Around Baseball 2021

[Laika]

Imagine if Fanatics in 2026 puts out their first mint. It's 250,000 cards in total.

 

The odds of minting the rarest cards are pretty low so while there might be something like 300 Cavan Biggios the program will only make like 10 Vladimir Guerrero Jrs.

 

By chance, only ONE animated Shohei Ohtani card gets pulled from digital packs. He just won his second MVP in 2025.

 

That card is going to sell for milllllllllions probably. Like, right away.

[Jimcanuck]

Marlins just called up Edward Cabrera, who’s going to be really good. Their starting pitching depth is ridiculous:

 

1. Sandy Alcantara

2. Trevor Rogers

3. Jesus Luzardo

4. Pablo Lopez

5. Edward Cabrera

 

And then they have Sixto Sanchez (if/when he returns), Eliaser Hernandez, Max Meyer, Zach Thompson, and Jake Eder either in the minors or currently injured. Embarrassment of riches.

 

Reports I have seen say Cabrera has better stuff than Sixto.

[Brownie19]

Imagine if Fanatics in 2026 puts out their first mint. It's 250,000 cards in total.

 

The odds of minting the rarest cards are pretty low so while there might be something like 300 Cavan Biggios the program will only make like 10 Vladimir Guerrero Jrs.

 

By chance, only ONE animated Shohei Ohtani card gets pulled from digital packs. He just won his second MVP in 2025.

 

That card is going to sell for milllllllllions probably. Like, right away.

 

Man - I have no idea what you're even talking about. I assume it's people buying digital cards and then being able to sell and trade them? I guess that's where the world is going. People paying millions of dollars for a digital image of a player seems really stupid.

[Laika]

Man - I have no idea what you're even talking about. I assume it's people buying digital cards and then being able to sell and trade them? I guess that's where the world is going. People paying millions of dollars for a digital image of a player seems really stupid.

 

https://decrypt.co/79125/ethereum-rock-jpeg-sells-for-600k-as-nft-frenzy-continues

[metafour]

Imagine if Fanatics in 2026 puts out their first mint. It's 250,000 cards in total.

 

The odds of minting the rarest cards are pretty low so while there might be something like 300 Cavan Biggios the program will only make like 10 Vladimir Guerrero Jrs.

 

By chance, only ONE animated Shohei Ohtani card gets pulled from digital packs. He just won his second MVP in 2025.

 

That card is going to sell for milllllllllions probably. Like, right away.

 

Right, but doesn't what you just described kill the joy of the hobby from day one?

 

If something is worth millions on day one just for the sheer fact that there is a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of pulling it, what is stopping a billionaire with nothing better to do from just buying up all the packs and hoarding all the ultra-rare cards? The chance of a regular collector pulling that Shohei Ohtani card will be virtually zero, as they will pushed out from competition entirely by those who can simply buy more packs. The fact that these are digital packs even takes out the physical challenge of acquiring cards that normally took place. Before, you'd need to at least put in some effort to physically obtain cards - even if you had money to burn, you'd have to physically drive around to different retailers to buy up stock, or establish connections that could get you boxes of sealed product. Now, is there anything in place that prevents a billionaire from pressing one button and buying up 90% of the released digital packs?

 

The "magic" of physical card collecting comes from the fact that anyone can pull any ultra-rare card and do as they wish with it. They can experience joy in holding it from day one (as its rarity will still be known from day one), they can play the card if it's a playable trading card game and get joy out of it that way, or if they are ultra-enthusiasts they can hold onto their collected cards for 10, 20, 30 years at which point some of those cards may become pieces of collectible history, in which case that person's passion or determination is rewarded through the means of those cards potentially being worth a lot of money. The fact that it potentially takes ~20+ years of holding something that might one day be worth something makes these physical cards a market that ANYONE can enter and invest in; on the other hand if you just impose scarcity from day one and create an environment wherein a card is potentially worth a million dollars right away just for the sheer fact that it's pull-rate is astronomically low, then you just enable a money-laundering avenue for millionaires and billionaires who can box out the regular consumer from competing for that card entirely.

[Brownie19]

https://decrypt.co/79125/ethereum-rock-jpeg-sells-for-600k-as-nft-frenzy-continues

 

Holy f***.

[Laika]

Right, but doesn't what you just described kill the joy of the hobby from day one?

