GDT: 2/3 Chicago White Sox @ Toronto Blue Jays (7:07pm et)

[Spanky99]

No respect for the gdt streak, huh?

 

Ok, so that's how it's gonna be.

 

Omar, it's time friendo!

[jaysblue]

The dude had one minor injury to a lat muscle that has him on track to miss approximately 5 weeks. If that's some sort of massive arbiter of doom to you then feel free to continue to stand on the street corner and clang away on your doomsday bell.

 

Still defending the Green deal I see. You and some others will never let it go.

[jaysblue]

Heyo... real baseball talk, who knew?

 

Yeah better than just reading "lol" posts for sure!

[jaysblue]

I'm honestly appreciating the Manoah comeback. Also Varsho is exciting to watch when he's going.

 

Great to see Manoah looking good on the mound. Hope he keeps it up and provides the Jays some valuable innings.

 

Varsho is an easy guy to root for. If he makes some improvements offensively, he has the opportunity to be a stud. Would love to see him put together a .250/40 HR/25-30 SB type of season along with his defense.

[BigCecil]

Hazel doesn't move around too much.

 

Yep. She is a big user of that volteran she is pimping. Too sore to move much.

[Spanky99]

Yeah better than just reading "lol" posts for sure!

 

Listen, f*** you douchebag, better than reading regurgitated information plenty say prior to you in a f***ing essay, toerag.

 

Everytime I lay s*** out for you, you are a ghost.

[Terminator]

Man this board hates Chad Green lol

 

It's like logging on to find 20 Terminators ranting about Cavan Biggio on a daily basis

[max silver]

Still defending the Green deal I see. You and some others will never let it go.

 

Why do I need to "let it go" exactly? I didn't bring the topic up in the first place, and I simply joined in the discussion stating it was a bad deal and voiced my opinion it was far too early to pass that type of judgement. Stop rushing to judgement before you obtain the relevant facts first.

[L54]

Yeah better than just reading "lol" posts for sure!

 

[max silver]

Yeah better than just reading "lol" posts for sure!

 

Your steady stream of self serving I told you so posts is real cream of the crop material.

[o2cui2i]

Yep. She is a big user of that volteran she is pimping. Too sore to move much.

 

what does Harrison Ford/Indiana Jones say.... "it's not the years, it's the mileage"

[Masterbather]

Man this board hates Chad Green lol

 

It's like logging on to find 20 Terminators ranting about Cavan Biggio on a daily basis

 

I liked the Green deal, if it ends up not working out so be it, it's not going to kill us. Could still end up being a good deal. Either way it's near the bottom of the list as far as concerns go.

[o2cui2i]

just finished watching last night's game. They played pretty well, the White Sox that is, the jays took SUCK to a level I didn't think I'd see this year. Well, I was at hoping I wouldn't see it.

 

I'll watch tonight's game tomorrow, without commercial, with the commentary muted and see if I make it to the 3rd inning without sounding like I'm suffering Roid Rage.

 

 

at this point, are we hoping they sell off everything of value, and actually have 3 years of proper suck ball, to be able to load up on prospects, building from the ground up? The whole tinker with the lineup built around Bichette and Vlad has lost it's ability to trick anyone into thing there is a possibility of a good team in the near future.

[BigCecil]

Man this board hates Chad Green lol

 

It's like logging on to find 20 Terminators ranting about Cavan Biggio on a daily basis

 

I think its the opposite now and then. Most were in favor at the time if you look back at that thread when they exercised the option, and still are. There were a few of us conscientious objectors at the time. I thought it was IL risky and a lot for a reliever with their volatility.

 

I do agree that it was $10.5M AAV of the $50M AAV Jays invested in this off season - not the end of the world. There is time if he stays healthy, and has his stuff, to be of value.

[Spanky99]

 

You sir, are an invalid. I Said Good Day!

[Brownie19]

Listen, f*** you douchebag, better than reading regurgitated information plenty say prior to you in a f***ing essay, toerag.

 

Everytime I lay s*** out for you, you are a ghost.

 

Why do I need to "let it go" exactly? I didn't bring the topic up in the first place, and I simply joined in the discussion stating it was a bad deal and voiced my opinion it was far too early to pass that type of judgement. Stop rushing to judgement before you obtain the relevant facts first.

 

Just add him to your ignore list. It's glorious.

[Spanky99]

Just add him to your ignore list. It's glorious.

 

gHoSt... lol

[jaysblue]

Your steady stream of self serving I told you so posts is real cream of the crop material.

 

Well, it's quite easy when you guys are shills for Atkins and this front office.

