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Irv sucks balls...the next team he faces will get 6 off him.

I take it you haven't been watching tonight, then.

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Is it a slow gun tonight or has Thornton's fastball been s***?

 

Thornton's velo has been way down this season. He also throws a ton of cutters, but he used to sit 92-93 as a starter and now he basically tops out at 93 out of the bullpen.

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Just got in. I'm surprised the Jays didn't fare better against Irvin. I thought he'd be a favorable match up for them

 

not really. Just ask King.

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not really. Just ask King.

As a general rule of thumb, elite pitchers aren't favorable matchups for hitters.

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As a general rule of thumb, elite pitchers aren't favorable matchups for hitters.

 

Any pitcher can dominate in one game when he has his best stuff, especially when balls get his 109 off the bat and find a glove instead of leaving the yard or at least getting you double.

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Any pitcher can dominate in one game when he has his best stuff, especially when balls get his 109 off the bat and find a glove instead of leaving the yard or at least getting you double.

Lol? He's only given up two batted balls with a 100+ MPH exit velo (one of those was a double). And 3 more between 90 MPH and 100 MPH. 12 balls in play were under 90 MPH exit velo. This isn't batted ball luck. Are you even watching?

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Man, Danny Jansen's just an automatic out. The league's got him figured out.

Can’t hit for average, can’t hit for power. Disgusting with the bat.

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Can’t hit for average, can’t hit for power. Disgusting with the bat.

 

Need Kirk back bad :(

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Man, Danny Jansen's just an automatic out. The league's got him figured out.

 

I don't think the league figured him out so much as he just completely forgot how to hit or lost whatever strength he used to have to drive the baseball.

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I've never been a proponent for roboumps, but dear lord. Some of these umps are TERRIBLE. As if it isn't hard enough to hit in this day and age as it is
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Lol? He's only given up two batted balls with a 100+ MPH exit velo (one of those was a double). And 3 more between 90 MPH and 100 MPH. 12 balls in play were under 90 MPH exit velo. This isn't batted ball luck. Are you even watching?

 

I'm not saying he was bad tonight. He hit his spots and was very good. I'm saying show me that over 15 starts. This was probably the best start he'll have all year.

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I'm not saying he was bad tonight. He hit his spots and was very good. I'm saying show me that over 15 starts. This was probably the best start he'll have all year.

You literally just chalked up his good start to batted ball luck. Do you not read what you post before you hit send?

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I don't think the league figured him out so much as he just completely forgot how to hit or lost whatever strength he used to have to drive the baseball.

 

I dunno. He always sucked, but he was able to run into a few every now and again. I haven't been watching closely enough to know where his holes are, but the league certainly seems to have figured out where to pitch him.

 

If the Jays are serious about competing, they're going to have to do something about the catching. I don't think Kirk's the answer either.

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Jansen should probably be optioned to AAA, but he might stick because of Kirks injury.

 

Kirk got injured at possibly the worst possible time for his career

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I dunno. He always sucked, but he was able to run into a few every now and again. I haven't been watching closely enough to know where his holes are, but the league certainly seems to have figured out where to pitch him.

 

If the Jays are serious about competing, they're going to have to do something about the catching. I don't think Kirk's the answer either.

 

Why isn't kirk the answer? The kid doesn't strike out and he hits the ball hard. Even early when his numbers were crap, he wasn't striking out. It was only a matter of time that he broke out.

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