2021/2022 Free Agency Thread

[John_Havok]

The Reds have still not been properly shamed for giving him away for free as a salary dump last offseason.

 

No kidding. Such a poorly run franchise.

 

Should be a lot of updates in the next while about QO rejections. deadline to accept/reject is in 40 minutes.

[L54]

The Reds have still not been properly shamed for giving him away for free as a salary dump last offseason.

 

Free pick for employing one of the best relievers in baseball

 

Kyle Boddy should just become the GM. I'm sure he would have more success running the whole org.

[TwistedLogic]

[G-Snarls]

 

So he'll be the only one looks like

[John_Havok]

So he'll be the only one looks like

 

Likely. Freeman, Ray and Verlander have not technically rejected yet, but ... no way those guys accept.

[G-Snarls]

Likely. Freeman, Ray and Verlander have not technically rejected yet, but ... no way those guys accept.

 

Exactly

[John_Havok]

Exactly

 

And just confirmed officially, everyone except Belt rejected.

[Jays24]

Verlander re-signing with Astros on reported 1-year, $25M deal

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2228219

[G-Snarls]

[tazsub3]

 

How can anyone even argue about that! for a single season he is and by far.

[Krylian]

 

I kinda feel like an outsider for not being blocked by Stroman yet.

[Stangstag]

I kinda feel like an outsider for not being blocked by Stroman yet.

 

Just tweet that Manoah is the best jays pitcher to wear number 6

[Brownie19]

Under the radar SPs with s*** numbers that I like:

 

Kikuchi

Wacha

Lorenzen

Junis

 

Add Jon Gray to this list. Gray and Kikuchi are 2 of the best 'upside' plays available (who won't cost $20M AAV). I wouldn't be upset if we signed both to fill out the rotation. I like Lorenzen as a pen arm also.

Edited November 18, 2021 by Brownie19

[EastCoaster]

Looks like the Yankees and Dodgers might be heading into bidding war for Corey Seager as per MLB.com

[glory]

Under the radar SPs with s*** numbers that I like:

 

Kikuchi

Wacha

Lorenzen

Junis

 

Could definitely see Atkins going after Kikuchi.

[Scion]

 

To be fair, that is a clear attempt at baiting Stroman. Why even tweet that? Just say Marcus is having one of the best seasons by a Jay ever.

[L54]

To be fair, that is a clear attempt at baiting Stroman. Why even tweet that? Just say Marcus is having one of the best seasons by a Jay ever.

 

Nobody has ever trolled anybody on Twitter

[Spanky99]

To be fair, that is a clear attempt at baiting Stroman. Why even tweet that? Just say Marcus is having one of the best seasons by a Jay ever.

 

Dude... you're in our Dynasty Hockey league, what gives?

[BigCecil]

Aaron f***ing Loup gets 2/17mm deal from LAA?

 

The volatility of relievers. I mean good for him he has secured his families financial future out of the pen.

 

Thought he was a nightmare most of the time when he pitched for us, but last year so dominant.

[saskjayfan]

Aaron f***ing Loup gets 2/17mm deal from LAA?

 

The volatility of relievers. I mean good for him he has secured his families financial future out of the pen.

 

Thought he was a nightmare most of the time when he pitched for us, but last year so dominant.

 

I know...Andrew Miller was one of the most dominant relievers for 6 straight years and at age 33 it was just gone. Loup is 34 next year. I highly doubt he will be able to give up so few homers next year. He was really good last year, but I'm glad the Angels signed him and not us.

[G-Snarls]

[Stangstag]

 

I fully expect him to sign back with the Mets

[Ehjays]

Steven Matz Expected To Sign This Week

By Anthony Franco | November 22, 2021 at 8:53pm CDT

 

The free agent starting pitching market has moved very quickly over the offseason’s first few weeks, and it seems another domino could soon fall. Southpaw Steven Matz is likely to pick his destination before Thanksgiving, reports Joel Sherman of the New York Post (Twitter link).

 

Interest in Matz has been robust, with the Red Sox, incumbent Blue Jays, Mets, Dodgers, Cardinals and Angels among teams already rumored to have interest. Jon Heyman of the MLB Network adds the Tigers, Cubs and Giants to that mix. The Mets have put forth a formal offer, although they’re joined in that regard by seven other clubs, according to Anthony DiComo of MLB.com (on Twitter).

