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[Spanky__99]

 

[mphenhef]

10 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Void if any sort of evidence, this doesn't really mean much to me.  Sorry.  Dante also left the Jays in Feb 2022.  I wonder if the abilities of the players on the team have anything to do with the performance of the offense...

Unfortunately, I don't have a way to produce any evidence of this and I'm fully aware it could be confirmation bias, but I can't tell you how many times that offence would conveniently break out of a slump when Dante would be in the dugout or visiting the team.  Sadly without being able to figure out when he was with the team I can't even begin to look at those numbers.

[Laika]

53 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

I thought so.  This either goes to show you how quickly hitting coaches can go from being one of the best in the sport to pure sh*t - unworthy of a job (much like Martinez).  Or it shows you how little impact they have.

 

I was looking at the Rangers depth chart and just not sure what even did wrong. Adolis and Burger are hackers. Semien is pretty old now. Leody has always been a fringe bat. 

Seager, Langford, Jung, Heim, Smith are all hitting fine. 

Evan Carter was probably just overhyped and never had the batted ball stats to be a star but he could still be very good, who knows. 

I mean they signed Kevin Pillar and are playing him so that's not on the hitting coach lol

[BB17]

1 hour ago, Spanky99 said:

 

Williams has been a disaster. They can't keep pitching him in leverage at this point.

[Orgfiller]

1 hour ago, Laika said:

I was looking at the Rangers depth chart and just not sure what even did wrong. Adolis and Burger are hackers. Semien is pretty old now. Leody has always been a fringe bat. 

Seager, Langford, Jung, Heim, Smith are all hitting fine. 

Evan Carter was probably just overhyped and never had the batted ball stats to be a star but he could still be very good, who knows. 

I mean they signed Kevin Pillar and are playing him so that's not on the hitting coach lol

Evan Carter might have chronic back issues so I think that's less on the developmental/hitting approach side of things, although he probably was overhyped to begin with.

[Brownie19]

33 minutes ago, Orgfiller said:

Evan Carter might have chronic back issues so I think that's less on the developmental/hitting approach side of things, although he probably was overhyped to begin with.

I had not heard that - thanks for sharing.  Really too bad for a kid who burst onto the scene in 2023.  I can't imagine how difficult that would be - playing ball all your life, chasing the dream and then getting a taste of it, with huge success, only for it to all come crashing down.  At least he has a ring I guess?

[BTS]

Remember when the Dodgers gave Conforto 17M and everyone said it made no sense? Well he’s at -0.5 WAR and a butcher in the outfield everyday, and it still makes no sense. 

[Terminator]

 

I can only assume that Ross Atkins will be all over this after Urethra gets lit up tonight

[Stangstag]

16 hours ago, Terminator said:

 

I can only assume that Ross Atkins will be all over this after Urethra gets lit up tonight

Only a matter of time before our entire roster is made up of Cleveland scraps

[mphenhef]

I can't say I love the fact a guy who shut the Jays lineup down is DFA'ed two weeks later.  It's frustrating watching every s***** pitcher the Jays struggle against get lit up by other teams (gio last night)

[Omar]

23 hours ago, Laika said:

I was looking at the Rangers depth chart and just not sure what even did wrong. Adolis and Burger are hackers. Semien is pretty old now. Leody has always been a fringe bat. 

Seager, Langford, Jung, Heim, Smith are all hitting fine. 

Evan Carter was probably just overhyped and never had the batted ball stats to be a star but he could still be very good, who knows. 

I mean they signed Kevin Pillar and are playing him so that's not on the hitting coach lol

Semien has looked horrid. Like black hole horrid. Don't know why the hitting coach should be fired for what looks to be turning into one of the worst contracts in MLB. Semien got paid and now he's an aging asset. 

But flags fly forever right? So the juice was probably worth the squeeze. 

[Omar]

19 hours ago, Terminator said:

 

I can only assume that Ross Atkins will be all over this after Urethra gets lit up tonight

Wouldn't be surprised. At this point Atkins is like a guy dropping coins into a slot machine and cranking the handle in hope.  It a terrible look for the franchise. Shapiro has to be raising an eyebrow at this point. 

