Matthew Lenz Jays Centre Contributor Posted June 12, 2025 Posted June 12, 2025 Earlier this week, the Milwaukee Brewers moved starter Aaron Civale to the bullpen in favor of top prospect Jacob Misiorowski. The move has prompted the 30-year-old right hander to request a trade from the Brewers in hopes of remaining a starter with another team, according to Ken, Rosenthal and Will Sammon of The Athletic. In five starts his season, Civale has a 4.29 ERA (4.30 FIP) and a mediocre 15.2% strikeout minus walk rate. He's been particularly susceptible to the long ball this season as he's given up five home runs across 22 innings pitched. Civale is making $8 million this season, which will be prorated based on his service time this season, and will be entering free agency at seasons end. He'd be a plenty serviceable arm for a Toronto Blue Jays rotation that has dealt with injuries this year, most notably to Max Scherzer. For more information on Civale, check out this articles related to the news on our sister site, Brewer Fanatic. Do you think the Blue Jays should kick the tires on Civale? Join the conversation in the comments! View full rumor
Grant77 Old-Timey Member Posted June 12, 2025 Posted June 12, 2025 For now, I'm comfortable with Lauer and Scherzer. I think there will be better options for us going forward.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted June 12, 2025 Posted June 12, 2025 15 minutes ago, Grant77 said: For now, I'm comfortable with Lauer and Scherzer. I think there will be better options for us going forward. There will be better options available than Civale, the problem is that they won't be available for six weeks. Terminator 1
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 12, 2025 Posted June 12, 2025 What if we traded for Civale right now and use him for 6 weeks, and then we can trade him again at the deadline? Some penny pincher will take him and we can go after a bigger fish. Perfect Game, jaysblue and Spanky__99 2 1
Masterbather Verified Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 6 hours ago, Matthew Lenz said: Earlier this week, the Milwaukee Brewers moved starter Aaron Civale to the bullpen in favor of top prospect Jacob Misiorowski. The move has prompted the 30-year-old right hander to request a trade from the Brewers in hopes of remaining a starter with another team, according to Ken, Rosenthal and Will Sammon of The Athletic. In five starts his season, Civale has a 4.29 ERA (4.30 FIP) and a mediocre 15.2% strikeout minus walk rate. He's been particularly susceptible to the long ball this season as he's given up five home runs across 22 innings pitched. Civale is making $8 million this season, which will be prorated based on his service time this season, and will be entering free agency at seasons end. He'd be a plenty serviceable arm for a Toronto Blue Jays rotation that has dealt with injuries this year, most notably to Max Scherzer. For more information on Civale, check out this articles related to the news on our sister site, Brewer Fanatic. Do you think the Blue Jays should kick the tires on Civale? Join the conversation in the comments! View full rumor Ew. I'd rather Laurer, Turnbull and Scherzer. If we upgrade, it needs to be big time.
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 11 hours ago, Terminator said: What if we traded for Civale right now and use him for 6 weeks, and then we can trade him again at the deadline? Some penny pincher will take him and we can go after a bigger fish. Let Civale build up his trade value. Pitching with the Blue Jays bats heating up, gold glove defense behind him and rock solid BP, he'll rack up some wins and Atkins could likely squeeze another team for more at the trade deadline. 4D Chess!
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 Civale to the White Sox for Andrew Vaughn - interesting return! I wonder if a change of scenery will help Vaughn, or if he's a lost cause.
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 3 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: Civale to the White Sox for Andrew Vaughn - interesting return! I wonder if a change of scenery will help Vaughn, or if he's a lost cause. Is it funny or mean that Civale requested a trade and was immediately exiled to the White Sox? Or is it both?
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 46 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: Is it funny or mean that Civale requested a trade and was immediately exiled to the White Sox? Or is it both? I mean - he's not very good and bitched about losing his rotation spot. He should likely be thrilled to join the White Sox as it's one of the few teams in baseball he can remain a starter for the rest of the year.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 This is a weird trade. Vaughn makes 5.85M this year. I think he'll have 2 years of control left since he was demoted this year. But he's on his way to being non-tendered. Civale makes 8 mil this year and is a FA after the year. He projects a little better but he has diminishing stuff. Not sure what the point of the White Sox is in acquiring Civale but maybe they think they can flip him at the deadline for something? Civale might get you a 19 year old Dominican prospect at the deadline whereas Vaughn wouldn't? Spanky__99 1
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 14 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: I mean - he's not very good and bitched about losing his rotation spot. He should likely be thrilled to join the White Sox as it's one of the few teams in baseball he can remain a starter for the rest of the year. I wouldn't read too much into his stat line this year. The Brewers did a nice job of getting him back on track last season and he only has 22 IP in 2025.
Laika Community Moderator Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 35 minutes ago, Terminator said: This is a weird trade. Vaughn makes 5.85M this year. I think he'll have 2 years of control left since he was demoted this year. But he's on his way to being non-tendered. Civale makes 8 mil this year and is a FA after the year. He projects a little better but he has diminishing stuff. Not sure what the point of the White Sox is in acquiring Civale but maybe they think they can flip him at the deadline for something? Civale might get you a 19 year old Dominican prospect at the deadline whereas Vaughn wouldn't? The money was made even on it so that's not a factor. I think from the White Sox perspective, they have probably explored Vaughn trades and realize he has no value at all. Civale might be able to salvage a modicum of trade value between now and the deadline. From the Brewers perspective, perhaps they think the bat they can stick in AAA is a bit better for them than a surly Aaron Civale in long relief? They presently have Ashby and Hall in the pen and those guys have good stuff and can go 3 innings. So Civale is pointless. Terminator 1
Brownie19 Old-Timey Member Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 49 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said: I wouldn't read too much into his stat line this year. The Brewers did a nice job of getting him back on track last season and he only has 22 IP in 2025. I'm not sure I agree. He wasn't very good with the Brewers last year. His stats were propped up by a low BABIP and a high LOB%. He isn't very good, which is why he was just traded for Andrew Vaughn
Brock Beauchamp Site Manager Posted June 13, 2025 Posted June 13, 2025 4 minutes ago, Brownie19 said: I'm not sure I agree. He wasn't very good with the Brewers last year. His stats were propped up by a low BABIP and a high LOB%. He isn't very good, which is why he was just traded for Andrew Vaughn Maybe we're talking past each other a bit. I agree he isn't very good, but he's serviceable. I wouldn't want Aaron Civale starting a playoff game for me but I'd be very comfortable with him in the fifth rotation spot, maybe the fourth if I grimace a bit. Spanky__99 1
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted June 14, 2025 Posted June 14, 2025 11 hours ago, Brownie19 said: Civale to the White Sox for Andrew Vaughn - interesting return! I wonder if a change of scenery will help Vaughn, or if he's a lost cause. Holy, that was quick, totally missed this.
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