2023 Trade Deadline

[max silver]

Just curious what kind of Value Kirk might have and if he would be an option at the deadline if the price is right.

 

You would prefer to utilize a AAA depth option instead of Kirk? Then what happens when Jansen gets hurt? Now you are running two AAA depth catchers at the major league level. All so you can trade Kirk at his lowest possible level. Hard pass to that one.

[L54]

Just curious what kind of Value Kirk might have and if he would be an option at the deadline if the price is right.

 

Would never get equal value for him right now

[Stangstag]

Moreno already stated he wasn't going to trade him to the Dodgers.

 

He’s such a dumbass. Like dude shut your mouth lol

[John_Havok]

Just curious what kind of Value Kirk might have and if he would be an option at the deadline if the price is right.

 

Funny you mention that... Kirk is 39th in the MLB in trade value according to Fangraphs who just started their annual trade value conuntdown:

 

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2023-trade-value-nos-31-40/

 

Vlad checks in at 35, a precipitous drop from his #9 ranking last seaosn.

[John_Havok]

He’s such a dumbass. Like dude shut your mouth lol

 

No doubt, if anything he should be not-so-delicately stating that he's open for business, listening to all offers no matter what, while also stating he may be moved, he may not be.

 

 

but he's a f***ing idiot

[saskjayfan]

HeÂ’s such a dumbass. Like dude shut your mouth lol

 

The Orioles would be able to put the best package together for Ohtani. I'm not sure they would go all in like that, but they have 9 top 100 prospects, no payroll and a handful of studs already at the MLB level making peanuts. The orioles have done a crazy good job drafting, which a lof of is also luck. They are going to be a pain in our asses for quite a while.

[Laika]

The Orioles would be able to put the best package together for Ohtani. I'm not sure they would go all in like that, but they have 9 top 100 prospects, no payroll and a handful of studs already at the MLB level making peanuts. The orioles have done a crazy good job drafting, which a lof of is also luck. They are going to be a pain in our asses for quite a while.

 

Yeah the Os could trade 3 of their top 10 prospects, all being bats, and still be mostly fine.

[Jeff]

They absolutely should

 

I also said the Pats should’ve moved Bedard. Insane not to

 

I'm the furthest thing from a Pats fan, but they couldn't trade Bedard. He didn't want to be traded and they needed his (and family) permission because he was under 18. There's also some marketing logic from a junior hockey team perspective to lay claim to a generational hockey talent as their own. A franchise-crippling move though for sure in not trading him.

[connorp]

Yeah the Os could trade 3 of their top 10 prospects, all being bats, and still be mostly fine.

 

Didn’t all the mods get together and try to curb pro-Oriole posts? This seems counterproductive

[L54]

I'm the furthest thing from a Pats fan, but they couldn't trade Bedard. He didn't want to be traded and they needed his (and family) permission because he was under 18. There's also some marketing logic from a junior hockey team perspective to lay claim to a generational hockey talent as their own. A franchise-crippling move though for sure in not trading him.

 

I know I know he's 17 so he had to approve a trade. I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have ok'd a deal to Kelowna or Seattle though with a chance to play in the Mem Cup

 

There is some value in the words "With the first pick, the Chicago Blackhawks select from the Regina Pats..."

[Grant77]

I know I know he's 17 so he had to approve a trade. I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have ok'd a deal to Kelowna or Seattle though with a chance to play in the Mem Cup

 

There is some value in the words "With the first pick, the Chicago Blackhawks select from the Regina Pats..."

 

I believe that all first round picks in the CHL have a no-trade clause whether they are under 18 or not. It's definitely true for the OHL.

[Jeff]

I know I know he's 17 so he had to approve a trade. I have a hard time believing he wouldn't have ok'd a deal to Kelowna or Seattle though with a chance to play in the Mem Cup

 

There is some value in the words "With the first pick, the Chicago Blackhawks select from the Regina Pats..."

 

No, they didn't want to move. The family had/has a condo and his mom was living in Regina with him. I think there was no chance they would have agreed to go since he had nothing left to prove in junior.

[Terminator]

What the heck are you guys talking about?

[John_Havok]

What the heck are you guys talking about?

 

I think they're trying to equate trading Conner Bedard and Shohei Ohtani somehow.

[Jays24]

Moreno already stated he wasn't going to trade him to the Dodgers.

 

Kind of stupid to say that publicly. Just use the Dodgers to help build up his price and trade him to another team. Clearly ego got in the way of what's best for the team here lol.

[Terminator]

 

This is going to be awkward when we trade him in a package for Max Scherzer at the deadline.

[wilko]

 

This is going to be awkward when we trade him in a package for Max Scherzer at the deadline.

 

lol

[Jonn]

If the Angels don’t trade Ohtani. They will officially be the dumbest franchise in the history of sports. There’s absolutely no reason to keep him when they can set up their entire future with one trade.

 

Its not like they are going to have Trout anytime soon either.

[Jimcanuck]

If the Angels don’t trade Ohtani. They will officially be the dumbest franchise in the history of sports. There’s absolutely no reason to keep him when they can set up their entire future with one trade.

 

Its not like they are going to have Trout anytime soon either.

 

If they don't its:

 

30. Angels

29. Rockies

 

Hard to believe there could be a stupider franchise than the Rockies out there.

[G-Snarls]

If the Angels don’t trade Ohtani. They will officially be the dumbest franchise in the history of sports. There’s absolutely no reason to keep him when they can set up their entire future with one trade.

 

Its not like they are going to have Trout anytime soon either.

 

5.5 games behind WC3 with SEA, NYY and BOS ahead of them and CLE 0.5 games behind them

 

With no Mike Trout for the foreseeable future. And a very tough schedule in August.

[Jimcanuck]

The other aspect is Ohtani hasn't exactly been the most durable player. The scenario where they don't trade him, and he gets hurt not long after is very real.

[L54]

I think they're trying to equate trading Conner Bedard and Shohei Ohtani somehow.

 

How much different are the scenarios in your opinion?

[WryNGinger]

It feels a bit personal between the Angels and the Dodgers right now. Like the Dodgers have had some discussion with Ohtani and/or the Angels. Angels owners basically saying OVER PAY or FU. The messaging between the teams seems to be chest thumping and random projections

[JaysAllMighty]

[hanton]

If the Angels don’t trade Ohtani. They will officially be the dumbest franchise in the history of sports. There’s absolutely no reason to keep him when they can set up their entire future with one trade.

 

Its not like they are going to have Trout anytime soon either.

 

Would anyone be really surprised? being s***** at about everything they do for the past 10 years

[bigshot84]

alex manoah, travor richards and 4 top 30 prospect for Ohtani

[RobinThicc]

 

Is this him talking about Nelson Cruz? Lol

[Daniel Labude]

Is this him talking about Nelson Cruz? Lol

 

The return of Teoscar

[The Cats Ass]

Dylan Carlson should be a target. Add Jordan Hicks into the deal as well.

[wamco]

So it begins….genesis cabrera to jays from STL