his career, including being the home plate umpire for Lucas Giolito’s no-hitter in 2020. However, his overall performance has been a point of contention among players, coaches, and fans.

[Masterbather]

2 minutes ago, Jonn said:

53-38. Dare to dream the Blue Jays could be 20 games over .500 going into the All-Star break if they take care of business.

Oh you just had to do that didn't you? 

We were all probably thinking it but now you went and said it.

[spats]

Jays have won 9 in a row and some are still compaining about Schneider. He probably is in the running for manager of the year. Get a f***ing life.

[GoBlue41]

2 minutes ago, Jonn said:

53-38. Dare to dream the Blue Jays could be 20 games over .500 going into the All-Star break if they take care of business.

That would be a beautiful thing for sure! Even great teams slip on a banana peel now and again and drop games to horrible teams. Hopefully this team can stay focused and beat these teams they are supposed to beat heading into the break. It sure is a fun team to watch right now. 

[o2cui2i]

The Jays have their Mojo on overdrive right now. This is the best 1 to 9 lineups I can remember for a long time. There really aren't many weaknesses, now that Schneider started making the lineup fluid. That is something many has wanted for years. Hot hitters get moved into higher leverage hitting sports. Springer is kicking it in his OP position. 

chemistry of the team is very good right now. 

[G-Snarls]

Jays win 

Rays lose

Yanks idle

Another good day in the standings 

[Spanky__99]

26 minutes ago, Laika said:

Okay whatever 

Wins are wins, who gives a ☺️*** about Chad Green 

Dump Pina and get Bruihl or Estrada back up 

Exactly, there's zero issue here. 🤔

[M.E.]

22 minutes ago, spats said:

Jays have won 9 in a row and some are still compaining about Schneider. He probably is in the running for manager of the year. Get a f***ing life.

You're not wrong, but way to parrot Blair and barker postgame on the MOY thing.

[jaysblue]

Great start to the road trip! Let's finish out the first half strong by beating up on the White Sox and A's! 

[dineke]

38 minutes ago, G-Snarls said:

Jays win 

Rays lose

Yanks idle

Another good day in the standings 

Not worried about those bottom feeders. Gotta catch the Astros or Tigers for the bye.

[spats]

52 minutes ago, M.E. said:

You're not wrong, but way to parrot Blair and barker postgame on the MOY thing.

I didn't catch the postgame. Just my humble opinion and probably that of many others.

[infinitebook]

Berrios getting the early pull might have been tied to his velocity being down

[max silver]

5 hours ago, Masterbather said:

I'd rather he go another inning than risk burning a bullpen arm.

You were counting on Pina to not give up three or four runs in three innings. I know it's Chicago but he's a very mediocre pitcher. There was always a good chance he would give up those three or four runs and force us to use another arm. 

It's not like Berrios has ever struggled with fatigue, he probably gets through seven in around 90 pitches.

Just got too cute there going one inning too early.

If the team wasn't willing to use Pina in an 8-1 game against the White Sox then he shouldn't be on the roster to start with. This was the perfect game to give him a chance to show what he could do without torching the team's chances of winning. On top of that we saw a recent Berrios start where he was similarly in cruise control and from out of nowhere gave up a huge inning to the Yankees to allow them back into the game. I maintain it's always far better to pull a starter a tad too early then leaving him in too long. 

 

 

[max silver]

5 hours ago, Masterbather said:

You keep making yourself look stupid, I have actually defended him on several occasions but you're a f***ass who doesn't actually pay attention, you run with your own narrative and then you create your straw man ******** and then come on here and look like an idiot twice in one thread. Just quit while you're behind.

I don't really criticize Schneider much at all, probably as little as anyone on here.

So the guy who spent the entirety of the off-season boldly proclaiming how the team should be blown up is accusing another board member of making himself look stupid. 

