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[Jimcanuck]

There has to be a crime about her attempting to defraud Bauer. It's ******** if there isn't and people like her make it harder for women who actually go through s***.

 

To be clear, Bauer sued the woman, then she countersued. Not the other way around.

[Jays24]

To be clear, Bauer sued the woman, then she countersued. Not the other way around.

 

I'm speaking criminally. She should be in jail and should be liable to pay everything Bauer has lost the past 2 years. This will help weed out the trashy women from the actual victims when this sort of thing happens.

[Jimcanuck]

I'm speaking criminally. She should be in jail and should be liable to pay everything Bauer has lost the past 2 years. This will help weed out the trashy women from the actual victims when this sort of thing happens.

 

For what? There is no evidence of extortion.

 

If you have evidence of a crime, report it to the police.

[connorp]

For what? There is no evidence of extortion.

 

If you have evidence of a crime, report it to the police.

 

There’s a whole lot of smoke

[Jimcanuck]

There’s a whole lot of smoke

 

Even if there is, that would add up to nothing.

 

Bauer sued for defamation, she countersued. They agreed to drop each other's claim, when her insurance provided $300,000 (presumably for her injuries and treatment). There is no indication of anything criminal on her part.

 

If Bauer is going to sue anyone, it would be MLB.

[WryNGinger]

If what he says is true (and from what I understand of the case/evidence he is speaking truthfully) then I will honestly take a bit more time judging stuff like this when it hits the media/social networks. I have a self admittance bias against rich people. Pursuing money is the anathema of what society and family should be based on...but not all 1%'ers are beyond hope apparently. Congrats to Bauer for fighting the good fight.

[Brownie19]

The best thing is she'll forever be known as a self proclaimed whore.

[Carlos Danger]

lol, Dodgers reddit is not convinced that the tweets Bauer showed in that video were real

 

I mentioned this 1000 posts ago. However the point he makes about the restraining order not being granted is what told me this is BS back when that first came out. Bauer is spot on about the low burden of proof/evidence required for judge to grant a Temp restraining order (TRO).

 

If she can't even get a TRO, unlikely there will be probable cause to charge him criminally and oh looky looky he was not.

 

In addition while the burden of proof is more than a TRO in a civil case, but much less than a criminal case and she takes a loss there as well.

 

All three of those factual events tell me that in all probability, the video and texts and Bauer's versions of the events are accurate.

[L54]

For what? There is no evidence of extortion.

 

If you have evidence of a crime, report it to the police.

 

Jim “I have trouble reading between the lines” Canuck

[L54]

Bauer knew it was BS the entire time and was willing to say f*** it I’ll just go play in Japan instead of allowing her to extort him for hush money

 

Alpha move

[L54]

im not dogg though, im 35 and my only account. I hear Dogg was on other boards going back 20 years, I doubt he started as a 15 year old. I see there is hand full of people here who will call every new poster Dogg. Thats why there's only about 20 regular posters here on a group thats existed for over a decade. 99% of new accounts seem to be shunned. I dont understand why registration is actually open here at all.

 

Spanky seems to be an extremely troubled and insecure person who instigates it. Everyone else seems good except this Ginger guy, trying to hard to fit in and all posts are basically copies of each other, not one useful or thoughtful post But will post incessantly whining about the bad posts.

 

No point in having a group where everyone tries very hard to have the exact same opinion for fear of being shunned.

 

Good post. Guys crying about new posters being dogg is lame and so is group think.

 

Growth is definitely stagnant in part to not being an overly welcoming place for new users. Someone will say Luis Arraez is a good hitter he’s hitting .389 and someone will call you a moron because you didn’t quote wRC+ or his xSLG is .399

[L54]

I mentioned this 1000 posts ago. However the point he makes about the restraining order not being granted is what told me this is BS back when that first came out. Bauer is spot on about the low burden of proof/evidence required for judge to grant a Temp restraining order (TRO).

 

If she can't even get a TRO, unlikely there will be probable cause to charge him criminally and oh looky looky he was not.

 

In addition while the burden of proof is more than a TRO in a civil case, but much less than a criminal case and she takes a loss there as well.

 

All three of those factual events tell me that in all probability, the video and texts and Bauer's versions of the events are accurate.

 

Ding ding ding 🛎️

[Spanky__99]

Jim “I have trouble reading between the lines” Canuck

 

lol... he's such an idiot.

[Spanky__99]

Good post. Guys crying about new posters being dogg is lame and so is group think.

 

Growth is definitely stagnant in part to not being an overly welcoming place for new users. Someone will say Luis Arraez is a good hitter he’s hitting .389 and someone will call you a moron because you didn’t quote wRC+ or his xSLG is .399

 

lol

[mphenhef]

I mentioned this 1000 posts ago. However the point he makes about the restraining order not being granted is what told me this is BS back when that first came out. Bauer is spot on about the low burden of proof/evidence required for judge to grant a Temp restraining order (TRO).

 

If she can't even get a TRO, unlikely there will be probable cause to charge him criminally and oh looky looky he was not.

 

In addition while the burden of proof is more than a TRO in a civil case, but much less than a criminal case and she takes a loss there as well.

 

All three of those factual events tell me that in all probability, the video and texts and Bauer's versions of the events are accurate.

 

I can't speak for in the US but someone I know tried to get a restraining order from an ex who was off his rocker and threatening last year and was denied due to no violence having yet occurred. There was lots of evidence of the threats in this case too.

