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[G-Snarls]

I think I read the other day that if the Stros' were to sign Hader it'd mark the first time they've went over the tax threshold, that's wild considering all their success. Dude had a 2.6 RA9-WAR last season, lol. He is worth every penny.

 

Especially for a team that came up one game short of making the WS

 

And it made sure the Rangers didn't get him

[Spanky__99]

An example of misusing WAR to determine market value. They’re increasing their chances of post-season success. Like a cherry on top. We got IKF though, so joke is on them.

 

Lets get this c-poop algorithm up, bro...

[RobinThicc]

Franco a full blown pedophile

 

Enjoy jail

[Carlos Danger]

 

Looks like they had sex when she was 14 and he was 21

 

Where does it say his age at the time? I looked at the X and didn't see it?

[L54]

THE GIRL, now 15 years old, met Franco online, according to prosecutors. According to the documents, he "took her from her home" in Puerto Plata, on the northern coast of the Dominican Republic, on Dec. 9, 2022, for two days. During that time, they had sex twice, prosecutors said, and started a relationship that lasted four months.

[connorp]

Lets get this c-poop algorithm up, bro...

 

I don’t need to. Look at the contract. Even the ninja of mlb, AA, decided to give a closer $16m at 35yo next year or whatever he is

[Spanky__99]

I'm talking about your comment with fWAR, it's far better to measure a reliever using bWAR, RA9-WAR, SIERA and RE24, K%, K/BB, etc to correlate what you have in a reliever and expected success, imo.

[wamco]

Just cultural differences that we wouldn’t understand between a 14 year old mamacita and a young man who was aged only three years out of high school

 

Or a 21 year old could be a college graduate like me (late birthday). It’s gross

[connorp]

I'm talking about your comment with fWAR, it's far better to measure a reliever using bWAR, RA9-WAR, SIERA and RE24, K%, K/BB, etc to correlate what you have in a reliever and expected success, imo.

 

I don’t know how any of that is relevant to my point. Shove it up your keester old timer.

Hockey forum is in OT. You, Jim, and Laila can all ice skate your way over there

[Stangstag]

THE GIRL, now 15 years old, met Franco online, according to prosecutors. According to the documents, he "took her from her home" in Puerto Plata, on the northern coast of the Dominican Republic, on Dec. 9, 2022, for two days. During that time, they had sex twice, prosecutors said, and started a relationship that lasted four months.

 

Jesus Christ

[L54]

Or a 21 year old could be a college graduate like me (late birthday). It’s gross

 

Same here. I had my A.A. and A.S. by the time I was 21 lol

[L54]

Jesus Christ

 

Ya big yikes!!

[Dick_Pole]

Or a 21 year old could be a college graduate like me (late birthday). ItÂ’s gross

 

There was a guy in my high school who was 20 lol. So it can work the other way around.

[BTS]

Robert Stephenson 3/33 to LAA

[Grant77]

Robert Stephenson 3/33 to Boston

 

Anaheim?

[BTS]

Anaheim?

 

Same thing

[Spanky__99]

Robert Stephenson 3/33 to LAA

 

Yeah, so I'm happy about the Green extension.

[Terminator]

Yeah, so I'm happy about the Green extension.

 

No kidding, I liked Stephenson as sort of a late bloomer slightly under the radar type for 2 years 15 mil or something but 33 mil is insane. Chad Green looking like a bargain.

[Stangstag]

I wonder how Pressly feels about being bumped down the depth chart after 3 years as an effective closer for them

 

Houston may very well use Hader as their Andrew Miller. Comes in to any tough situations, but mainly kept as a setup man with Pressly the main 9th inning guy.

[Terminator]

Houston may very well use Hader as their Andrew Miller. Comes in to any tough situations, but mainly kept as a setup man with Pressly the main 9th inning guy.

 

Hader doesn't do the whole fireman thing

[Laika]

Robert Stephenson contract kinda wild isn't it?

[Pendleton]

Robert Stephenson contract kinda wild isn't it?

 

Dude was basically untouchable for the last half of the season, easily worth the money if he pitches like that. But that's a massive "if" given his prior track record, 33M definitely is a huge guarantee for a veteran reliever with next to no consistent track record of success.

