Blue Jays sign George Springer to a 6 year, $150M deal

[G-Snarls]

lol, 5/$115 for Springer would be sweet.

 

Damn right

[Jays24]

We are not getting Springer for 5/115 man lol. Please up the offers before you lose out on all the key players...

[G-Snarls]

Pay Springer

 

Trade for Bryant

 

Yes yes yes

[Spanky99]

You guys sure went into detail on the grass turf topic, lol. CD it was never feasible to get grass in the Dome, the drainage and re-construction of the plumbing would cost 100's of millions.

[Spanky99]

We are not getting Springer for 5/115 man lol. Please up the offers before you lose out on all the key players...

 

Well, Toronto aren't going to bid against themselves.

[G-Snarls]

Well, Toronto aren't going to bid against themselves.

 

At that price other teams probably find a way

[connorp]

Just offer 5 and 125 and get it done.

 

Doubt that it gets it done but I don’t think there’s anything insulting about 5/115 as an initial offer. So maybe they go to $130 at the most, likely 5/125 though.

 

Not sure if there’s any dark horses. All you see if there’s only 2 teams in the mix but not everyone wants to let the world know their business like the Jays

[Spanky99]

At that price other teams probably find a way

 

That's when they counter, sounds like Mets are out.

[glory]

If the Mets are out, then I don't see any other logical spot for Springer. Teams that have holes in the OF probably don't want to spend $100+ mil right now to fill it. The Mets could start the season as is or just sign JBJ and still be one of the better teams in the NL. The Jays seem to be in a pretty decent spot with him, but who really knows. IIRC, they offered 4/80 to Ryu early and didn't budge on it, then Ryu came back to them later and accepted it. I could see a similar scenario playing out with Springer if the Mets have truly moved on. Springer doesn't strike me as someone who is going to take less money to avoid Toronto, he will probably go where the money is, so as long as the Jays are the top bidder, they are in the driver's seat.

[Spanky99]

If the Mets are out, then I don't see any other logical spot for Springer. Teams that have holes in the OF probably don't want to spend $100+ mil right now to fill it. The Mets could start the season as is or just sign JBJ and still be one of the better teams in the NL. The Jays seem to be in a pretty decent spot with him, but who really knows. IIRC, they offered 4/80 to Ryu early and didn't budge on it, then Ryu came back to them later and accepted it. I could see a similar scenario playing out with Springer if the Mets have truly moved on. Springer doesn't strike me as someone who is going to take less money to avoid Toronto, he will probably go where the money is, so as long as the Jays are the top bidder, they are in the driver's seat.

 

INB4... CD tells us he's a local boy and he's going to the Mets.

[Deadpool]

We are not getting Springer for 5/115 man lol. Please up the offers before you lose out on all the key players...

 

With the Mets (presumably) out now, who are the other suitors for Springer? Might have to accept what the Jays are offering, or try for a pillow contract.

[Jays24]

With the Mets (presumably) out now, who are the other suitors for Springer? Might have to accept what the Jays are offering, or try for a pillow contract.

 

I think he'd rather opt for a 1 year deal and try his luck again next offseason if we're severely undervaluing him considering there should be more money available.

 

If we lose out on him now considering we should be the main option left, it would be depressing. Go get your man if you really believe in him.

[Deadpool]

I think he'd rather opt for a 1 year deal and try his luck again next offseason when there should be more money available. If we lose out on him now considering we should be the main option left, it would be depressing.

 

He's going to be another year older next year, so this is his best opportunity to cash in. He might try that, but it might end up backfiring on him.

 

I'm probably okay at 5/125, but I'm also probably out at 5/150. If he takes that rumoured 5/115, I'm quite happy.

[Jays24]

He's going to be another year older next year, so this is his best opportunity to cash in. He might try that, but it might end up backfiring on him.

 

I'm probably okay at 5/125, but I'm also probably out at 5/150. If he takes that rumoured 5/115, I'm quite happy.

 

Agreed, he's not at an age where wasting another year will do him well.

 

No one wants to go 5/150 for him but 5/125 to 130 seems like the best he can do at this stage.

[Brownie19]

If he'd take $125M, I can't imagine the Jays to lose him over $10M ($2M/yr).

[glory]

The price can only come down so far until teams like SF, WAS, ATL and STL start sniffing around.

 

I don't think the Jays would lower their offer if the Mets decide to bow out, so it really depends on whether the rumored 5/115 is the best deal out there for him, and how close the 2nd best offer is.

 

I don't think there's a chance in hell he takes a one year deal at his age.

[Jays24]

I think other teams would get involved at 5/115.

 

I'm sure most teams thought they'd be priced out from the start so they didn't bother to pursue Springer aggressively. But if they realize that's all it will take then I'm sure they'll try to swoop in.

 

I just want us to make it happen but let's see how things unfold. Don't let Stroman be right lol.

[glory]

I think other teams would get involved at 5/115.

 

Possible, and even the Mets might decide to shed money elsewhere if possible to make a deal happen, but based on everything out there it doesn't appear that teams are looking to spend big this winter.

[RobinThicc]

Id go up to 5/135 for Springer

[Spanky99]

Id go up to 5/135 for Springer

 

You mean 5/125, team option 25 with a 10M buyout?

[Spanky99]

Jays are signing him, they won't let him pass... welcome George Springer, f*** all naysayers.

[saskjayfan]

Jays are signing him, they won't let him pass... welcome George Springer, f*** all naysayers.

 

I agree. As much as Lindor and Carrasco would have been nice. When it wasn't us, I was glad it was the Mets because I think that takes them out of the Springer sweepstakes.

[Ehjays]

You mean 5/125, team option 25 with a 10M buyout?