 

Matz is coming off a nice season in Toronto, rebounding from an awful 2020 campaign to toss 150 2/3 innings of 3.82 ERA ball. The 30-year-old didn’t miss too many bats, but he only walked 6.6% of opponents and induced grounders at a solid 45.5% clip. Matz’s 4.12 SIERA wasn’t quite as impressive as his ERA, but both his actual run prevention and peripherals have typically hovered right around 4.00.

 

That’s valuable mid-rotation production, although Matz has previously had some issues with the long ball. Home runs weren’t an issue in 2021, but he served up an astonishing 14 round-trippers in just 30 2/3 frames with the Mets in 2020. That showing seemingly marked for an ugly end to a generally solid tenure in Queens, but the New York front office apparently has interest in bringing him back into the fold after his bounceback showing this year.

 

Each of the Tigers, Cubs and Giants entered the offseason known to be targeting rotation help. The Cubs claimed Wade Miley off waivers from the division-rival Reds. Detroit has already signed Eduardo Rodríguez, while San Francisco has reunited with Anthony DeSclafani and are seemingly on the verge of a deal with Alex Wood. None of that trio has as marked a rotation need as they did just two weeks ago, but there’s enough uncertainty on all three clubs’ staffs that they can and probably will make another rotation addition of some sort this winter.

 

The Jays considered making Matz an $18.4MM qualifying offer but ultimately decided against it. Toronto won’t receive a compensatory pick if he were to sign elsewhere, then, while adding Matz wouldn’t cost another team a draft pick.

[Key22]

I'd rather the money we give to him partially go to Ray/Gausman. One elite arm is better than two mediocrities. We're not trying to make the playoffs we're trying to win when get there. Ideally, I'd like two of Ray/Gausman/Sherzer. Roll up the Brinks truck. Stripling when healthy is probably as good as Matz. I don't want to commit 3 years to a 5th starter.

[Ehjays]

Looks like the Jays do in fact have an offer on the table for Matz along with several others.

 

Steven Matz Weighing Multiple Offers, Expects To Sign This Week

By Anthony Franco | November 23, 2021 at 10:01am CDT

 

Nov. 23: Matz is weighing offers from each of the Giants, Red Sox, Blue Jays, Tigers, Cubs, Cardinals, Angels and Mets, Heyman tweets. The Giants’ offer remains on the table even after re-signing DeSclafani.

 

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/11/steven-matz-expected-to-sign-this-week.html

[THANOS]

I'd rather the money we give to him partially go to Ray/Gausman. One elite arm is better than two mediocrities. We're not trying to make the playoffs we're trying to win when get there. Ideally, I'd like two of Ray/Gausman/Sherzer. Roll up the Brinks truck. Stripling when healthy is probably as good as Matz. I don't want to commit 3 years to a 5th starter.

 

This.

 

What upside is there to Matz at this point? His velocity is good at 94-96 and he's still a #5 starter on a good team. There's not much more to him, he doesn't miss a lot of bats.

[Deadpool]

This.

 

What upside is there to Matz at this point? His velocity is good at 94-96 and he's still a #5 starter on a good team. There's not much more to him, he doesn't miss a lot of bats.

 

Reasonably priced depth.

 

Would I prefer to have Ray or Gausman on the team? Obviously, but there's a place for a pitcher like Matz on every team.

[Brownie19]

This.

 

What upside is there to Matz at this point? His velocity is good at 94-96 and he's still a #5 starter on a good team. There's not much more to him, he doesn't miss a lot of bats.

 

Good teams need 8-9 starters each year. Also he provided us with 2.8 WAR last year, which was 46th overall in MLB last year (for pitchers). He finished ahead of Ryu, Bieber, Sonny Gray, Pablo Lopez and just behind Yu Darvish and Ohtani. While he may pencil in as our #5 to start the year, he may spend a portion of the year as our 3rd best starter. He may also finish the year out of the rotation.

 

I'm all for adding Ray or Gausman (or both if we somehow have the cash), but you can't just discount the value of depth in the rotation.

[max silver]

This.

 

What upside is there to Matz at this point? His velocity is good at 94-96 and he's still a #5 starter on a good team. There's not much more to him, he doesn't miss a lot of bats.

 

Let's give credit where credit is due. If Matz can recreate his 2021 numbers he's more like a mid rotation pitcher on a good team.

[L54]

Nothing wrong with Matz @ 3/36