204Jays Verified Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 12 minutes ago, Jimcanuck said: You seem to be missing that MLB is a business first and foremost. Sorry - what part am I missing? How is signing top talent for the minimum not good business? Im probably missing context here.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 3 minutes ago, 204Jays said: Sorry - what part am I missing? How is signing top talent for the minimum not good business? Im probably missing context here. Jim is crab walking..... Spanky99 1
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 29 minutes ago, 204Jays said: Sorry - what part am I missing? How is signing top talent for the minimum not good business? Im probably missing context here. You are missing plenty. No one is arguing against signing Sasaki, least of all me. My theory is that since the Jays are up against the luxury tax threshold, other significant signings ($$) will only occur if Sasaki is signed. Ownership has always said more money is available if the Jays are fielding a contender. Which a Sasaki signing would do.
BTS Community Moderator Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 https://www.fangraphs.com/players/roki-sasaki/sa3025686/stats?position=P These projections are kind of bananas for a 23-year old who hasn't thrown a pitch in NA. Tied with Tyler Glasnow, Pablo Lopez, and Sonny Gray for 7th in baseball in projected fWAR.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 An 80 grade on Sasaki's splitter. It's very very rare to see an 80 on a pitch.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 50 minutes ago, 204Jays said: Sorry - what part am I missing? How is signing top talent for the minimum not good business? Im probably missing context here. You aren’t missing anything Jim is arguing that they won’t sign Bregman if they don’t secure Sasaki But you haven’t mentioned anything about anyone other than Sasaki
204Jays Verified Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 1 minute ago, L54 said: You aren’t missing anything Jim is arguing that they won’t sign Bregman if they don’t secure Sasaki But you haven’t mentioned anything about anyone other than Sasaki I mean, I kind of did. I said earlier that if we sign him - I think were immediately more appealing to the other FAs. I just dont see how a min. player affects your cap outlook - it shouldnt. You either have money for Vlad, Breg/Alonso/Santander + or you don't. Missing out on Sasaki shouldnt change those pursuits. Carlos Danger 1
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Just now, 204Jays said: I mean, I kind of did. I said earlier that if we sign him - I think were immediately more appealing to the other FAs. I just dont see how a min. player affects your cap outlook - it shouldnt. You either have money for Vlad, Breg/Alonso/Santander + or you don't. Missing out on Sasaki shouldnt change those pursuits. Then you again are missing the business aspect. Multiple teams, not just the Jays, have indicated more payroll is available when the team is a contender. Ergo, a Sasaki signing increases available payroll.
204Jays Verified Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 1 minute ago, Jimcanuck said: Then you again are missing the business aspect. Multiple teams, not just the Jays, have indicated more payroll is available when the team is a contender. Ergo, a Sasaki signing increases available payroll. Sure, that is probably true. I dont think we're disagreeing over much.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Just now, 204Jays said: I mean, I kind of did. I said earlier that if we sign him - I think were immediately more appealing to the other FAs. I just dont see how a min. player affects your cap outlook - it shouldnt. You either have money for Vlad, Breg/Alonso/Santander + or you don't. Missing out on Sasaki shouldnt change those pursuits. Well now I have to agree with Jim lol A Sasaki signing would influence your spending because you just added an ace at league minimum and you probably try and legit compete If you miss out on him it might make sense to stay away from long term commitments
204Jays Verified Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Just now, L54 said: Well now I have to agree with Jim lol A Sasaki signing would influence your spending because you just added an ace at league minimum and you probably try and legit compete If you miss out on him it might make sense to stay away from long term commitments He just introduced that argument ... "business impacts" are broad. Im sure there are alot of things that change when you sign any impact player. All I was arguing for was that doesnt change active/current FA pursuits. Does it enhance, yes... Ive said that too in other ways beyond a rising cap.
L54 Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Just now, 204Jays said: He just introduced that argument ... "business impacts" are broad. Im sure there are alot of things that change when you sign any impact player. All I was arguing for was that doesnt change active/current FA pursuits. Does it enhance, yes... Ive said that too in other ways beyond a rising cap. Right it won’t inhibit any signing
Blue balls Verified Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Tabarnack !!! 😮 It would be f***ing great to be THE preferred destination of a player who can basically choose wherever he can play.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 I'm not seeing any private jets that appear to be on a typical Tokyo to Toronto flight path, everyone panic Blue balls 1
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 You need to check Southern California airports.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 37 minutes ago, Jays24 said: Dodgers trolling the Jays again… JaysAllMighty 1
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted January 16, 2025 Posted January 16, 2025 Just now, Stangstag said: Dodgers trolling the Jays again… We might have to go to war with Japan if this happens again lol. JaysfaninFL 1
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 It's 9:20 am in Japan and 4:20 pm in California. 4:30pm -5 pm local sounds like a good time for an announcement. They can all go out for dinner afterwards to celebrate. It would be a prime news time in Japan also.
Laika Community Moderator Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Can't believe the Jays are going to do this. Finally. They get the Japanese guy.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 4 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: It's 9:20 am in Japan and 4:20 pm in California. 4:30pm -5 pm local sounds like a good time for an announcement. They can all go out for dinner afterwards to celebrate. It would be a prime news time in Japan also. Sounds good. I'll see everyone on Twitter in 5 minutes.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Sign Sasaki, trade Bassitt and sign Flaherty for roughly the same amount. Sasaki, Flaherty, Gausman, Berrios, Francis
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 6 hours ago, Jimcanuck said: We know the FO needed ownership permission to make offers to Ohtani and Soto. Is 200M for Bregman in the same vein. And did ownership make permission conditional on Sasaki signing? Giving the Jays a real shot at a highly successful season? Does Bregman have standing offers and waiting on Sasaki decision? Who knows? Bregman's market isn't there....he's not getting anywhere near 200 million. 6 and 156 was a fair offer from Houston. He might come in around there or less.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 There is one thing that gives me pause about the Japanese report that he is signing today. There have been no trades for international $$s announced yet. I, would assume that means the LAD and Padres are still trying the acquire max IFA $$... I don't think he would/can sign until the Team actually has an amount promised. Unless he is going to the Jays and is ok with $9.5 vs $10m....
jaysblue Old-Timey Member Posted January 17, 2025 Posted January 17, 2025 Checking Flight Radar for any private jets with a Japanese registration coming to YYZ!
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