[connorp]

Franco a full blown pedophile

 

Enjoy jail

 

I’ll try not to carry on as Dick Pole kind of acted as the voice of reason to lay out to you what a pedo is. What Franco did is also clearly defined

 

Jailbait is slang[1][2] for a person who is younger than the legal age of consent for sexual activity and usually appears older, with the implication that a person above the age of consent might find them sexually attractive.[3] The term jailbait is derived from the fact that engaging in sexual activity with someone who is under the age of consent is classified as statutory rape[3] or by an equivalent term.[4]

 

Not only physically, but the girl was also well advanced in street years. She basically shook Wander down in the end. He was looking for love and control, she wanted to get paid. That’s not victim blaming as she was 14 and he’s done now. But it wasn’t like an R Kelly situation where she’s locked in the basement under mind control. Seems Franco never could get her under his spell, as she was with another guy while he’s sending highly incriminating texts telling her to come back.

 

Anyways, He took the bait. He’s likely going to jail. Pedo is a sickness that never goes away.

[deanmike]

Pedos are useless wastes of the Earth's oxygen. They should all do right by the rest of the Earth's oxygen breathers by hanging themselves/playing in traffic.

[Pendleton]

I’ll try not to carry on as Dick Pole kind of acted as the voice of reason to lay out to you what a pedo is. What Franco did is also clearly defined

 

Jailbait is slang[1][2] for a person who is younger than the legal age of consent for sexual activity and usually appears older, with the implication that a person above the age of consent might find them sexually attractive.[3] The term jailbait is derived from the fact that engaging in sexual activity with someone who is under the age of consent is classified as statutory rape[3] or by an equivalent term.[4]

 

Not only physically, but the girl was also well advanced in street years. She basically shook Wander down in the end. He was looking for love and control, she wanted to get paid. That’s not victim blaming as she was 14 and he’s done now. But it wasn’t like an R Kelly situation where she’s locked in the basement under mind control. Seems Franco never could get her under his spell, as she was with another guy while he’s sending highly incriminating texts telling her to come back.

 

Anyways, He took the bait. He’s likely going to jail. Pedo is a sickness that never goes away.

 

Only a true creep would be here analyzing how physically developed the fourteen year old girl was. You truly are a sick, twisted f***, and you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.

[L54]

“That’s not victim blaming as she was 14 and he’s done now. But it wasn’t like an R Kelly situation where she’s locked in the basement under mind control.

 

Seems Franco never could get her under his spell”

 

So it’s a problem if they’re under mind control, and then admit the only difference is that Franco couldn’t successfully groom and control this 14 year old

[L54]

Only a true creep would be here analyzing how physically developed the fourteen year old girl was. You truly are a sick, twisted f***, and you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near children.

 

I don’t know why he feels the continual need to come to Wander’s defense

[jaysblue]

No kidding, I liked Stephenson as sort of a late bloomer slightly under the radar type for 2 years 15 mil or something but 33 mil is insane. Chad Green looking like a bargain.

 

Difference is Stephenson was healthy for a majority of last season pitching 52.1 innings with a 13.24 K/9 and 0.9 WAR. He really was one of the top relievers in baseball after he was traded to the Rays. Green only pitched 12 innings at the big league level last season. So now it's like Green is getting 2 years at $21M with the options kicking in. Not sure he would have got more AAV or years on the free agent market given his age and him coming back from injury. Think he's being paid at fair market value and wouldn't really consider him a huge "bargain." More upside with Green given he had better seasons when he was with the Yankees, but it's not a guarantee he returns to be 1.5 - 2 WAR reliever.

 

Agree, wouldn't feel comfortable giving Stephenson $33M over 3 years given his age and spotty track record. Seems like every late-inning reliever now is getting $10-12M AAV.

[jaysblue]

Yeah, so I'm happy about the Green extension.

 

Yeah same here obviously.

 

I don't think the extension is really a "bargain" though. If Green was a FA, I think he still gets around $10-12M per season over two years (so between $20-24M), which seems like the market value for late inning relievers. Given his age, and injury history, not sure a team would go more than 2 years but who knows.

[jaysblue]

Speaking of veteran elite relievers, Liam Hendriks is a FA. What are the chances he returns back into top form? Is he worth rolling the dice on? E.g. two year deal or similar type of contract the Jays gave Green last offseason?