General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2024)

[Frenchsoup]

Just trying to put myself in Ross's shoes for a day, boy it's fun

[Marew]

That’s what I thought. Not easy being a GM.

[Rusty_Savage]

What would Kim cost from SD? He's an expiring contract so it shouldn't be too exorbitant. Was an above average fielder at both 3rd and 2nd.

 

I know no one wants Cronenworth but he's projected for 2.0 WAR from steamer for next year. Get the Padres to eat 11M, which basically makes it a six year contract which is more palatable and including him should cut the cost down drastically

 

No idea what it would cost

 

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[max silver]

Where have you been the last 5 years? You can’t talk to people like that anymore.

 

BJMB rules are a lot different than those you would expect to see followed in general society. Although general decorum in society as a whole has gone down the shitter in recent years as well.

[Frenchsoup]

What would Kim cost from SD? He's an expiring contract so it shouldn't be too exorbitant. Was an above average fielder at both 3rd and 2nd.

 

I know no one wants Cronenworth but he's projected for 2.0 WAR from steamer for next year. Get the Padres to eat 11M, which basically makes it a six year contract which is more palatable and including him should cut the cost down drastically

 

No idea what it would cost

 

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Crone's great value right now, he's injured a bit but he's a tough guy

[Frenchsoup]

Matt Chapman is a sick ballplayer best player on the market right now

[Jonn]

Vlad just posted the second lowest ground ball percentage of his career so that's not so much of an issue at this point. Vlad and the team need to determine how to turn the 95th percentile expected statistics into actual production and he can return to being a much better offensive performer. I recall reading that his barreled baseballs were travelling something like 20 feet less through the air compared to previous seasons, so perhaps his batted balls had too much topspin for optimal distance. His expected statistics support something in the range of 140 wRC+ even with the relative struggles of last season.

 

I think the team and Vlad are likely stuck with each other for the next season at the very least. I see no way that the team would be able to extract appropriate value in trade for Vlad given the inconsistency of his career and the salary he's been commanding through arbitration. I am very hopeful of a huge incoming season given the offseason spent training in Florida but it's up to Vlad to finally prove he can be the type of hitter his natural talent suggests. He has hundreds of millions of potential future earnings on the line at this point so it's up to him to finally prove he's going to be worth it.

 

Well I would love to see him break out again. The pictures I have seen from this off-season are promising. It's easily the thinnest I have seen him but lets hope it stays consistent and he comes into the Season with something to prove. That arbitration meeting might give him the chip on his shoulder he needs. Big season for him and the Jays.

[Rusty_Savage]

Crone's great value right now, he's injured a bit but he's a tough guy

I'm not sure if he's great value or not but his grades on Fangraphs are all above average and he's one year removed from back to back 4.2 fWAR seasons. He could be had for a song and could provide some decent value. The contract is about three years too long though

 

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[max silver]

What would Kim cost from SD? He's an expiring contract so it shouldn't be too exorbitant. Was an above average fielder at both 3rd and 2nd.

 

I know no one wants Cronenworth but he's projected for 2.0 WAR from steamer for next year. Get the Padres to eat 11M, which basically makes it a six year contract which is more palatable and including him should cut the cost down drastically

 

No idea what it would cost

 

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I like Kim a lot too. He was one of my preferred targets the offseason where he chose to sign with San Diego and it sounds like he would have signed with the Jays had they been willing to allow him to refuse minor league assignments. I think he would be a perfect Bo replacement should Bo leave in free agency as Kim could be extended for a lot more reasonable amount compared to Bo. I have no idea what he would cost in trade but I don't think he would come cheap given how the Padres are trying to compete and he's a massive bargain at only $8 million for his final season. Maybe something like Schneider and Barger could get a deal done.

 

MLBTraderumors has a recent post about this as well.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/trade-candidate-ha-seong-kim.html

[Frenchsoup]

I'm not sure if he's great value or not but his grades on Fangraphs are all above average and he's one year removed from back to back 4.2 fWAR seasons. He could be had for a song and could provide some decent value. The contract is about three years too long though

 

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Pretty cheap AAV longterm, you could always trade him after a peak season

[Eat My Shatkins]

You have to wonder where Lantigua will fit into all of this.

 

Last year the guy played 10 games at 2B, 34 games at 3B, 24 games at SS, 39 games in LF, 14 games in RF, 5 games in CF and 9 games at DH all while putting up 130 wRC+ in AAA

 

Or maybe by mid-season Palmegiani will be on the 40 man and splitting time at 3B with IKF

[Jays24]

[Nightengale] While several teams still remain engaged with Snell while seeing if his price-tag drops, the Toronto Blue Jays in particular have been quietly monitoring his free agency… If Bellinger does not wind up back with the Cubs, the Blue Jays and Mariners are lurking

[Jays24]

One thing I always love about the Jays is that they're always trying to get the best bargain on their Plan B free agents. You can tell how many of the guys we've gotten were Plan A's vs Plan B's.

[polar bear]

Matt Chapman is a sick ballplayer best player on the market right now

 

LOL!

[max silver]

One thing I always love about the Jays is that they're always trying to get the best bargain on their Plan B free agents. You can tell how many of the guys we've gotten were Plan A's vs Plan B's.

 

That's exactly how you would want them to operate. It's worth it to splash maximum cash on the true premium free agents but then reach a sensible limit on the mid range guys.

[Marew]

We could get snell and then trade him for Kyle Tucker or Alvarez. Their pitching sucks.

[Frenchsoup]

Astros were dangling Framber, maybe they changed there mind.

[Rusty_Savage]

We could get snell and then trade him for Kyle Tucker or Alvarez. Their pitching sucks.

Why wouldn't the Astros just sign him then?

 

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[wamco]

We could get snell and then trade him for Kyle Tucker or Alvarez. Their pitching sucks.

 

You couldn’t trade snell for anyone

[Jonn]

Snell's stats are kinda crazy. Such dominant numbers but he also walked 100 batters. Really freaking weird.

 

I guess racking up a s*** load of strikeouts and not allowing hits makes up for a little bit. But doesn't feel very sustainable.

[Terminator]

You have to wonder where Lantigua will fit into all of this.

 

Last year the guy played 10 games at 2B, 34 games at 3B, 24 games at SS, 39 games in LF, 14 games in RF, 5 games in CF and 9 games at DH all while putting up 130 wRC+ in AAA

 

Or maybe by mid-season Palmegiani will be on the 40 man and splitting time at 3B with IKF

 

Lantigua is an org guy like Vinny Capra. Puts up some good OBP numbers in the minors and might be able to contribute while he has some options but overall they are flawed players that probably won’t contribute more than that.

[Frenchsoup]

Here's an update on Votto?

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/01/latest-on-joey-votto.html

[ilovejohnschneider]

[Laika]

Looks f***ing good

[jerb]

[Frenchsoup]

We're getting Votto Geeb

[Marew]

Why wouldn't the Astros just sign him then?

 

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We wait until the all star break

[Stangstag]

 

I’ve always thought his stance was weird, mostly the rock back before the stride/load. Always seemed like he was striding too late. This here looks good.

[Eat My Shatkins]

Maybe the stride/stance was the flaw identified by Mattingly last season that Vlad refused to fix at the time?

[Eat My Shatkins]

Lantigua is an org guy like Vinny Capra. Puts up some good OBP numbers in the minors and might be able to contribute while he has some options but overall they are flawed players that probably won’t contribute more than that.

 

More than likely