General Blue Jays Discussion Thread (2021)

[Laika]

I think the team is committed to letting Bo figure it out at SS. Semien is probably gone next year...Martin plays 3rd next year with Biggio back at 2nd. I'm sure there's a handshake agreement to leave Semien at 2nd this year - but I'd rather see him at 3rd with Biggio back at his natural position.

 

I'm not saying it will happen, I'm saying it should happen.

 

I could see them flipping Bo and Semien at some point this year though if things get really ugly for Bo.

[Daniel Labude]

I think the team is committed to letting Bo figure it out at SS. Semien is probably gone next year...Martin plays 3rd next year with Biggio back at 2nd. I'm sure there's a handshake agreement to leave Semien at 2nd this year - but I'd rather see him at 3rd with Biggio back at his natural position.

 

They went away from Martin pretty quick at 3B during spring training i thought

[Spanky99]

I wonder what Bryant will cost. Cubs were wise to again, not listen to the wisdom of this board and trade him for peanuts.

 

Why would they listen to this board, dummy?

[Spanky99]

They went away from Martin pretty quick at 3B during spring training i thought

 

Yeah, it was Spring training?

[Slade]

They went away from Martin pretty quick at 3B during spring training i thought

 

That could be cause they wanted Biggio at 3B, Martin has the best natural actions for 3B.

[Spanky99]

That could be cause they wanted Biggio at 3B, Martin has the best natural actions for 3B.

 

Yup, it was for this season, nothing will change.

[Eat My Shatkins]

What the f*** is wrong with Gurriel?

 

.410 OPS?

13 WRC+?

 

Jesus guy, get your f***ing s*** together.

[Eat My Shatkins]

If guys like Gurriel, Jansen, Biggio and Hernandez can't be at least replacement level, this team is a lot further away than we'd hoped. Still early, but f*** have they ever been bad so far.

[Spanky99]

If guys like Gurriel, Jansen, Biggio and Hernandez can't be at least replacement level, this team is a lot further away than we'd hoped. Still early, but f*** have they ever been bad so far.

 

April 25th.

[Stangstag]

What the f*** is wrong with Gurriel?

 

.410 OPS?

13 WRC+?

 

Jesus guy, get your f***ing s*** together.

 

He seems to be a notorious slow starter. His April of 2019 was also abysmal, and he proceeded to crush the ball in May.

[Olerud363]

If guys like Gurriel, Jansen, Biggio and Hernandez can't be at least replacement level, this team is a lot further away than we'd hoped. Still early, but f*** have they ever been bad so far.

 

Outside of 40 game stretch last year, the team has been awful offensively under the current coaching staff.

 

A lot of guys have absolutely tanked. Team on base percentage was .305 in 2019, .299 this year.

 

What struck me in 2019 guys like Mckinney and Brandon Drury not being able to maintain a .300 obp... which hurts a tonne. Yes they suck, but projections and career stats indicated .250 .310 .400 0.5 WAR suck.. not .260 on base percentages.

 

This year it's Gurriel, Hernandez, Jansen, Biggio, Panik, Kirk. As a group they could of been expected to put up a .330 obp, and it's more like .250.

 

There is value in being able to hit .250 .300 .420 instead of .200 .250 .320... both suck, but can win with the former if you have stars, the latter will tank the team.

 

Still early, hopefully this all changes.

[Spanky99]

lol

[Olerud363]

lol

 

?

 

I concede it;s early, but you can't have guys putting up .250 on base percentages... you definitely can't have a group of 5 putting up a combined .250 on base percentage.

 

Ironically I'd hire Murph and Cito to coach Gurriel, Hernandez, and Jansen while keeping them away from everyone else. Jansen could probably be well served to try to use their approach, try to kill the 3rd base coach, hit one foul into the third deck etc. Pull dat ball! Better then what he is doing.

 

On the other hand you wouldn't want Cito messing with Kirk, Biggio, Bichette, Vlad,

 

Anyone who is a naturally decent hitter, who could hit to all fields and get on base, you need to never let Cito near...

 

However if there are guys hitting worse then Joe Carter, and Cito can make them into Joe Carter, then you let Cito give them advice.

