Toronto Blue Jays Roster Discussion (2022)

[Jays24]

Agreed.. This aspect should make him realize that the team is better as a whole with him at second base.

 

Loll wasnt expecting that comment but hilarious nonetheless.

 

Would love him to take the leadership role and let the better SS stop playing 2B. It's happened for the past 2 years with Semien/Espinal. Vladdy moved over to 1B, Springer is moving to a Corner OF spot... now just need him to realize that Espinal should be SS every single inning he's on the field.

[G-Snarls]

Gotta figure orioles in my mind.

 

I was thinking same

 

Seems they've been waiting out the market. Good target for them.

[max silver]

Loll wasnt expecting that comment but hilarious nonetheless.

 

Would love him to take the leadership role and let the better SS stop playing 2B. It's happened for the past 2 years with Semien/Espinal. Vladdy moved over to 1B, Springer is moving to a Corner OF spot... now just need him to realize that Espinal should be SS every single inning he's on the field.

 

Do you really think Bo is the person making the decision on the behalf of the organization who plays short stop?

[John_Havok]

Do you really think Bo is the person making the decision on the behalf of the organization who plays short stop?

 

Bo is kinda stuck at SS right now. Yes, they COULD play Espinal there and Bo at 2nd everyday, but Espinal isnt a good enough hitter (IMO) against RHP to do that. Its not even Bo's glove thats the problem, it's his decision making with the arm.

[G-Snarls]

Bo is kinda stuck at SS right now. Yes, they COULD play Espinal there and Bo at 2nd everyday, but Espinal isnt a good enough hitter (IMO) against RHP to do that. Its not even Bo's glove thats the problem, it's his decision making with the arm.

 

Yes

 

And I think he can probably improve

 

Team prob thinks so too

[MON4NHLTOR4MLB]

Bo could work hard and improve his D this offseason. We saw glimpses of improvement last year. I’m more worried about the 5th starter, bullpen and 4th OF

[Ehjays]

Eovaldi has a comp pick tied to him, it has to be a multi year contract, meat.

 

Yes to most teams it would mean a multi year deal, It didn't stop the Angels last year with Thor

[Spanky99]

Yes to most teams it would mean a multi year deal, It didn't stop the Angels last year with Thor

 

Angels are dumn.

[Spanky99]

Agreed.. This aspect should make him realize that the team is better as a whole with him at second base.

 

Loll wasnt expecting that comment but hilarious nonetheless.

 

Would love him to take the leadership role and let the better SS stop playing 2B. It's happened for the past 2 years with Semien/Espinal. Vladdy moved over to 1B, Springer is moving to a Corner OF spot... now just need him to realize that Espinal should be SS every single inning he's on the field.

 

The Jays have 3 2nd baseman on the roster, you seriously think Toronto's going to move Bo to 2nd for Espy to play every day, lol. My God!

[John_Havok]

Bo could work hard and improve his D this offseason. We saw glimpses of improvement last year. I’m more worried about the 5th starter, bullpen and 4th OF

 

If there's one spot im no longer worried about, it's the 4th OF. Biggio and Merrifield can both fill in the outfield. One thing in the Jays favour this season is that their 4th OF no longer needs to be able to defend CF. If 1 CF goes down, there's still 2 more to play there and all the 4th OF needs to do is play a corner. Merrifield can do that fine, Biggio can do it as a 5th option with Lukes only a phone call away.

[G-Snarls]

If there's one spot im no longer worried about, it's the 4th OF. Biggio and Merrifield can both fill in the outfield. One thing in the Jays favour this season is that their 4th OF no longer needs to be able to defend CF. If 1 CF goes down, there's still 2 more to play there and all the 4th OF needs to do is play a corner. Merrifield can do that fine, Biggio can do it as a 5th option with Lukes only a phone call away.

 

For sure. Much better OF coverage with the additions of KK and Varsho

[John_Havok]

For sure. Much better OF coverage with the additions of KK and Varsho

 

The Jays might actually do some damage against LHP this season with good defense still in play.

 

I really like the flexibility of the Jays lineup this season. They're a decent threat to have a deep lineup against both RHP and LHP with elite defense.

 

vs RHP

 

Springer CF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho LF

KK CF

Jansen C/DH

Biggio 2b

 

Vs LHP

 

Springer RF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho CF

Merrifeld LF

Jansen C/DH

Espinal 2b

 

Lineup order I didn't really bother with changing though the bottom would likely shuffle a bit. Point is, there's a lot to like with the interchangeable position players like Merrifield, Espinal and Biggio that allows the defense to stay well above average without losing anything at the plate against either arm side.

 

Edit: while looking up OAA last season for the Jays, Biggio was sneaky great at 2b in his limited chances.

[Captain_Obvious]

The Jays might actually do some damage against LHP this season with good defense still in play.

 

I really like the flexibility of the Jays lineup this season. They're a decent threat to have a deep lineup against both RHP and LHP with elite defense.

 

vs RHP

 

Springer CF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho LF

KK CF

Jansen C/DH

Biggio 2b

 

Vs LHP

 

Springer RF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho CF

Merrifeld LF

Jansen C/DH

Espinal 2b

 

Lineup order I didn't really bother with changing though the bottom would likely shuffle a bit. Point is, there's a lot to like with the interchangeable position players like Merrifield, Espinal and Biggio that allows the defense to stay well above average without losing anything at the plate against either arm side.

 

Edit: while looking up OAA last season for the Jays, Biggio was sneaky great at 2b in his limited chances.

 

 

2/10 for batting the best Blue Jay hitter 8th. Let's not repeat last year's mistake.