 

https://sny.tv/articles/what-s-next-for-the-mets-after-trading-for-francisco-lindor-and-carlos-carrasco-

 

The main point of today is that the Mets just traded for one of the most exciting stars in baseball. Full stop. Francisco Lindor is not a Yankee or a Dodger or anything else -- he is bringing his bright light to Queens.

 

For the Mets and their fans, this is a thrill.

 

Admit it, though. You still want to know about George Springer, Trevor Bauer and other stuff.

As you know, the Mets have been negotiating with Springer for much of the offseason. According to league sources, the centerfielder is seeking approximately $175 million. The Mets, per sources, had been willing to offer a five-year deal for somewhat less than $150 million.

 

The Toronto Blue Jays, meanwhile, recently made an opening offer to Springer in the $115 million range, per sources briefed on those talks (Springer’s agent, Casey Close, did not respond to a request for comment).

 

With Lindor on board, the Mets are less likely to sign Springer. Here’s why: The team will not exceed the $210 million luxury tax threshold this offseason. We’re not sure where the notion came from that money is no object for Steve Cohen’s Mets; it certainly didn’t come from Cohen, Sandy Alderson or Jared Porter. And it is far from the truth.

 

Cohen has already spent prolifically this offseason, to the tune of about $50 million between Lindor, Carlos Carrasco, James McCann and Trevor May.

 

That brings the team’s 2021 payroll to a bit under $190 million, leaving just over $20 million of space before hitting the luxury tax. Also, and this is key, the Mets would prefer to begin the season $5-$10 million under the tax level, so they can add players during the season. That’s the industry standard and it’s particularly relevant when Springer’s asking price bumps up against that number.

 

According to sources (and basic math), signing Springer would now likely require shedding payroll in a different trade. If Springer is willing to be patient and flexible, he might yet be a Met. But the picture changed dramatically today.

 

As for Bauer? Executives around the league believe that he is hoping to break Gerrit Cole’s record of $36 million in average annual value. Please don’t tell Bauer I wrote that, as I’m not interested in a Twitter war. But it’s obviously very hard to see how the Mets find that amount of payroll now.

 

Per sources, the Mets are also now out on starting pitcher Jake Odorizzi, because Carrasco essentially takes the role that Odorizzi would have served.

[Deadpool]

Springer is a hard no for me at 5/175...

[max silver]

I'm definitely starting to get a bit nervous about how this offseason is unfolding. It's starting to feel a bit like the Jays are getting their lunch money stolen by the few teams that are willing to spend money to improve their teams. The Padres jumped in out of nowhere and snapped up Kim under the Jays noses, and then proceeded to trade for two of the most desirable starting pitchers available on the market. Now with the Mets stepping up and trading for Lindor and Carrasco (I was admittedly a bit lukewarm to this idea, but it was still fun to dream on) there are two fewer players available to Jays management to upgrade the roster with. The dual disappointments of Gausman choosing to accept the qualifying offer and Sugano going back to Japan are also making me start to question whether this front office is going to step out of their budget conscious free agency mindset and actually do what it takes to acquire their chosen targets. I'm going to be extremely displeased if the Jays end up hanging on to their money because they are too afraid to accept some risk and actually spend it. This is amplified by how Jays management has talked up their willingness to spend aggressively to upgrade the roster, it's becoming high time to put up or shut up.

[Jays24]

If those numbers are true as to where the Jays and Mets are in terms of their offer, the jays are doing what a lot of fans feared, which is make a bunch of crappy offers with very little chance they'd get accepted.

 

Like how is it a "two team race" when there's a 35 million difference between the two. Most suspect the Jays to be underdogs anyways and then you say we're offering 35 million less?

[Brownie19]

If those numbers are true as to where the Jays and Mets are in terms of their offer, the jays are doing what a lot of fans feared, which is make a bunch of crappy offers with very little chance they'd get accepted.

 

Like how is it a "two team race" when there's a 35 million difference between the two. Most suspect the Jays to be underdogs anyways and then you say we're offering 35 million less?

 

you're assuming what "somewhat less than $150M" means...

 

My advice, don't get so caught up on all of this, you'll just end up being upset. It's all reports and who knows what (if anything) is true. Just relax. It certainly seems like teams will benefit by being patient this offseason. There don't seem to be many buyers and there are lots of quality players available. The Jays have flexibility to take advantage of this, which could accelerate AND extend their competitive window if they play this right.

 

Teams that say f*** it, it's only money and overpay almost always regret it.

Edited January 8, 2021 by Brownie19

[Laika]

If those numbers are true as to where the Jays and Mets are in terms of their offer, the jays are doing what a lot of fans feared, which is make a bunch of crappy offers with very little chance they'd get accepted.

 

Like how is it a "two team race" when there's a 35 million difference between the two. Most suspect the Jays to be underdogs anyways and then you say we're offering 35 million less?

 

Read it again.

 

The Mets may not have even made an offer. It just says they were willing to pay a bit less than $150M. It also says the Jays $115M offer was an opening offer. For all we know the Jays are willing to spend a decent amount more for him if needed.

 

For all we know George Springer has one actual offer right now and it's from Toronto...

[Jimcanuck]

Jays are in a good place whether they miss out on the high priced free agents or not. Shatkins seems to be taking the sustained winning approach, I'm good with it if they decide not to overpay for free agents and reduce future flexibility.

[Carlos Danger]

Read it again.

 

The Mets may not have even made an offer. It just says they were willing to pay a bit less than $150M. It also says the Jays $115M offer was an opening offer. For all we know the Jays are willing to spend a decent amount more for him if needed.

 

The chattering class say the Jays were initially willing to go to $125.. or their forecast was $115 to $125.