 

Hire Cito as consultant for a few guys,... Or maybe just get Dante back

[Olerud363]

Cito wants everyone to be Joe Carter or a young Cito... so the entire team hits .250 with a .300 on base percentage

 

Of course if he thinks you are a hall of famer he let's you be... so Vladdy might be safe (Delgado seemed to be safe)

 

But if Bichette was hitting .300 and Biggio .250 with lots of walks, and Kirk came around and hit .290 with walks Cito would be pissed at them... pull that f***ing ball. Stop clogging the bases. Hit like Joe!

 

On the other hand guys that are hitting .190 with a .240 on base percentage.. htting like Joe Carter would be an improvement.

 

Hire Cito to make everyone hitting worse than Joe Carter hit like Joe Carter! Everyone better then Joe Carter doesn't get lessons from Cito... that way the worse player is Joe Carter.

[Eat My Shatkins]

April 25th.

 

I literally said "still early" in the post you quoted.

[Jays24]

Blue Jays' Ryu exits vs. Rays with minor glute strain

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2160986

 

Minor glute strain is not something you see often lol.

[Ryu In My House]

Blue Jays' Ryu exits vs. Rays with minor glute strain

https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2160986

 

Minor glute strain is not something you see often lol.

 

it's a pain in the ass.

 

Sorry. I will show myself out.

[Deadpool]

it's a pain in the ass.

 

Sorry. I will show myself out.

 

Y'know what? I admire the simplicity... I was trying to think of some kind of pegging joke, but yours is better.

[WryNGinger]

Did Springer play at the alt site today? Any word on how it went if he did?

[Laika]

Did Springer play at the alt site today? Any word on how it went if he did?

 

Shi Davidi says Springer ruptured both of his testicles sliding into first base. Day to day

[THANOS]

Poor Ryu

[BlueRocky]

Did Springer play at the alt site today? Any word on how it went if he did?

 

[djrobertson21]

Blue Jays' George Springer: Good chance to return Tuesday

 

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/blue-jays-george-springer-good-chance-to-return-tuesday/

[tazsub3]

Shi Davidi says Springer ruptured both of his testicles sliding into first base. Day to day

 

Shame he aint a horse, they would have gelded him and he would be ready to go tomorrow

[G-Snarls]

Blue Jays' George Springer: Good chance to return Tuesday

 

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/blue-jays-george-springer-good-chance-to-return-tuesday/

 

Tuesday sounds great right about now

[The Iceman]

I'm not saying it will happen, I'm saying it should happen.

 

I could see them flipping Bo and Semien at some point this year though if things get really ugly for Bo.

 

Things are ugly for BB on D.

He should have a few more errors tied to him.

On the last out Saturday he threw up the line forcing Vlad to swip tag on a routine play.

GET HIM OFF SS sooner rather than later. If you are serious about winning this year the team needs a better left side. Management knows it but does not have the balls to do anyhing about it.

 

Coinincidence Bo's 2 sits this year are with groundball machine Ryu on the mound?

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Things are ugly for BB on D.

He should have a few more errors tied to him.

On the last out Saturday he threw up the line forcing Vlad to swip tag on a routine play.

GET HIM OFF SS sooner rather than later. If you are serious about winning this year the team needs a better left side. Management knows it but does not have the balls to do anyhing about it.

 

Coinincidence Bo's 2 sits this year are with groundball machine Ryu on the mound?

 

This front office has shown they are in it for the long term, therefore I doubt Bo gets moved off SS in the foreseeable future. Especially for a player who most likely is a one and done as a Jay.

[Deadpool]

Things are ugly for BB on D.

He should have a few more errors tied to him.

On the last out Saturday he threw up the line forcing Vlad to swip tag on a routine play.

GET HIM OFF SS sooner rather than later. If you are serious about winning this year the team needs a better left side. Management knows it but does not have the balls to do anyhing about it.

 

Coinincidence Bo's 2 sits this year are with groundball machine Ryu on the mound?

 

I don't think "winning this year" was ever the plan...

[Spanky99]

I don't think "winning this year" was ever the plan...

 

A title no, but a series or two works.

[Deadpool]

A title no, but a series or two works.

 

I won't be angry if it happens or anything, I just don't think they built the team to win it all this year specifically... Getting Bo enough reps to be a decent-to-great SS is probably part of the plan to work towards that title in the next few seasons.