[mphenhef]

On 5/6/2025 at 10:44 AM, Spanky99 said:

 

Bluejays: "Hold my beer"

[G-Snarls]

Pirates have made the first managerial firing of the season 

Derek Shelton gone after ~ 5 seasons there

[Terminator]

1 hour ago, G-Snarls said:

Pirates have made the first managerial firing of the season 

Derek Shelton gone after ~ 5 seasons there

Would be nice if we followed suit

[BTS]

The Orioles are 13-23 with a -69 run differential. Their average run differential PER GAME is almost -2. 

[G-Snarls]

18 minutes ago, BTS said:

The Orioles are 13-23 with a -69 run differential. Their average run differential PER GAME is almost -2. 

s*** starting rotation plus underperforming/injured star position players

It's ugly

 

Edit: I'd take way more satisfaction in it if we were over 500, but we suck too

[jaysblue]

1 hour ago, BTS said:

The Orioles are 13-23 with a -69 run differential. Their average run differential PER GAME is almost -2. 

Hopefully you didn't stream Charlie Morton again. 

[BTS]

29 minutes ago, jaysblue said:

Hopefully you didn't stream Charlie Morton again. 

I’ve picked him up like 4 times this year, but haven’t used him since the first two starts of the season. Kept hoping he’d show signs of turning it around but I don’t think it’s happening 

[Terminator]

[G-Snarls]

15 minutes ago, Terminator said:

Trade for him and let him play 3B for the next 10 f'n years 

At least he can mash

[Terminator]

The quotes from Devers in that link are gold lol

 

[Omar]

 

 

 

[Terminator]

The Rockies are about to drop to 6-31 on the season after losing both games of today's double header by a combined score of 21-3 (and counting).

[BB17]

6 hours ago, G-Snarls said:

s*** starting rotation plus underperforming/injured star position players

It's ugly

 

Edit: I'd take way more satisfaction in it if we were over 500, but we suck too

As sad as it is their situation is much more favourable than the Blue Jays.

[Pendleton]

13 hours ago, Terminator said:

 

Makes $30M+ per year for the next eight years and is basically refusing to do part of his job, what a world 

[Brownie19]

1 hour ago, Pendleton said:

 

Makes $30M+ per year for the next eight years and is basically refusing to do part of his job, what a world 

Very odd situation.  My initial reaction is he's a spoiled brat.  Do what you're asked to do to help the team - especially when you're clearly a below average defender at 3rd.

But - I do think you have to understand the communication before you draw that conclusion.  The team needs to articulate the plan to Devers and gain his support/respect.  Then if they want to change the plan, they again need to speak with him and help him understand why it's changed.  That's what leadership does.

If they've done that and he still refuses and then runs his mouth to the media, then f*ck him!  

[Laika]

9 minutes ago, Brownie19 said:

Very odd situation.  My initial reaction is he's a spoiled brat.  Do what you're asked to do to help the team - especially when you're clearly a below average defender at 3rd.

But - I do think you have to understand the communication before you draw that conclusion.  The team needs to articulate the plan to Devers and gain his support/respect.  Then if they want to change the plan, they again need to speak with him and help him understand why it's changed.  That's what leadership does.

If they've done that and he still refuses and then runs his mouth to the media, then f*ck him!  

Really seems like a bit of both. 

Chaim Bloom told Devers he was the 3B long term. Breslow made a decision to just not honour that non-contractual term, 

Then in spring they tell him to put his glove away and just be the DH. Maybe Devers' initial reaction to the Bregman signing being childish was part of that communication happening, like they felt they had to appease him in some way, but it's still pretty short-sighted to not have the guy on board as your backup 3B/1B. 

[BTS]

15 hours ago, Terminator said:

This seems like the kind of situation where the organization shouldn't roll over. Devers shouldn't get to decide whether or not he plays 1B. 

[Laika]

They should just trade him to Toronto at this point