[mphenhef]

im not dogg though, im 35 and my only account. I hear Dogg was on other boards going back 20 years, I doubt he started as a 15 year old. I see there is hand full of people here who will call every new poster Dogg. Thats why there's only about 20 regular posters here on a group thats existed for over a decade. 99% of new accounts seem to be shunned. I dont understand why registration is actually open here at all.

 

Spanky seems to be an extremely troubled and insecure person who instigates it. Everyone else seems good except this Ginger guy, trying to hard to fit in and all posts are basically copies of each other, not one useful or thoughtful post But will post incessantly whining about the bad posts.

 

No point in having a group where everyone tries very hard to have the exact same opinion for fear of being shunned.

 

judging by the quality of the posts from Dogg back then I'd wonder if he was even 15

[Spanky__99]

I can't speak for in the US but someone I know tried to get a restraining order from an ex who was off his rocker and threatening last year and was denied due to no violence having yet occurred. There was lots of evidence of the threats in this case too.

 

Yikes any witnesses?

[mphenhef]

Yikes any witnesses?

 

No witnesses and thankfully she left before it got to violence. The threats came in email and text form as she had left the residence by that point.

[max silver]

MLB seemingly didn't learn a thing from the outcome of the Johnny Depp case. Bauer was run through the ringer and had his livelihood sabotaged under a presumption of guilt.

 

Fire - Aim - Ready is their version of justice with no consideration for the accused. Because you think someone is a terrible human being doesn't give you the right to destroy their life.

 

MLB should issue a public apology to Trevor Bauer.

 

I wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the evidence in the Bauer case. I recall there were supposed to be multiple accusers against Bauer but I don't recall any of that information leaking out at any point. The initial suspension was actually reduced by a large amount but this didn't seem to completely exonerate Bauer as his suspension was reduced from 324 games to 194 games which was still the largest domestic violence suspension in league history. It seems likely by that point that there were serious holes in the initial accuser's story and that it could pretty much be ruled to be ******** at that point, but if the 2 other accusers and 20 witnesses called produced zero evidence of serious impropriety it seems more likely the suspension would have been completely nullified.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35307636/trevor-bauer-mlb-suspension-reduction-dodgers

[Laika]

I wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the evidence in the Bauer case. I recall there were supposed to be multiple accusers against Bauer but I don't recall any of that information leaking out at any point. The initial suspension was actually reduced by a large amount but this didn't seem to completely exonerate Bauer as his suspension was reduced from 324 games to 194 games which was still the largest domestic violence suspension in league history. It seems likely by that point that there were serious holes in the initial accuser's story and that it could pretty much be ruled to be ******** at that point, but if the 2 other accusers and 20 witnesses called produced zero evidence of serious impropriety it seems more likely the suspension would have been completely nullified.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35307636/trevor-bauer-mlb-suspension-reduction-dodgers

 

It could come down to whether or not Bauer ever files suit against MLB

 

Which could depend on whether or not an MLB team offers him a job this offseason.

[connorp]

I wonder if we will ever find out the rest of the evidence in the Bauer case. I recall there were supposed to be multiple accusers against Bauer but I don't recall any of that information leaking out at any point. The initial suspension was actually reduced by a large amount but this didn't seem to completely exonerate Bauer as his suspension was reduced from 324 games to 194 games which was still the largest domestic violence suspension in league history. It seems likely by that point that there were serious holes in the initial accuser's story and that it could pretty much be ruled to be ******** at that point, but if the 2 other accusers and 20 witnesses called produced zero evidence of serious impropriety it seems more likely the suspension would have been completely nullified.

 

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/35307636/trevor-bauer-mlb-suspension-reduction-dodgers

 

It was tough. He was indefinitely suspended while it got sorted through. The girl kept blowing all kinds of smoke from all directions. By the time they had gotten through it, he had been suspended that long already. I think if all these facts just suddenly came to light, it probably goes how Clevingers goes.

 

That first media push really sunk him. The lies were heinous and the townsfolk took out the pitchforks. Mlb caved like Laila in HS when they wanted his lunch money. At least he’s a lawyer now and eating good

[Terminator]

[Laika]

The old Athletic article has been amended. I wonder what the first publication said, verbatim

[Brownie19]

 

That isn't surprising to me. There's almost no such thing as "news" anymore. It's all just content for entertainment purposes and to serve a narrative (which is often political). White guys are prime clickbait material these days and people love to make things up and stretch the truth. It's a goldmine for them. They don't care what the consequences are as long as they make money (which ironically was seemingly the approach white guys took to gain their privilege).

[Omar]

 

Molly Knight's twitter is now locked down.

[Terminator]

Are any baseball writers or publications that ran the original story covering it now? I’m not seeing anything from Passan, Rosenthal, etc.

[Carlos Danger]

I can't speak for in the US but someone I know tried to get a restraining order from an ex who was off his rocker and threatening last year and was denied due to no violence having yet occurred. There was lots of evidence of the threats in this case too.

 

In Bauer's case the physical aspect had supposedly already occurred, not just threats, and she still couldn't get a TRO.

[Carlos Danger]

Molly Knight's twitter is now locked down.

 

Good!

[Carlos Danger]

The old Athletic article has been amended. I wonder what the first publication said, verbatim

 

Probably going to hinge on if they prefaced it with the word, "allegedly" or wrote it as a statement of fact.

 

I am hoping the latter just to see them get their just desserts.

[Omar]

Good!

 

She doesn't want the backlash.