General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2025)

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, G-Snarls said:

Wow that's great news!!!!!!

People are really paying attention 

If the Jays go on a run and win a series or 2, we'll see a huge jump in baseball registration across Ontario (at least - if not further abroad across Canada).

[Masterbather]

48 minutes ago, thatoneguy said:

That was literally one at-bat and he never played after then.

Freddie Freeman is a better comparison if there is one to be made at all. Personally, I think this whole conversation is a bit tin-foil hatted.

Tin foil hatted to suggest free agency is playing a role? 

There is nothing more based in absolute reality. People get too romantic about their athletes, there's no question these conversations are happening between him, his agent and his family, including his dad. To think otherwise is not living in reality. 

[Masterbather]

24 minutes ago, Omar said:

Bo is slow when healthy. What happens if he gets on base as a DH?  Save him as an off the bench bat late in the game and then pinch run for him if he gets a hit. If he plays the Jays will be deploying him once a game. That's it. 

What happens when Kirk gets on base? What happens when Stanton gets on base? You deal with it because you love the bat. If he has to be pinch run, you do it later in the game.

[Spanky__99]

14 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

What happens when Kirk gets on base? What happens when Stanton gets on base? You deal with it because you love the bat. If he has to be pinch run, you do it later in the game.

You know he has PCL strain, right?

[Omar]

17 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

What happens when Kirk gets on base? What happens when Stanton gets on base? You deal with it because you love the bat. If he has to be pinch run, you do it later in the game.

Kirk plays a key defensive position and Stanton's legs don't figure into the  game if he is hitting bombs.  Bo isn't going to be legging out doubles in the gap.  Big difference.

[Masterbather]

6 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

You know he has PCL strain, right?

Yeah, I know. It hurts I'm sure.

[Masterbather]

5 minutes ago, Omar said:

Kirk plays a key defensive position and Stanton's legs don't figure into the  game if he is hitting bombs.  Bo isn't going to be legging out doubles in the gap.  Big difference.

I think they will take whatever they can out of his bat. He's one of the few guys in all of baseball that can hit good pitching, and the one thing you're going to see in the postseason is a lot of good pitching.

[Spanky__99]

10 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Yeah, I know. It hurts I'm sure.

It needs to heal before he can do anything, he hasn't even been running yet and hitting off a tee with light throwing. It's more serious than a pain factor, it's about strength and stability. He needs to get cleared first, when that is who knows, hopefully we hear something good by the DS, but it's not about pain, it's about what damage he can do to the rest of his knee, the PCL is the the strongest ligament in the knee, if that has a tear, it leaves the  ACL and MCL open to injury. 

[Spanky__99]

38 minutes ago, Masterbather said:

Tin foil hatted to suggest free agency is playing a role? 

There is nothing more based in absolute reality. People get too romantic about their athletes, there's no question these conversations are happening between him, his agent and his family, including his dad. To think otherwise is not living in reality. 

You forgot Surgeons and Specialists... just sayin'

[Masterbather]

11 minutes ago, Spanky__99 said:

You forgot Surgeons and Specialists... just sayin'

But they've said no surgery and no structural damage. 

So it's probably pain and swelling 

[Spanky__99]

4 hours ago, Masterbather said:

But they've said no surgery and no structural damage. 

So it's probably pain and swelling 

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcl+strain+recovery+time&rlz=1CAKDUD_enCA937&oq=pcl&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggCEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMgcIABAAGI8CMhAIARAuGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEMg4IAhBFGCcYOxiABBiKBTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDINCAUQABiDARixAxiABDIHCAYQABiABDIQCAcQABiDARixAxiABBiKBTIQCAgQABiDARixAxiABBiKBTIHCAkQABiPAtIBCjE4Njk0ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBQ3kP0sXaFFR8QUN5D9LF2hRUQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Masterbather]

2 hours ago, Spanky__99 said:

https://www.google.com/search?q=pcl+strain+recovery+time&rlz=1CAKDUD_enCA937&oq=pcl&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDggCEEUYJxg7GIAEGIoFMgcIABAAGI8CMhAIARAuGMcBGLEDGNEDGIAEMg4IAhBFGCcYOxiABBiKBTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDINCAUQABiDARixAxiABDIHCAYQABiABDIQCAcQABiDARixAxiABBiKBTIQCAgQABiDARixAxiABBiKBTIHCAkQABiPAtIBCjE4Njk0ajBqMTWoAgiwAgHxBQ3kP0sXaFFR8QUN5D9LF2hRUQ&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

How could there be no structural damage if there's any sort of real significant tear?