[G-Snarls]

2/10 for batting the best Blue Jay hitter 8th. Let's not repeat last year's mistake.

 

Catchers hit 8th!

[John_Havok]

2/10 for batting the best Blue Jay hitter 8th. Let's not repeat last year's mistake.

 

"I didn't really bother with changing though the bottom would likely shuffle a bit."

[THANOS]

2/10 for batting the best Blue Jay hitter 8th. Let's not repeat last year's mistake.

 

I agree. I like these lineups, assuming no further changes.

 

RHP (5-9 goes LH, RH, LH, RH, LH with Biggio #9 ahead of Springer)

 

1. RF Springer

2. SS Bichette

3. 1B Guerrero Jr

4. C/DH Kirk

5. LF Varsho

6. C/DH Jansen

7. CF Kiermaier

8. 3B Chapman

9. 2B Biggio

 

LHP

 

1. RF Springer

2. SS Bichette

3. 1B Guerrero Jr

4. C/DH Kirk

5. C/DH Jansen

6. 3B Chapman

7. CF Varsho

8. LF Merryfield

9. 2B Espinal

[Stangstag]

The Jays might actually do some damage against LHP this season with good defense still in play.

 

I really like the flexibility of the Jays lineup this season. They're a decent threat to have a deep lineup against both RHP and LHP with elite defense.

 

vs RHP

 

Springer CF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho LF

KK CF

Jansen C/DH

Biggio 2b

 

Vs LHP

 

Springer RF

Bo SS

Vlad 1b

Chapman 3b

Kirk C/DH

Varsho CF

Merrifeld LF

Jansen C/DH

Espinal 2b

 

Lineup order I didn't really bother with changing though the bottom would likely shuffle a bit. Point is, there's a lot to like with the interchangeable position players like Merrifield, Espinal and Biggio that allows the defense to stay well above average without losing anything at the plate against either arm side.

 

Edit: while looking up OAA last season for the Jays, Biggio was sneaky great at 2b in his limited chances.

 

In what world does Chapman hit 4th on this team… lol

[Jays24]

The Jays have 3 2nd baseman on the roster, you seriously think Toronto's going to move Bo to 2nd for Espy to play every day, lol. My God!

 

Who said everyday? My comment said when Espy is in the lineup, he should be SS while Bo is at 2B.

 

It's no different than when Springer moved to a corner OF spot for the times Zimmer came onto the field last year. My God! Lol

[Spanky99]

Who said everyday? My comment said when Espy is in the lineup, he should be SS while Bo is at 2B.

 

It's no different than when Springer moved to a corner OF spot for the times Zimmer came onto the field last year. My God! Lol

 

Yer dumn, lol.

[Stangstag]

Who said everyday? My comment said when Espy is in the lineup, he should be SS while Bo is at 2B.

 

It's no different than when Springer moved to a corner OF spot for the times Zimmer came onto the field last year. My God! Lol

 

I can agree with that I guess. You just almost never see a SS move back and forth between SS-2B for some reason. Though they move around with the shift all the time so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to play 2B a bit

 

I think it is a lot easier for players to swap OF spots though since they’re basically all the same

[Jays24]

Do you really think Bo is the person making the decision on the behalf of the organization who plays short stop?

 

Let's just hope he's really improved his defense because he'll stick out like a sore thumb on our team otherwise this year. We have near elite defenders at all positions except his.

 

And I agree that it isn't his decision but there must be a reason why he hasn't even spent. Maybe management feels his ego is too fragile but it'd all be speculation. Think we all just care about having the best team possible and his defense at SS will be a huge part of this.

[Jays24]

Yer dumn, lol.

 

Let's not resort to name calling again. Last time I answered back, I was suspended for mentioning something like I was supposed to know your personal life issues. Just don't be that guy by resorting to this nonsense first if you cant handle comebacks lol.

[Spanky99]

Let's not resort to name calling again. Last time I answered back, I was suspended for mentioning something like I actually know u lol.

 

What? lol

[Spanky99]

lol

[Spanky99]

lol

[Spanky99]

lol

[Jays24]

I can agree with that I guess. You just almost never see a SS move back and forth between SS-2B for some reason. Though they move around with the shift all the time so I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to play 2B a bit

 

I think it is a lot easier for players to swap OF spots though since they’re basically all the same

 

I agree that it doesn't happen often but thats usually because SS's are usually the best infield defenders on the team overall and get that "captain" label. Like you said, with the constant shifting we've been doing, didn't seem like a big deal.

 

And I'd disagree that all OF positions are the same. CF is and has always been a different animal than the corner spots. If it can be done there, it can be done in the infield. Just gotta be selfless.

[Spanky99]

I agree that it doesn't happen often but thats usually because SS's are usually the best infield defenders on the team overall and get that "captain" label. Like you said, with the constant shifting we've been doing, didn't seem like a big deal.

 

And I'd disagree that all OF positions are the same. CF is and has always been a different animal than the corner spots. If it can be done there, it can be done in the infield. Just gotta be selfless.

 

So Bo's selfish? He's already said he'd move off short if need be.

[Jays24]

So Bo's selfish?

 

I have 0 clue about what and who Bo is. Just saying that being selfless would be a first required step to seeing him switch positions for the best interest of the team in the short term.

 

We don't even know if the team ever approached him based on our current roster. All speculation but never understood seeing an established player like Springer switching spots while Bo has never done it even once.

[Spanky99]

I have 0 clue about what and who Bo is. Just saying that being selfless would be a first required step to seeing him switch positions for the best interest of the team in the short term. We don't even know if the team ever approached him based on our current roster. All speculation.

 

You missed my edit. It won't happen for the likes of Espinal. Teams don't treat All Stars that way, like ever.