Jays acquire Corey Dickerson and Adam Cimber

[RustyTrombone]

According to Craig Mish the Jays have traded for Corey Dickerson. Also picking up Cimber. Panik and a minor leaguer heading the Marlins way.

[King]

Plan the parade

[Muck Bartinez]

The meh-est of meh's.

[Jays24]

We need another outfielder?

Is this a salary dump for the Marlins of Dickerson in order to get the reliever?

Does this mean Dickerson will become our 4th OFer because we are trading Gurriel or Grichuk for a starting pitcher?

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Stand alone deal is meh but it could just be just acquiring some assets to fill in some voids from a bigger trade?

[RustyTrombone]

I mean it IS an upgrade. The team is better with Cimber and Dickerson now.

[Deadpool]

According to Craig Mish the Jays have traded for Corey Dickerson. Also picking up Cimber. Panik and a minor leaguer heading the Marlins way.

 

I honestly don't care about anything else. This is a win just by getting Panik off the team.

[AI9764]

Subtract Panik and add Cimber? Nice. Stripling will be pleased.

[G-Snarls]

A low strikeout reliever and an outfielder who is currently on the IL

 

I don't get it

 

Panik gone is the only good news. Saving Charlie from himself.

[Brownie19]

We need another outfielder?

Is this a salary dump for the Marlins of Dickerson in order to get the reliever?

Does this mean Dickerson will become our 4th OFer because we are trading Gurriel or Grichuk for a starting pitcher?

 

Take a deep breath - there is no need to read into this so much.

[King]

A low strikeout reliever and an outfielder who is currently on the IL

 

I don't get it

 

Panik gone is the only good news. Saving Charlie from himself.

 

Dickerson is just a dump from the Marlins. Cimber is servicable. Not everyone has to strikeout 15 per 9. He gets groundballs and provides a different arm slot look out of the pen.

[RustyTrombone]

A low strikeout reliever and an outfielder who is currently on the IL

 

I don't get it

 

Panik gone is the only good news. Saving Charlie from himself.

 

At least Cimber is a low walk guy for his career. Wont come in and walk 3 guys in an inning like everyone else in our pen. And Dickerson is wayyy better than Panik who was providing nothing for the team.

[AI9764]

And he keeps the ball in the park. Raises the floor of the pen by a solid chunk.

[Terminator]

Cimber is a decent reliever and has 3 more years of control after this year. Acquiring him for what appears to be taking on the rest of Dickerson’s modest salary this year seems like a decent move.

[Jays24]

Take a deep breath - there is no need to read into this so much.

 

Loll... makes sense to read into it when Shatkins said get ready for some moves. It does make sense to add Dickerson's left handed bat as our 4th outfielder and then trade from a position of strength (Gurriel/Grichuk) for a good pitcher. It's happening... book it!

[Deadpool]

Basically we get an upgrade reliever (not a great one, but an upgrade over the Carl Edwards Jr.s that we've been tossing out), remove Panik, move Biggio back to full time 3B, and have Dickerson as a bench piece (probably playing the OF whenever Biggio would have in the past...)

 

We're replacing Panik's 76 wRC+ with Dickerson's 101 wRC+, and adding some needed bullpen help. Hopefully the minor leaguer isn't anyone of consequence, but I can't imagine that it would be considering the return.

[The Cats Ass]

I think Cimber is a good fit with all our hard throwers. The lack of K’s isn’t concerning. He doesn’t walk guys, and he's very good at limiting hard contact, and extremely tough to barrel up.

 

[gruber92]

Dickerson is outfield depth and a LHB that can pinch it and spot start (that's if he isn't sent to AAA, not sure what his options are). Cimber appears to be serviceable 6th - 7th inning type. Minor move that makes us a little better.

[glory]

I just saw Panik going the other way and it’s already a win. Don’t even care who the Jays got back.

[Stangstag]

The absolute madman. Atkins did it. He finally took away Charlie's favourite toy.

 

A++ move

[mellowgold]

Do we know who the minor leaguer is? PTBNL I assume?

[BTS]

Cimber is probably going to stick around for a few years, hopefully as the 6th or 7th best reliever in the bullpen for most of the time. If the acquisition cost was mostly just paying Dickerson for the rest of the season, then this is a nice little move. And Dickerson isn't necessarily a sunk cost RoS either.

[RustyTrombone]

Something interesting I noticed about Cimber, in 2018 when he was with the Padres he was K'ing over a batter per inning in 50 innings then he got traded to Cleveland and his K rate tanked. Pitch mix says he started throwing alot more sinkers and less 4 seamers and sliders. K rate hasnt really recovered since. Wonder if there is potential in him to K more batters with some pitch mix adjustments.

 

Maybe Pete Walker can unlock some of that strikeout stuff again.

[Laika]

Cimber is a decent reliever and has 3 more years of control after this year. Acquiring him for what appears to be taking on the rest of Dickerson’s modest salary this year seems like a decent move.

 

Absolutely. Cimber is a pretty big upgrade on (pick your worst current reliever). It's good to get a different look in the pen too. And guys like him who DON'T rely on wicked spin just got a league relative skill upgrade because of the new foreign substance rules (he didn't get better but a good number of his peers got worse; yes there is an assumption here, maybe Cimber used the sticky stuff and I don't know).

 

Dickerson is also a pretty f***ing good hitter who has made himself into a playable left fielder. Capable of hitting .300 with power. A fantastic platoon option for the struggling Gurriel. Yeah, Dickerson's game is flawed but he's not a zero. Better at baseball than Joe Panik right now.

[Deadpool]

Chuckles is going to have to re-write his lineup card, since he probably had Panik pencilled in as the DH batting 4th for tonight...

[DigitalRock]

Absolutely. Cimber is a pretty big upgrade on (pick your worst current reliever). It's good to get a different look in the pen too. And guys like him who DON'T rely on wicked spin just got a league relative skill upgrade because of the new foreign substance rules (he didn't get better but a good number of his peers got worse; yes there is an assumption here, maybe Cimber used the sticky stuff and I don't know).

 

Dickerson is also a pretty f***ing good hitter who has made himself into a playable left fielder. Capable of hitting .300 with power. A fantastic platoon option for the struggling Gurriel. Yeah, Dickerson's game is flawed but he's not a zero. Better at baseball than Joe Panik right now.

 

Agree with everything you said here...Good albeit minor move, team is a little better after this .

[metafour]

[BTS]

 

Who's Andrew McInvale?

[Laika]

Sounds like the minor leaguer is RHP Andrew McInvale

 

That's a legit "who?" guy from me.

 

Late pick in 2019. AA reliever with lots of K's this year. Probably has some semblance of stuff.

[saskjayfan]

I think Cimber is a good fit with all our hard throwers. The lack of KÂ’s isnÂ’t concerning. He doesnÂ’t walk guys, and he's very good at limiting hard contact, and extremely tough to barrel up.

 

 

We've had too many games where relievers have just walked the bases loaded. Having a reliever that's not going to give up the walks makes me happy. We're taking on 4 mil in Salary for Dickerson. I would have preferred to take on salary for a more useful player, but at least we got rid of Panik.