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[Terminator]

The length is bad but the AAV is relatively low. They are definitely going to be eating some years on that but I think there's a chance this doesn't end up being so bad.

[Omar]

Maybe he would have been given a pass if he pretended to apologize for the hanging comment and kept quiet, but he kept saying things that he knew would not be taken well by the voters. That said he deserves to get in on merit.

 

Merit and the bloody sock.

[xposbrad]

The length is bad but the AAV is relatively low. They are definitely going to be eating some years on that but I think there's a chance this doesn't end up being so bad.

 

It's not like they signed Kikuchi who is useless. Turner is projected for what? 4.7war a year? Even if he gives them 5-6 good years, they will have broken even on it, the rest will be just a bonus. Add jersey sales, and a possible championship and it's peanuts for a big market team willing to sign a key position player.

[Jonn]

Ryu was signed the year before that too. We basically sign one top tier FA each year now. We aren't LA or the NYY but are otherwise considered a big market team now.

 

I just wish the likes of Max, Verlander, DeGrom we’re on the market when Jays were in the market to overpay for a Starter.

[Stangstag]

I just wish the likes of Max, Verlander, DeGrom we’re on the market when Jays were in the market to overpay for a Starter.

 

They were close on Cole allegedly. You could argue he was that calibre as a free agent. They pivoted to Ryu

[Jays24]

Every year people cry about the free agent market and how everyone's being overpaid. Either you have an endless budget or you need to fit on most of the deals you dish out. Welcome to the big boy club.

[Ray]

All I think about when I hear these deals is how it will impact the Jays ability to sign anyone of significance. They're not going into luxury tax territory... Trades it is.

 

According to Nicholson-Smith, we were willing to go multiple years on Verlander, who was surely not signing less than $40M AAV. That would’ve blasted us past the first luxury tax threshold.

 

Seems like we have around $30M-$40M to spend this offseason. My bold prediction is we do cross the threshold by the end of the 2023 season after midseason acquisitions. Jays were an absolute cash cow for Rogers this past year.

[Terminator]

It's not like they signed Kikuchi who is useless. Turner is projected for what? 4.7war a year? Even if he gives them 5-6 good years, they will have broken even on it, the rest will be just a bonus. Add jersey sales, and a possible championship and it's peanuts for a big market team willing to sign a key position player.

 

In the future a 28 million AAV will probably look like less than it is now too.

[FantasyNewb]

He was a six-time All-Star, three-time World Series champion, World Series MVP and National League Championship Series MVP. He finished runner-up for the Cy Young Award three times.

 

He played 20 years in the majors and finished with a 3.46 ERA and 3,116 strikeouts. He is one of 19 pitchers to record 3,000 or more strikeouts. The only retired pitchers in the club who are not in the Hall of Fame are Schilling, Clemens and CC Sabathia. Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer are still playing.

 

Curt Schilling earned runs allowed in 19 career postseason starts:

 

2

1

6

0

0

1

1

1

1

2

1

2

6

1

0

0

5

2

1

 

2 ER or fewer in 16 of 19 starts.

 

He is the the best big-game pitcher of my generation an unequivocally belongs in the Hall of Fame.

 

He 100% deserves to be in the hall and whoever disagrees can f*** off!

[Laika]

"deserved" descends into semantics here

 

on talent alone he does

 

but all things considered Curtis Schilling deserves the bed he made for himself

 

if I call your mom a soggy taco I don't expect her to invite me for brunch

[Terminator]

Ok so what has Schilling actually said that is so offensive that it should prevent him from entering the HoF? I googled it and some clickbait article presented the following:

 

1. He posted a right wing boomer meme about transgender bathroom laws.

2. He made a nazi comparison by stating that 5-10% of Muslims are extremists and that in 1940 only 7% of Germans were Nazis. Ok, so we got more ******** boomer memes coming through.

3. He denied the theory of evolution in a debate with Keith Law. LOL

4. He defended the State of South Carolina flying the Confederate Flag. Seems crazy right now but ten years ago it was a pretty common position. This is probably the worst thing on the list so far.

5. He frequently criticized Hillary Clinton.

6. Claimed ESPN employs some of the biggest racists in sports.

7. Says he's not in the HoF because of his political beliefs.

8. Criticized Obama for not having a flag in his recreation of the Selma bridge march, while also seemingly giving the original 1965 marchers some credit for having tons of flags in their march?

 

Looks like this list might be a little bit old. I know more recently he said that Adam Jones' story that he was called the N-word in Boston was ********. Boston is a racist hellhole but Adam Jones is also a huge drama queen. Not sure that one tops anything else on the list.

 

So he's basically your average idiot boomer who is active on Facebook. That's not even close enough to keep him out of the HoF.

[Jonn]

They were close on Cole allegedly. You could argue he was that calibre as a free agent. They pivoted to Ryu

 

Always a bridesmaid never a bride.

[connorp]

Every year people cry about the free agent market and how everyone's being overpaid. Either you have an endless budget or you need to fit on most of the deals you dish out. Welcome to the big boy club.

 

Yeah, I mean it’s the market. Like I get if you don’t like a deal because of something before it’s signed, like say if you’re not confident in Lindor’s bat.. but if it’s just aging that’s the worry…they know full well about all that, it’s what the market is making them pay if they want the guy.

