JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Toronto at Cleveland Monday, August 7, 2023 07:10 PM (ET) Matchup Last Meeting ( Aug 14, 2022 ) Cleveland 7, Toronto 2 Davis Schneider will try to continue his unprecedented hot streak to begin his major league career when the Toronto Blue Jays open a four-game series against the host Cleveland Guardians on Monday night. The 24-year-old second baseman has nine hits, including two home runs, in his first three major league games. The only other player with at least nine hits in his first three big-league contests was Coaker Triplett of the Chicago Cubs in 1938. "Every time I came into the dugout, they're all just clapping, being happy for me and I couldn't ask for anything more," Schneider said after collecting four hits, including a home run, in a 13-1 win over the Boston Red Sox on Sunday, which completed a three-game sweep. Schneider will now look to back left-hander Hyun Jin Ryu (0-1, 7.20 ERA), who the Blue Jays plan to start on Monday in the series opener. Ryu didn't deliver the type of performance he hoped for in his first outing since having Tommy John surgery in June 2022, so he'll look to improve against the Guardians. Ryu surrendered four runs and nine hits in five-plus innings of a 13-3 loss to the Baltimore Orioles last Tuesday. He struck out three and walked one on 80 pitches. Before he could record the first out, Ryu was greeted by two doubles and a single. He wound up allowing two runs in the first inning. He gave up another run in the second inning before getting through the third, fourth and fifth innings unscathed. Ryu eventually departed after surrendering a leadoff home run to Gunnar Henderson in the sixth. "He kind of got ambushed early there in the first inning," Blue Jays manager John Schneider said. "Kind of what we expected navigating a tough lineup. I thought he got better as his outing went on." Ryu has made three starts in his career against Cleveland and is 2-0 with a 2.84 ERA. The Guardians should be eager to take the field after blowing a late lead against the visiting Chicago White Sox on Sunday afternoon and losing 5-3. Cleveland was one out away from winning the rubber match of the series, but third baseman Brayan Rocchio came up short on his throws to first on back-to-back grounders and first baseman Kole Calhoun couldn't secure either throw, allowing the tying run to score. Elvis Andrus then rolled a two-run single up the middle, giving the White Sox a 5-3 lead that held up. Cleveland will send rookie right-hander Gavin Williams (1-3, 3.38) to the mound in the series opener. Williams has made eight starts this season and the 24-year-old pitched well in the past four, posting a 2.50 ERA, but he's 0-2 in that span. Pitching enough innings to qualify for a victory has been one obstacle, as Williams was limited to four innings in two of his past four starts, despite giving up just one run across those two games. Williams went five innings and allowed two runs in each of the other two starts, but the Guardians were shut out 2-0 both times. In his most recent outing last Tuesday, Williams went up against Framber Valdez of the Houston Astros, and Valdez tossed a no-hitter. Cleveland manager Terry Francona said the Houston game was the best he has seen Williams throw the ball this season. Williams agreed. "We've been going over some stuff," Williams said. "Just fixing some little things in my mechanics." Williams has not faced Toronto this season. --Field Level Media Edited August 7, 2023 by JaysAllMighty
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 I expect a good outing from Ryu. Cleveland is particularly adept at putting the bat on the ball so defense will be important. They don't score a lot but they don't give up a lot so don't give them anything free.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Chance of Jose Ramirez being suspended before the game today? Or rest of the series??
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Chance of Jose Ramirez being suspended before the game today? Or rest of the series?? Something's got to come down soon, but if he appeals he will still play in this series. It would be nice if he missed at least one or two games though.
jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 News: Tim Anderson suspended 6 games, Jose Ramirez 3 and Emmanuel Clase 1 game for their part in Saturdays brawl between the White Sox and Guardians, sources tell ESPN.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 News: Tim Anderson suspended 6 games, Jose Ramirez 3 and Emmanuel Clase 1 game for their part in Saturdays brawl between the White Sox and Guardians, sources tell ESPN. https://www.mlb.com/news/tim-anderson-jose-ramirez-emmanuel-clase-suspended A combined eight members of the Cleveland Guardians and the Chicago White Sox have received discipline for their roles in the benches-clearing on-field incident that occurred in the bottom of the sixth inning of Saturday night’s game at Cleveland’s Progressive Field. Michael Hill, Major League Baseball’s Senior Vice President for On-Field Operations, made the announcement: • White Sox shortstop Tim Anderson has received a six-game suspension and an undisclosed fine for fighting. • Guardians third baseman José Ramírez has received a three-game suspension and an undisclosed fine for fighting. • Guardians pitcher Emmanuel Clase has received a one-game suspension and an undisclosed fine. • White Sox manager Pedro Grifol and Guardians manager Terry Francona have each received a one-game suspension and an undisclosed fine. • Guardians third base coach Mike Sarbaugh has received a one-game suspension and an undisclosed fine. • In addition, White Sox pitcher Michael Kopech and Guardians outfielder Gabriel Arias have each received an undisclosed fine. The suspensions of Anderson and Ramírez had been scheduled to become effective tonight, when the Guardians are to host the Toronto Blue Jays and the White Sox are to host the New York Yankees. However, both Anderson and Ramírez have elected to appeal. Thus, the discipline issued to them will be held in abeyance until that process is complete. Clase has elected not to appeal and will serve his discipline tonight. Grifol and FrancAona must serve their respective suspensions tonight, while Sarbaugh will serve his suspension on Tuesday.