I consider a tear to be structural damage but maybe they're just playing with words here.

[mphenhef]

13 hours ago, Brownie19 said:

If the Jays go on a run and win a series or 2, we'll see a huge jump in baseball registration across Ontario (at least - if not further abroad across Canada).

you can see the results in the bump that Steve Nash caused in basketball right now with all the Canadians in the league.  I believe there was another bump after the Raps won it all in 2019 too.

[mphenhef]

13 hours ago, Masterbather said:

Tin foil hatted to suggest free agency is playing a role? 

There is nothing more based in absolute reality. People get too romantic about their athletes, there's no question these conversations are happening between him, his agent and his family, including his dad. To think otherwise is not living in reality. 

If anything, going into free agency he would want to get back and show teams he is fully healthy. 

[mphenhef]

15 hours ago, Perfect Game said:

If you build it, they will come.

 

To put this in perspective, Sunday night baseball on ESPN averaged 1.83 million viewers.  The peak as of late August was an average of 2.572 million viewers for a Yanks/Red  Sox game.  These are truly some crazy numbers for baseball.    Games on Fox averaged 2.04 million viewers

 

Yankees average just under 300K viewers per game on YES.  Their TV contract paid them $143 million in 2022 and that's for only roughly 80% of their games.

 

The Jays average audience this year for the full season was 906 800 per game.

Main Street Sports, the broadcaster for 8 teams, averaged 1.5 million a night...cumulative for 8 teams.

The winning Bluejays are a huge moneymaker for Rogers.

 

Sources

https://espnpressroom.com/us/press-releases/2025/08/sunday-night-baseball-presented-by-capital-one-boston-red-sox-vs-new-york-yankees-draws-espns-second-largest-audience-of-mlb-season-2572000-viewers/#:~:text=the New York Yankees%2C drew,with 2%2C572%2C000 viewers on average.

https://www.morningstar.com/news/marketwatch/20250930105/major-league-baseball-viewership-spiked-21-as-four-players-topped-the-50-home-run-mark-for-the-first-time-in-decades

https://www.yesnetwork.com/news/yankees-on-yes-total-viewership-up-5-year-over-year

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/record-breaking-tv-ratings-blue-203808976.html

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/each-teams-local-broadcasting-arrangement.html

[keggy]

6 hours ago, Masterbather said:

How could there be no structural damage if there's any sort of real significant tear?

If somebody said that they are lying.

[hanton]

ALDS on FOX schedule

thinking ahead here but Crochet could get gm2 and gm5 both on 4 days rest

American League

Game 1: Saturday, Oct. 4 (TBD, FOX)
Game 2: Sunday, Oct. 5 (TBD, FOX)
Game 3: Tuesday, Oct. 7 (TBD, FOX)
Game 4: Wednesday, Oct. 8 (TBD, FOX)*
Game 5: Friday, Oct. 10 (TBD, FOX)*

 

[Laika]

A sprained knee ligament IS STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

Sprain means torn or stretched out. 

These things get lost in communication. What everybody probably means is "there is no structural damage which may require surgery." 