 

If something is worth millions on day one just for the sheer fact that there is a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of pulling it, what is stopping a billionaire with nothing better to do from just buying up all the packs and hoarding all the ultra-rare cards? The chance of a regular collector pulling that Shohei Ohtani card will be virtually zero, as they will pushed out from competition entirely by those who can simply buy more packs. The fact that these are digital packs even takes out the physical challenge of acquiring cards that normally took place. Before, you'd need to at least put in some effort to physically obtain cards - even if you had money to burn, you'd have to physically drive around to different retailers to buy up stock, or establish connections that could get you boxes of sealed product. Now, is there anything in place that prevents a billionaire from pressing one button and buying up 90% of the released digital packs?

 

The "magic" of physical card collecting comes from the fact that anyone can pull any ultra-rare card and do as they wish with it. They can experience joy in holding it from day one (as its rarity will still be known from day one), they can play the card if it's a playable trading card game and get joy out of it that way, or if they are ultra-enthusiasts they can hold onto their collected cards for 10, 20, 30 years at which point some of those cards may become pieces of collectible history, in which case that person's passion or determination is rewarded through the means of those cards potentially being worth a lot of money. The fact that it potentially takes ~20+ years of holding something that might one day be worth something makes these physical cards a market that ANYONE can enter and invest in; on the other hand if you just impose scarcity from day one and create an environment wherein a card is potentially worth a million dollars right away just for the sheer fact that it's pull-rate is astronomically low, then you just enable a money-laundering avenue for millionaires and billionaires who can box out the regular consumer from competing for that card entirely.

 

Some of this is solved already in the NFT world. At least for some projects.

 

For example, some of the projects only allow a specific address to mint a small number of NFTs. So a billionaire can't scoop them all up unless they wait for other people to mint the entire run and then buy them on the secondary marketplace from private individuals. It's an even playing field at the time of minting - that's kind of why retail crypto enthusiasts are having so much fun in NFT land right now.

 

So no rich guy boxing out really occurs at the initial point of sale. It can occur when the rich people identify an entire project as potentially a good investment and they decide to scoop up a huge amount of the supply from the secondary market. But you probably see that happen in the physical card world. I know people who run card stores order like, truck loads of magic cards when they come out.

 

Honestly some of what you say about the physical collecting sounds like a barrier to entry to me. The parts about physically driving around, etc..

[TheHurl]

90% of card collecting is just playing slots or the lottery with about 10 percent doing it for the hobby of it.

[Stangstag]

Can we move the trading card conversation to a different thread? Feel like it doesn’t really belong here and its gone on for 2 pages now

[connorp]

Can we move the trading card conversation to a different thread? Feel like it doesn’t really belong here and its gone on for 2 pages now

 

f***ing Laila and his NFT hipster talk

[King]

https://leagueofjustice.com/texts-show-ex-angels-employee-lured-alleged-drug-dealers-to-angel-stadium-with-promises-of-memorabilia-tickets/

 

Text Messages from Eric Kay to his drug dealer are here. Big oops

 

[Carlos Danger]

Marlins just called up Edward Cabrera, who’s going to be really good. Their starting pitching depth is ridiculous:

 

1. Sandy Alcantara

2. Trevor Rogers

3. Jesus Luzardo

4. Pablo Lopez

5. Edward Cabrera

 

And then they have Sixto Sanchez (if/when he returns), Eliaser Hernandez, Max Meyer, Zach Thompson, and Jake Eder either in the minors or currently injured. Embarrassment of riches.

 

There are actually a number of guys who could start on a number of MLB teams not even on that list as well as more really solid pitchers in the minors not on that list. To think of some of the pitchers they traded also.. Hence my Fantasy teams are packed full of Marlins pitchers;)

[Stangstag]

https://leagueofjustice.com/texts-show-ex-angels-employee-lured-alleged-drug-dealers-to-angel-stadium-with-promises-of-memorabilia-tickets/

 

Text Messages from Eric Kay to his drug dealer are here. Big oops

 

 

Jesus

[Spanky__99]

F U Oakland!

[Spanky__99]

Jesus

 

That POS should rot in jail.

[Stangstag]

Brutal blown save and loss by Oakland

[RobinThicc]

[Spanky__99]

 

Holy "Hooping Horseshoes" Batman, that Org's lucky AF.