[max silver]

5 hours ago, o2cui2i said:

I'm with you on that, but they don't have enough solid arms in the pen. They really need to bring in at least 1 more guy before the deadline 

Pina is was a bad option. They already have Green to be a s***** mop up guy, but Green keeps being used in leverage situations. 

at least they won. 4am end doesn't hurt as much with a win lol 

I fully agree that the team needs another leverage arm asap. Schneider was forced to use Green in leverage situations due to the pen largely being on fumes and each game having important relievers unavailable, but thank goodness Green managed to largely smoke and mirrors his way into some effective outings. 

[SuperFuzzBigMuff]

12 hours ago, o2cui2i said:

The first month of the season was brutal. No power, couldn't hit w/RISP and the pen got torched because almost every game was only 1 or 2 runs. 

This is still an issue for the 500 Million Dollar Man!

[polar bear]

37 minutes ago, SuperFuzzBigMuff said:

This is still an issue for the 500 Million Dollar Man!

And ain’t that the truth.

[PickleJ]

13 hours ago, Terminator said:

This team is so damn good we are forced to fight over the bullpen usage of our low leverage guys in an 8-4 blowout

Haha

I wasn’t able to catch the game last night, but by scanning this thread, I take Pina mania will not become a thing. 

Was his stuff DFA bad? Or was that just game thread hyperbole in your opinion? He does have all his options  

Not saying you were suggesting DFAing him. Tossing the question your way, because I found your postgame bullpen take to be the most balanced. 

[max silver]

1 hour ago, PickleJ said:

Haha

I wasn’t able to catch the game last night, but by scanning this thread, I take Pina mania will not become a thing. 

Was his stuff DFA bad? Or was that just game thread hyperbole in your opinion? He does have all his options  

Not saying you were suggesting DFAing him. Tossing the question your way, because I found your postgame bullpen take to be the most balanced. 

I don't have a good feel for the stuff as of yet but the command was legitimately awful for his Blue Jays debut. 

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, PickleJ said:

Haha

I wasn’t able to catch the game last night, but by scanning this thread, I take Pina mania will not become a thing. 

Was his stuff DFA bad? Or was that just game thread hyperbole in your opinion? He does have all his options  

Not saying you were suggesting DFAing him. Tossing the question your way, because I found your postgame bullpen take to be the most balanced. 

Piñata's splitter seemed to be okay but his fastball looked pretty bad

[max silver]

28 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Piñata's splitter seemed to be okay but his fastball looked pretty bad

The stuff+ numbers have been posted to Fangraphs.

C	Stf+ FS	Stf+ SL	Stf+ CU	Stf+ CH	Stf+ KC	Stf+ FO	Stuff+	Location+	Pitching+
Total	- - -	- - -	0	85	96		89	90					91	102	99
Date	Team	Opp	GS	Stf+ FA	Stf+ SI	Stf+ FC	Stf+ FS	Stf+ SL	Stf+ CU	Stf+ CH	Stf+ KC	Stf+ FO	Stuff+	Location+	Pitching+
2025-07-07	TOR	@CHW	0	77	95		90	102					92	101	98
2025-06-20	MIA	ATL	0	94	110		87	82					90	105	101

[Terminator]

1 minute ago, max silver said:

The stuff+ numbers have been posted to Fangraphs.

C	Stf+ FS	Stf+ SL	Stf+ CU	Stf+ CH	Stf+ KC	Stf+ FO	Stuff+	Location+	Pitching+
Total	- - -	- - -	0	85	96		89	90					91	102	99
Date	Team	Opp	GS	Stf+ FA	Stf+ SI	Stf+ FC	Stf+ FS	Stf+ SL	Stf+ CU	Stf+ CH	Stf+ KC	Stf+ FO	Stuff+	Location+	Pitching+
2025-07-07	TOR	@CHW	0	77	95		90	102					92	101	98
2025-06-20	MIA	ATL	0	94	110		87	82					90	105	101

77 Stuff+ fastball lol

That's basically batting practice