Stangstag Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Im surprised TA got double the amount of games JRam did. Ump must have heard whatever words were exchanged and Tim must have escalated the situation.
jaysguy44 Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 How long do appeals usually take? I can't recall
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 He's crazy to appeal a three game suspension, that's pretty f***ing lenient for knocking a dude out.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Im surprised TA got double the amount of games JRam did. Ump must have heard whatever words were exchanged and Tim must have escalated the situation. Not sure if it factors in, but TA already had three suspensions for on field incidents.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 He's crazy to appeal a three game suspension, that's pretty f***ing lenient for knocking a dude out. What does it hurt? He'd be crazy not to.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 He's crazy to appeal a three game suspension, that's pretty f***ing lenient for knocking a dude out. Nah, he'll drop the appeal after the Jays series, book it.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Not sure if it factors in, but TA already had three suspensions for on field incidents. Absolutely does, I thought he was getting 8 and J-Ram 5, at least no Clase tonight...
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Get Hicks to plant a fastball in Ramirez's ribs tonight. That'll get him to take the next three days' suspension.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 He's crazy to appeal a three game suspension, that's pretty f***ing lenient for knocking a dude out. If you knock a guy out, or get your ass kicked, if the fighting is in self defense, your success or lack of should not be relevant to your' penalty.
Masterbather Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 If you knock a guy out, or get your ass kicked, if the fighting is in self defense, your success or lack of should not be relevant to your' penalty. I agree but he did initiate the issue, and it's also a bad look for baseball to have players getting knocked out, they are weary of that type of stuff.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 I agree but he did initiate the issue, and it's also a bad look for baseball to have players getting knocked out, they are weary of that type of stuff. JRam initiated the verbal incident due to an episode of incidents by TA, one of which TA had already been warned by the Umps. Apparently TA said let's fight.. Takes it from verbal to physical.. If I hear someone say let's fight, I am squaring up to be prepared/defend myself also. The key thing in this is the person who takes it from verbal to physical is the instigator. The old sticks and stones, but names will never hurt me thing.
M.E. Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 (edited) Don't let Ramirez beat us and Jays get 3 of 4 minimum. Give him some Ohtani treatment as their lineup is gross otherwise Edited August 7, 2023 by M.E.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Babe Schneider is batting leadoff and playing LF tonight.
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Author Posted August 7, 2023 JRam initiated the verbal incident due to an episode of incidents by TA, one of which TA had already been warned by the Umps. Apparently TA said let's fight.. Takes it from verbal to physical.. If I hear someone say let's fight, I am squaring up to be prepared/defend myself also. The key thing in this is the person who takes it from verbal to physical is the instigator. The old sticks and stones, but names will never hurt me thing. It was a consensual fight and nothing more.
Carlos Danger Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 It was a consensual fight and nothing more. The totality of the situation and context should always be considered in sentencing. TA started the issue that led to JRam getting in his face and I think MLB knows that. Hence TA got double and not just for coming back on the field (at least I hope).
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Babe Schneider is batting leadoff and playing LF tonight. Holy s*** Love it
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 The totality of the situation and context should always be considered in sentencing. TA started the issue that led to JRam getting in his face and I think MLB knows that. Hence TA got double and not just for coming back on the field (at least I hope). It's a bit of both, that's why Gabby was fined getting into it with TA and the Ump had to issue TA a warning, then the hit, late hard tag, the guy's a repeat offender, and A1 POS and he caused all of it. The MLB got this right.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 How many home runs is Babe Schneider going to hit tonight? O/U 1.5? I'm leaning the over
JaysAllMighty Old-Timey Member Posted August 7, 2023 Author Posted August 7, 2023 How many home runs is Babe Schneider going to hit tonight? O/U 1.5? I'm leaning the over that's not a good bet
tossingthiscoin Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 Vladdy is playing 3rd tonight. Hope this kid won't go 0-4 with gidp.
tossingthiscoin Verified Member Posted August 7, 2023 Posted August 7, 2023 and Chapman playing first then??.. *batting 3rd I meant.
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