[jaysblue]

Listen, f*** you douchebag, better than reading regurgitated information plenty say prior to you in a f***ing essay, toerag.

 

Everytime I lay s*** out for you, you are a ghost.

 

lol

[connorp]

I liked the Green deal, if it ends up not working out so be it, it's not going to kill us. Could still end up being a good deal. Either way it's near the bottom of the list as far as concerns go.

 

Yeah, I’ve been on the record for it always as well. You need to hedge your bets against RP volatility if you’re a playoff team and can grab some guys that have stronger chances to be good, if you didn’t develop them. Which Jays didn’t. If Jays crumble and aren’t a playoff team, this year, next year, whatever…his salary really isn’t hurting anything but the P&L. Not much downside to the deal. They needed offense but that doesn’t mean you just forget the other stuff that can make a huge difference in a short series

[connorp]

You can’t even talk about Chad Green until you first address the s*** show signing that was IKF. What in the even f*** that was, normal people don’t know. Then trying to buy offense from a guy Tom Brady’s age. Lots of stuff before you get to CG

[Brownie19]

Yeah, I’ve been on the record for it always as well. You need to hedge your bets against RP volatility if you’re a playoff team and can grab some guys that have stronger chances to be good, if you didn’t develop them. Which Jays didn’t. If Jays crumble and aren’t a playoff team, this year, next year, whatever…his salary really isn’t hurting anything but the P&L. Not much downside to the deal. They needed offense but that doesn’t mean you just forget the other stuff that can make a huge difference in a short series

 

high leverage RPers also tend to fetch good returns at the trade deadline. Every team is looking for another lights out arm. If he comes back healthy and pitching well, he'll be highly coveted.

[Jays24]

You can’t even talk about Chad Green until you first address the s*** show signing that was IKF. What in the even f*** that was, normal people don’t know. Then trying to buy offense from a guy Tom Brady’s age. Lots of stuff before you get to CG

 

Most people wanted us just to use the money from KK/IKF towards a guy like Teo. If it took a damn 2/3 deal then you friggin do it.

 

At least you could applaud the front office for attempting to address a MAJOR weakness. It's what has most of the fanbase pissed off at the moment because it was so foreseeable

[glory]

Between Green, KK, Turner, and IKF, I think the Green signing was the most sensible of the group. Even if it failed at least there was enough upside to potentially make it worth it. Literally no upside in the other moves, probably more downside given how much playing time those 3 figure to get regardless of results.

[Spanky99]

lol

 

That's weak.

[jaysblue]

Yeah, I’ve been on the record for it always as well. You need to hedge your bets against RP volatility if you’re a playoff team and can grab some guys that have stronger chances to be good, if you didn’t develop them. Which Jays didn’t. If Jays crumble and aren’t a playoff team, this year, next year, whatever…his salary really isn’t hurting anything but the P&L. Not much downside to the deal. They needed offense but that doesn’t mean you just forget the other stuff that can make a huge difference in a short series

 

I had no issue with the Green deal, though I wouldn't consider it a "bargain" like some others on here were raving about this past offseason. If Green stays healthy and returns to his prior form where he was a 1.5 - 2 WAR arm, fantastic. Obviously, there was a good amount of risk taken given that he's missed significant time and returning from TJS for a 30+ year old reliever.

 

As well, teams take chances on high risk/reward type BP arms all the time, but they don't cost $10.5M. Look at the Red Sox signing Liam Hendriks this past offseason and when healthy he was a superior arm to Green.

[jaysblue]

high leverage RPers also tend to fetch good returns at the trade deadline. Every team is looking for another lights out arm. If he comes back healthy and pitching well, he'll be highly coveted.

 

Coming back healthy is the big question. Spending time on the IL for a good chunk in the early going of this season already, now you see where the risk was with him?

[BigCecil]

You can’t even talk about Chad Green until you first address the s*** show signing that was IKF. What in the even f*** that was, normal people don’t know. Then trying to buy offense from a guy Tom Brady’s age. Lots of stuff before you get to CG

 

Through 48 gms, IKF has been the top WAR contributor of the $50M AAV group they invested in this off season JT, KK, Y-Rod, Vogelbach, Green.

[Spanky99]

Through 48 gms, IKF has been the top WAR contributor of the $50M AAV group they invested in this off season JT, KK, Y-Rod, Vogelbach, Green.

 

You'll be okay, BC. I swear it.

[BigCecil]

You'll be okay, BC. I swear it.

 

LOL. Fk me this team!!! Death of me. I live and die way too much. I'm at games 3rd and 4th June if you head down lets at least say hi. Ill let you know our seats. Hudson is with me and my brother. Got a box on 5th for corp hosting event.