Around Baseball 2022

[jaysblue]

Pujols hit #698

He's going to do it

 

Bet365 was giving +550 odds back in August for him reaching 700 when he was at 693. Put $20 down. Should have wagered more haha.

[KevinGregg]

Pujols hit #698

He's going to do it

 

Has anyone been watching the games, are pitchers giving him meatballs, like all star game style or are these home runs totally legit?

[Daniel Labude]

Has anyone been watching the games, are pitchers giving him meatballs, like all star game style or are these home runs totally legit?

 

On purpose no...but facing Pit and Cin, he is getting perfect meatballs lol

[Laika]

Has anyone been watching the games, are pitchers giving him meatballs, like all star game style or are these home runs totally legit?

 

Almost all of these are important. Like to tie the game or take the lead. No cheapies

 

He’s also murdering them like he’s 30 years old

[Solaxys]

Pujols batting 2nd today (facing a lefty); Cards wanted to give him more ABs today.

[Stangstag]

Pujols batting 2nd today (facing a lefty); Cards wanted to give him more ABs today.

 

Walked twice, starter was pulled early and then he faced righties rest of the game. 3 groundouts

[Solaxys]

Walked twice, starter was pulled early and then he faced righties rest of the game. 3 groundouts

 

yup Minor decided to just not give him anything to hit lol

[Solaxys]

Adames hits a 3-run bomb; 3 - 0 Brewers

[Sammy225]

3run homer for brewers.

[Solaxys]

Brew win (Jays 4.5 GB); Rays win; Mariners currently losing.

[Spanky__99]

Brew win (Jays 4.5 GB); Rays win; Mariners currently losing.

 

Ohtani vs Kirby, this is great TV.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Spanky99

[DigitalRock]

4.5 games back, It’s on boys

[jaysguy44]

4.5 games back, It’s on boys

Crazy, who would have thought?

[G-Snarls]

Crazy, who would have thought?

 

Yankees haven't even been that bad past week and a half

 

Jays have just been better

[Spanky__99]

Yankees haven't even been that bad past week and a half

 

Jays have just been better

 

Sure have... 4.5 back with 16/17 to play is a tall order.

[Solaxys]

Ohtani just doing it all

[DigitalRock]

Sure have... 4.5 back with 16/17 to play is a tall order.

 

It is we lay them again that series will be key, but all games are important now

[Spanky__99]

Angels BP... Ughh

[Spanky__99]

Aaron Loup closes out the M's... thanks ole buddy!

[Stangstag]

Another good night!

[Grant77]

This Twins and Indians game is wild. You don't see many go to the 14th anymore.

[Spanky__99]

This Twins and Indians game is wild. You don't see many go to the 14th anymore.

 

2nd game of a DH... BP's are gassed.

[Solaxys]

To the 15th!

 

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Holy moly, what a play by Urshela.

 

And Guardians win because Palacios boots it.

Edited September 18, 2022 by Solaxys

[Olerud363]

Bichette is a great player, but this is the only season of his career that he deserves to be mentioned in the same sentence as Soto. They are on completely different levels.

 

Well WAR doesn't have them on completely different levels. They've only had 2 complete seasons in the league together, 2021 and 2022 and over that span Soto is ahead 10 fWAR to 9.5.

 

So over the 2021/22 seasons, which is 2 seasons they do deserve to be in the same sentence.

 

In 2019 according to fWAR they were about even per game.

in 2020 according to fWAR Soto was way ahead. He was having a Ted Williams, Barry Bonds on horse steroids season but it got cut short.

 

Hitting for average - even

Hitting for power - even

defense - Bo is ahead just on account of so far sticking at short stop. Average short stop is more valuable then average outfielder

base running - Bo

Walks - Soto by 100 per year.

 

2 players who are even hitting for average and power, one walks 100 times more per year, one can play short stop and better defense. Does it make sense that the walks guy is 6 WAR guy, and the short stop is 5 WAR?

 

I think people assume someday Soto ceiling is the Ted Williams, Barry Bonds on horse steroids level. He's very young still and shown that in 50 game spurts.

 

But what is Bo's ceiling? Like improving his defense a bit and getting 220 hits 85 extra base hits hitting .320?

 

Soto isn't Mike Trout/Barry Bonds or anything yet. The argument is based on him doing things he did in 50 games, in 150, but What if Bo does things he's done in 50 games in 150?

[BlueJays]

Yankees and M's lost. That was a good day. Hopefully the Jays win again.

[Stangstag]

Yankees and M's lost. That was a good day. Hopefully the Jays win again.

 

Yep keep it rolling. I want the Yanks to be sweating during that final series with us in a couple weeks

[John_Havok]

Well WAR doesn't have them on completely different levels. They've only had 2 complete seasons in the league together, 2021 and 2022 and over that span Soto is ahead 10 fWAR to 9.5.

 

So over the 2021/22 seasons, which is 2 seasons they do deserve to be in the same sentence.

 

In 2019 according to fWAR they were about even per game.

in 2020 according to fWAR Soto was way ahead. He was having a Ted Williams, Barry Bonds on horse steroids season but it got cut short.

 

Hitting for average - even

Hitting for power - even

defense - Bo is ahead just on account of so far sticking at short stop. Average short stop is more valuable then average outfielder

base running - Bo

Walks - Soto by 100 per year.

 

2 players who are even hitting for average and power, one walks 100 times more per year, one can play short stop and better defense. Does it make sense that the walks guy is 6 WAR guy, and the short stop is 5 WAR?

 

I think people assume someday Soto ceiling is the Ted Williams, Barry Bonds on horse steroids level. He's very young still and shown that in 50 game spurts.

 

But what is Bo's ceiling? Like improving his defense a bit and getting 220 hits 85 extra base hits hitting .320?

 

Soto isn't Mike Trout/Barry Bonds or anything yet. The argument is based on him doing things he did in 50 games, in 150, but What if Bo does things he's done in 50 games in 150?

 

Just use wOBA and wRC and boil your argument down into 1 sentence. Soto has been demonstrably better than Bo with the stick and it’s not really close. Defense Bo closes the gap a bit although I really don’t think Soto is as bad a defender as his numbers show this season, seasons past he’s been right around average. Chances are he won’t be Manny Ramirez bad going forward.

[bendera3]

Just use wOBA and wRC and boil your argument down into 1 sentence. Soto has been demonstrably better than Bo with the stick and it’s not really close. Defense Bo closes the gap a bit although I really don’t think Soto is as bad a defender as his numbers show this season, seasons past he’s been right around average. Chances are he won’t be Manny Ramirez bad going forward.

 

Olerud is incapable of only typing one sentence.

[BlueJays]

Amazing. Marines got Swept by the Angels.

 

EDIT: Oh wait. It's a 4-game series.

[Olerud363]

Just use wOBA and wRC and boil your argument down into 1 sentence. Soto has been demonstrably better than Bo with the stick and itÂ’s not really close. Defense Bo closes the gap a bit although I really donÂ’t think Soto is as bad a defender as his numbers show this season, seasons past heÂ’s been right around average. Chances are he wonÂ’t be Manny Ramirez bad going forward.

 

I did boil it down to one sentence. All I said at first was Soto is 5.9 fWAR per 162, and Bichette was 5.1.

 

Some people think Soto should be farther ahead, so just went over the ways Soto is better and the ways Bo is better and asked if it makes sense that they are that close...