[Laika]

3 minutes ago, hanton said:

ALDS on FOX schedule

thinking ahead here but Crochet could get gm2 and gm5 both on 4 days rest

American League

Game 1: Saturday, Oct. 4 (TBD, FOX)
Game 2: Sunday, Oct. 5 (TBD, FOX)
Game 3: Tuesday, Oct. 7 (TBD, FOX)
Game 4: Wednesday, Oct. 8 (TBD, FOX)*
Game 5: Friday, Oct. 10 (TBD, FOX)*

 

So the plan is to win it in 4 or less 

[Laika]

Crochet, Chapman, and Whitlock are great but the rest of that Boston staff can be handled. There are a couple of wild cards in Early and Tolle. 

The Yankees team is much better and deeper offensively and on the pitching side. Fried-Rodon-Schlittler-Warren/Gil is a playoff quality top 4. And I think the Yankees have a deeper pen (even though they have had some hilarious flops and Weaver/Williams are choke artists). 

"Be careful what you wish for" - shut up mom I want to face Boston. 

[SeranthonySantander]

Every time Crochet has throw more than 110 pitches this season, he has given up 5 ER the next start.  I'm not worried.

[Brownie19]

I find it so bizarre that Bo would sprain a ligament from sliding into a catcher's shin pad.  Maybe I didn't see it up close or something.  Did I miss something?

[Laika]

He slid like an idiot 

Knee was bent so his patella ligament was exposed and it went straight into the kneepad of Wells, who was blocking the plate 

[Brownie19]

37 minutes ago, Laika said:

He slid like an idiot 

Knee was bent so his patella ligament was exposed and it went straight into the kneepad of Wells, who was blocking the plate 

It just seems abnormal to strain a ligament when your knees are bent like that - I assume it was caused by blunt force?  Typically see it happen with hyperextension or when the leg twists or buckles unless I'm way off.

If he slide properly, with his leg extended and that leg went straight into the kneepads, then I'd expect that would expose you to a potential ligament strain a lot more often than sliding with your knees bent.

[hanton]

58 minutes ago, Laika said:

He slid like an idiot 

Knee was bent so his patella ligament was exposed and it went straight into the kneepad of Wells, who was blocking the plate 

yea, as if he's never played the game before, he's not athletic

[hanton]

...will miss that bat though.  I still rather him Bo than not

[PitaBaby]

2 hours ago, Laika said:

A sprained knee ligament IS STRUCTURAL DAMAGE.

Sprain means torn or stretched out. 

These things get lost in communication. What everybody probably means is "there is no structural damage which may require surgery." 

Yes, it is 'structural damage', but when it's mild you usually do not require surgery whatsoever. 

Maybe Bo can sit on the bench and eat ice cream and hotdogs while the Jays win the World Series without him. 

[Laika]

30 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

It just seems abnormal to strain a ligament when your knees are bent like that - I assume it was caused by blunt force?  Typically see it happen with hyperextension or when the leg twists or buckles unless I'm way off.

If he slide properly, with his leg extended and that leg went straight into the kneepads, then I'd expect that would expose you to a potential ligament strain a lot more often than sliding with your knees bent.

Yeah it was weird. When I saw it live I thought he might have broken his tib or fib.

Probably force on the tibia downward stretched out his knee ligament(s)?

That or maybe it's actually a tendon strain, blunt force on the patella tendon while the knee is bent seems plausible  

[glory]

If anyone here happens to be a little league coach and wants to show kids how NOT to slide into a base, then that Bo slide into home should be study material. I don't recall seeing a slide like that. Maybe it's happened before, but I certainly don't remember it. 

[Laika]

2 minutes ago, glory said:

If anyone here happens to be a little league coach and wants to show kids how NOT to slide into a base, then that Bo slide into home should be study material. I don't recall seeing a slide like that. Maybe it's happened before, but I certainly don't remember it. 

He got caught in between decisions I think

Went for a normal slide with left leg extended, but saw Wells moving to block the plate entirely and curled his left leg up defensively, on instinct 

It's was a horrible slide. Would have been better to just try to run through the plate and if you get tagged, whatever. 

Really, it's revolting that a catcher is even allowed to do that. Other than whiny Jays fans nobody complained about the plate block. It should not be part of the rules for a catcher to receive the ball and then block home plate - and if it is then they should be fair game again!