 

I’m not even against the Jays refusing to do 10yr deals. I’m actually glad they don’t bc a dead $25m can really cause big problems for them. I don’t begrudge the big boy teams for being less risk adverse though

 

You don’t see Friedman running LAD like the Rays lol

[connorp]

"deserved" descends into semantics here

 

on talent alone he does

 

but all things considered Curtis Schilling deserves the bed he made for himself

 

if I call your mom a soggy taco I don't expect her to invite me for brunch

 

That’s because your more in touch with your feelings and emotions. Like the voters. Less effeminate people can be like “don’t like the guys opinions and tweets but should be in the hall”

[wilko]

Ok so what has Schilling actually said that is so offensive that it should prevent him from entering the HoF? I googled it and some clickbait article presented the following:

 

1. He posted a right wing boomer meme about transgender bathroom laws.

2. He made a nazi comparison by stating that 5-10% of Muslims are extremists and that in 1940 only 7% of Germans were Nazis. Ok, so we got more ******** boomer memes coming through.

3. He denied the theory of evolution in a debate with Keith Law. LOL

4. He defended the State of South Carolina flying the Confederate Flag. Seems crazy right now but ten years ago it was a pretty common position. This is probably the worst thing on the list so far.

5. He frequently criticized Hillary Clinton.

6. Claimed ESPN employs some of the biggest racists in sports.

7. Says he's not in the HoF because of his political beliefs.

8. Criticized Obama for not having a flag in his recreation of the Selma bridge march, while also seemingly giving the original 1965 marchers some credit for having tons of flags in their march?

 

Looks like this list might be a little bit old. I know more recently he said that Adam Jones' story that he was called the N-word in Boston was ********. Boston is a racist hellhole but Adam Jones is also a huge drama queen. Not sure that one tops anything else on the list.

 

So he's basically your average idiot boomer who is active on Facebook. That's not even close enough to keep him out of the HoF.

 

Judge Schilling on his body of work in the MLB. Not his idiocracy outside of it. He should be in the HoF 100%.

[Terminator]

In fairness when I just type it out like that it makes it look better than it actually is. He's so in your face and unrelenting with it that it plays up, not down, when he's doing it in real time. I can definitely see how it rubs people the wrong way to the point they won't put him in the HoF but I don't think it should. I don't have Facebook anymore but if I did I guarantee you anyone age 50+ who uses it a lot posts that kind of crap all the time. Perhaps it's different when it's a public figure vying for the Baseball HoF and not someone's 60 year old aunt.

[Jimcanuck]

That’s because your more in touch with your feelings and emotions. Like the voters. Less effeminate people can be like “don’t like the guys opinions and tweets but should be in the hall”

 

Macho man connorp, buys his wives.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

That’s because your more in touch with your feelings and emotions. Like the voters. Less effeminate people can be like “don’t like the guys opinions and tweets but should be in the hall”

 

If that's what you think counts as macho and masculine, count me out.

 

You're a dying breed. There's a handful of you on this forum propping yourselves up, but thankfully you're going the way of the dinosaur.

[connorp]

Macho man connorp, buys his wives.

 

If I shared pics you’d change your tune.

[connorp]

If that's what you think counts as macho and masculine, count me out.

 

You're a dying breed. There's a handful of you on this forum propping yourselves up, but thankfully you're going the way of the dinosaur.

 

I exaggerated the point for fun but it’s 50/50 irl bro And it’ll stay that way. But with Hollywood, media, etc you’ll get an oversized feeling. Until my man Rick takes over that is

[Carlos Danger]

Macho man connorp, buys his wives.

 

It's just the same as Free Agency, just not baseball.

 

Fantasy baseball is not the only Fantasy he plays.

[wilko]

It's just the same as Free Agency, just not baseball.

 

Fantasy baseball is not the only Fantasy he plays.

 

Think he plays Second Life?

[BTS]

Everyone is very feisty today

[Terminator]

If that's what you think counts as macho and masculine, count me out.

 

You're a dying breed. There's a handful of you on this forum propping yourselves up, but thankfully you're going the way of the dinosaur.

 

Back in the 90's, Todd Stottlemyre was arrested for resisting arrest and assaulting a police officer over a 3 dollar cover fee to a nightclub. Yet here you are heaping praise on him and his bloody chin with your username yet Curt Schilling posts a few boomer memes and you get your panties in a bunch. You're a fraud and a hypocrite.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

If I shared pics you’d change your tune.

 

Paid for, doesn't count.

[connorp]

Paid for, doesn't count.

 

Muslims don’t work like this amigo. Also, i get shot down far more often than I get the green light. I’ve gotten old and haven’t yet come to terms with it

[John_Havok]

In fairness when I just type it out like that it makes it look better than it actually is. He's so in your face and unrelenting with it that it plays up, not down, when he's doing it in real time. I can definitely see how it rubs people the wrong way to the point they won't put him in the HoF but I don't think it should. I don't have Facebook anymore but if I did I guarantee you anyone age 50+ who uses it a lot posts that kind of crap all the time. Perhaps it's different when it's a public figure vying for the Baseball HoF and not someone's 60 year old aunt.

 

My Facebook gets flooded daily with people posting about how we need to really support Canada’s second amendment rights to gun ownership. I can’t even….

[John_Havok]

If I shared pics you’d change your tune.

 

s*** dude, if you’re buying them they better be hot. Who wants to pay for an ugly.

[Carlos Danger]

My Facebook gets flooded daily with people posting about how we need to really support Canada’s second amendment rights to gun ownership. I can’t even….

 

I wonder how many Canadians when they get arrested ask for their Miranda rights?

[Deadpool]

Schilling is an *******, and it REALLY bothers him that he's not in the hall, so that's just funny.

 

Put him in after he dies, so he can literally die mad about it.