[Spanky__99]

Brutal blown save and loss by Oakland

 

That's a good thing...

[Stangstag]

Holy "Hooping Horseshoes" Batman, that Org's lucky AF.

 

“No such thing as luck” yadayada

[Spanky__99]

“No such thing as luck” yadayada

 

lol...

[Ray]

Something I find mildly amusing:

 

Amed Rosario: 103 OPS+ on the season

Francisco Lindor: 93 OPS+ on the season

 

Doesn’t tell the whole story obviously. Lindor has been significantly better defensively and was heating up before he got injured, but I just find it funny that the Mets traded for Lindor and gave him a massive extension, when his surplus value compared to the guy he was traded for has been negligible at best.

[Ray]

And Lindor might be another “meh” hitting season away from having the worst contract in baseball. Defense and speed are the first thing to go when you age, so if he’s going to be a roughly league average bat making that much money in his early to late 30’s, good luck.

[Stangstag]

Something I find mildly amusing:

 

Amed Rosario: 103 OPS+ on the season

Francisco Lindor: 93 OPS+ on the season

 

Doesn’t tell the whole story obviously. Lindor has been significantly better defensively and was heating up before he got injured, but I just find it funny that the Mets traded for Lindor and gave him a massive extension, when his surplus value compared to the guy he was traded for has been negligible at best.

 

That contract is looking real bad. Obviously Lindor will be better than he has been, but im not sure he ever gets back to being more than a 115wRC+ type bat. Normally you don’t wanna pay guys like that 30 million a year for 10 years lol.

 

Steve Cohen needs to realize he knows f*** all about baseball and he needs to let the team execs make decisions

[connorp]

That contract is looking real bad. Obviously Lindor will be better than he has been, but im not sure he ever gets back to being more than a 115wRC+ type bat. Normally you don’t wanna pay guys like that 30 million a year for 10 years lol.

 

Steve Cohen needs to realize he knows f*** all about baseball and he needs to let the team execs make decisions

 

There were a lot of ppl here that were ok handing Lindor a mega contract. Maybe not as much as Mets gave him but giving up real assets for the privilege of giving something near $300. Can you imagine how bad the trolls would be? I would be amongst them:)

[connorp]

Good thing for Miggy someone in the BP caught his 500th Hr.

Honest question to ask yourself, what would you do it you caught it?

I wonder what the in-game offer would be? Not like it’s an overly historic ball worth millions.

In-game offer would clearly be about giving back to Miggy though.

I think I’d give it to Miggy that day idk. Have to be in the real scenario I guess

[Stangstag]

Good thing for Miggy someone in the BP caught his 500th Hr.

Honest question to ask yourself, what would you do it you caught it?

I wonder what the in-game offer would be? Not like it’s an overly historic ball worth millions.

In-game offer would clearly be about giving back to Miggy though.

I think I’d give it to Miggy that day idk. Have to be in the real scenario I guess

 

I was at the game the day before in the 100 lvl outfield seats and I was thinking about what I would do if I somehow caught his 500th.... i'd probably settle for meeting Miggy and getting a signed jersey from him.

[Laika]

Good thing for Miggy someone in the BP caught his 500th Hr.

Honest question to ask yourself, what would you do it you caught it?

I wonder what the in-game offer would be? Not like it’s an overly historic ball worth millions.

In-game offer would clearly be about giving back to Miggy though.

I think I’d give it to Miggy that day idk. Have to be in the real scenario I guess

 

I've thought about this before. I would definitely give it to the player if they were offering me anything worthwhile, like a bat or jersey signed by the player.

 

Harder decision if you have a truly historic ball though. Like an all time record homer.

[connorp]

I've thought about this before. I would definitely give it to the player if they were offering me anything worthwhile, like a bat or jersey signed by the player.

 

Harder decision if you have a truly historic ball though. Like an all time record homer.

 

Yeah I mean, just so it’s understood though. No doubt HOF, unlikely to get to 600. Talking a bit out my ass but I think you’d clear $100k-150k easy down the road in an auction (10 years after he’s in hall). So basically it’s your kids college education paid for

[Laika]

Yeah I mean, just so it’s understood though. No doubt HOF, unlikely to get to 600. Talking a bit out my ass but I think you’d clear $100k-150k easy down the road in an action. So basically it’s your kids college education paid for

 

You think that much? hmmmm.