General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2023)

[keggy]

This is a releasable offense. What are Davis Schneider, Horowitz, and other young players at AAA going to learn from this? How much clubhouse tension will there be between the goofs like Manoah and the professionals like Bichette and Varsho? Do you think this will encourage Kirk and Guerrero to work on their conditioning?

 

Shapiro, Atkins, and Schneider need to take a look in the mirror and take control of the organizational culture they have created. If they need any help, look at the Braves organization and how they discipline Acuna versus how the Jays "discipline" Guerrero. Or better yet, send Buck into the clubhouse for a week.

 

Manoah is out of control, but Atkins' limp wristed response by covering it up is a much bigger problem than optioning one s***** pitcher.

[mphenhef]

Wait.. we hate Ricky Romero? I was only disappointed that he crashed and burned very quickly after being successful. I never thought he was an *******.

 

I actually loathe Manoah for being a giant douche incapable of recognizing how much he stinks now. He actually thinks figuring it out at the major league level while costing the team more wins than he already has is acceptable. The fact he is willing to destroy the experience of not only his teammates, but the millions of fans hungry for the team to make the playoffs for his own selfish gains is the peak of douchebaggery. f*** him. I hope he never pitches again at the major league level.

 

I've thought Manoah was a douchebag since day one, but at least he was our douchebag if that makes sense. I hope he figures it out, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he is done. This year had to be humbling even for a huge ego.

[Captain_Obvious]

This is a releasable offense. What are Davis Schneider, Horowitz, and other young players at AAA going to learn from this? How much clubhouse tension will there be between the goofs like Manoah and the professionals like Bichette and Varsho? Do you think this will encourage Kirk and Guerrero to work on their conditioning?

 

Shapiro, Atkins, and Schneider need to take a look in the mirror and take control of the organizational culture they have created. If they need any help, look at the Braves organization and how they discipline Acuna versus how the Jays "discipline" Guerrero. Or better yet, send Buck into the clubhouse for a week.

 

Manoah is out of control, but Atkins' limp wristed response by covering it up is a much bigger problem than optioning one s***** pitcher.

 

Releasing him does him a favor and grants him FA. He should rot in either in the minor leagues or inactive list.

[Omar]

Wait.. we hate Ricky Romero? I was only disappointed that he crashed and burned very quickly after being successful. I never thought he was an *******.

 

I actually loathe Manoah for being a giant douche incapable of recognizing how much he stinks now. He actually thinks figuring it out at the major league level while costing the team more wins than he already has is acceptable. The fact he is willing to destroy the experience of not only his teammates, but the millions of fans hungry for the team to make the playoffs for his own selfish gains is the peak of douchebaggery. f*** him. I hope he never pitches again at the major league level.

 

I think what BigC is referring to with respect to being talked about like Romero is more about "what could have been" not in terms of likeability. No one hated Romero, we were just let down. No one likes Manoah right now and we're let down.

[Omar]

I've thought Manoah was a douchebag since day one, but at least he was our douchebag if that makes sense. I hope he figures it out, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he is done. This year had to be humbling even for a huge ego.

 

Somewhere Alex Verdugo is laughing right now.

[Captain_Obvious]

I think what BigC is referring to with respect to being talked about like Romero is more about "what could have been" not in terms of likeability. No one hated Romero, we were just let down. No one likes Manoah right now and we're let down.

 

I am not disappointed in Manoah. I absolutely loathe him. If he wasn't a Blue Jay, I would actually wish that he fails at everything he does moving forward.

[Laika]

Releasing him does him a favor and grants him FA. He should rot in either in the minor leagues or inactive list.

 

Yeah you either trade him for something close to his actual value, or just make him the SP7 until he runs out of options.

[Stangstag]

Trade Manoah for an infielder

 

Manoah to the Cards for Tommy Edman

[Brownie19]

This is a releasable offense. What are Davis Schneider, Horowitz, and other young players at AAA going to learn from this? How much clubhouse tension will there be between the goofs like Manoah and the professionals like Bichette and Varsho? Do you think this will encourage Kirk and Guerrero to work on their conditioning?

 

Shapiro, Atkins, and Schneider need to take a look in the mirror and take control of the organizational culture they have created. If they need any help, look at the Braves organization and how they discipline Acuna versus how the Jays "discipline" Guerrero. Or better yet, send Buck into the clubhouse for a week.

 

Manoah is out of control, but Atkins' limp wristed response by covering it up is a much bigger problem than optioning one s***** pitcher.

 

Buck Martinez? How about no.

[L54]

Somewhere Alex Verdugo is laughing right now.

 

And Gerrit Cole

 

I’d be embarrassed to show my face if this was me. Talked all that s*** and can’t back any of it up

[L54]

Manoah to the Cards for Tommy Edman

 

Too bad Schneider can’t play third because it’s easier to find a guy who can play second

[RustyTrombone]

Honestly Alek should just hang up it up and commit seppuku at this point.

[Stangstag]

Honestly Alek should just hang up it up and commit seppuku at this point.

 

Seppuku?? Mmm sounds tasty

[Sorrow]

Im not surprised Manoah and his agent are looking to say he’s injured so he accrues MLB service time and pay for super two status this winter and with him having a lot of success even with a bad year this year he’d be in line for a pretty hefty pay raise.

[keggy]

Buck Martinez? How about no.

 

Yeah you're right, we should rehire Montoyo to come give everyone a big hug

[Brownie19]

Yeah you're right, we should rehire Montoyo to come give everyone a big hug

 

You want to hire Buck so he can be 'tough' with a group of adults? Good luck with that. Buck is also a moron.

[gruber92]

Vladdy batting third again tonight vs Sherzer. I would do..

 

Springer

Bo

Horowitz

Schneider

Biggio

Vladdy

KK

Heinamen

Varsho

[THANOS]

Vladdy batting third again tonight vs Sherzer. I would do..

 

Springer

Bo

Horowitz

Schneider

Biggio

Vladdy

KK

Heinamen

Varsho

 

Perfect line-up, unfortunately they don't seem to want to budge him paat clean-up, regardless of merit.

[THANOS]

 

End of Belt's time in TOR? He did amazing for us, if so!

 

Horwitz will get a nice run here now to prove himself.

[G-Snarls]

Dammit

 

Sucks to have Belt out right now

[G-Snarls]

What about Chapman???

[Jonn]

Wait.. we hate Ricky Romero? I was only disappointed that he crashed and burned very quickly after being successful. I never thought he was an *******.

 

I actually loathe Manoah for being a giant douche incapable of recognizing how much he stinks now. He actually thinks figuring it out at the major league level while costing the team more wins than he already has is acceptable. The fact he is willing to destroy the experience of not only his teammates, but the millions of fans hungry for the team to make the playoffs for his own selfish gains is the peak of douchebaggery. f*** him. I hope he never pitches again at the major league level.

 

I hate Ricky Romero because they drafted him over Tulo. I remember screaming at my computer monitor on MLB.com in 10th grade. It was miracle he reached 6 and the Jays still f***ed it up. Got him later which was cool but his prime already happened.

[glory]

 

End of Belt's time in TOR? He did amazing for us, if so!

 

Horwitz will get a nice run here now to prove himself.

 

2 WAR and 133 wRC+ in 382 PA. He was a great signing. Not having him down the stretch is going to hurt.

[Laika]

 

End of Belt's time in TOR? He did amazing for us, if so!

 

Horwitz will get a nice run here now to prove himself.

 

f***ing ROUGH.

 

The could have just IL'd him back on Sept 3rd and taken their time. Maybe with more patience he would have been fine a few days from now.

 

The lineup without him is pretty short. All the other lefties are assumed non-factors most nights.

[Stangstag]

 

End of Belt's time in TOR? He did amazing for us, if so!

 

Horwitz will get a nice run here now to prove himself.

 

s*** never thought about that… possibly true. Unless he’s ready for pinch hitting duties in the playoffs.

 

Some big bats going down for us down the stretch here… not ideal.

[Stangstag]

Also, anyone wanting to re-sign Belt are out of their f***ing minds. Dude’s body will not hold up at all going forward.

 

I would be cautious about KK too. We should be happy with what we got out of both guys and send them packing with a handshake.

[Laika]

Also, anyone wanting to re-sign Belt are out of their f***ing minds. Dude’s body will not hold up at all going forward.

 

I would be cautious about KK too. We should be happy with what we got out of both guys and send them packing with a handshake.

 

All depends on the cost. I'm not sure either gets a raise, given their ages.

[Terminator]

Saw Chapman hopes to be back this week. Getting his glove will be helpful enough but hopefully he hits.

[wilko]

Saw Chapman hopes to be back this week. Getting his glove will be helpful enough but hopefully he hits.

 

It's going to cut into Biggio's playing time...

[Terminator]

It's going to cut into Biggio's playing time...

 

He can replace Belt