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[Laika]

Okay, so let's say for a moment that during perfectly consensual rough sex, he'd killed her. That's still murder (or manslaughter) and he would be convicted easily.

 

Consensual rough sex shouldn't leave marks or lasting damage of any kind, if it does, you are doing it wrong, holy f***balls. It's about control, dominance and the illusion of danger, but it should always be 100% safe.

 

This is the reason that every single person you know who is into BDSM (and it's more than you think...) isn't walking around with bruises on their face constantly. If she does, in fact, have a skull fracture the fact that she requested rough sex doesn't matter, that's assault.

 

I'm not saying he's guilty, that's not for me to decide, but what has been released (from both sides) certainly looks bad.

 

http://www.thecourt.ca/consent-and-sexual-assault-causing-bodily-harm-r-v-zhao/

 

The above is probably a decent summary of the relevant high level law in Canada.

 

There are of course people who are into BDSM that leaves marks, bruises, and swelling. Of course there are. There are people that hang their bodies from meat hooks for fun, man.

[Brownie19]

Okay, so let's say for a moment that during perfectly consensual rough sex, he'd killed her. That's still murder (or manslaughter) and he would be convicted easily.

 

Consensual rough sex shouldn't leave marks or lasting damage of any kind, if it does, you are doing it wrong, holy f***balls. It's about control, dominance and the illusion of danger, but it should always be 100% safe.

 

This is the reason that every single person you know who is into BDSM (and it's more than you think...) isn't walking around with bruises on their face constantly. If she does, in fact, have a skull fracture the fact that she requested rough sex doesn't matter, that's assault.

 

I'm not saying he's guilty, that's not for me to decide, but what has been released (from both sides) certainly looks bad.

 

I think there are certainly cases where BDSM is intended to leave marks. The people who like to get their asses spanked definitely leave marks. I know because I watch Pornhub.

[connorp]

I think there are certainly cases where BDSM is intended to leave marks. The people who like to get their asses spanked definitely leave marks. I know because I watch Pornhub.

 

Yeah I mean there has to be some people that actually like getting whipped to where it leaves a mark. Everyone can’t be like “whip me but not enough to leave a mark”

[Krylian]

I think there are certainly cases where BDSM is intended to leave marks. The people who like to get their asses spanked definitely leave marks. I know because I watch Pornhub.

 

They also use lube in many of the Pornhub videos. That could've helped with the anal bleeding

[L54]

Okay, so let's say for a moment that during perfectly consensual rough sex, he'd killed her. That's still murder (or manslaughter) and he would be convicted easily.

 

Consensual rough sex shouldn't leave marks or lasting damage of any kind, if it does, you are doing it wrong, holy f***balls. It's about control, dominance and the illusion of danger, but it should always be 100% safe.

 

This is the reason that every single person you know who is into BDSM (and it's more than you think...) isn't walking around with bruises on their face constantly. If she does, in fact, have a skull fracture the fact that she requested rough sex doesn't matter, that's assault.

 

I'm not saying he's guilty, that's not for me to decide, but what has been released (from both sides) certainly looks bad.

 

Lmao what point are you trying to make here? That you’re a better BDSM partner than Trevor Bauer?

[Carlos Danger]

Why is it so not surprising when you hear about bauers allegations, he just seemed like the typical toxic male.

 

Are you the one behind the Gillette commercials? The reason, I buy only Harry’s now.

[connorp]

Are you the one behind the Gillette commercials? The reason, I buy only Harry’s now.

 

So you cancelled Gillette you’re saying? Lol

I’m not making fun of you as I to totally get it but the whole cancel thing has become pretty funny

[Scion]

Okay, so let's say for a moment that during perfectly consensual rough sex, he'd killed her. That's still murder (or manslaughter) and he would be convicted easily.

 

Consensual rough sex shouldn't leave marks or lasting damage of any kind, if it does, you are doing it wrong, holy f***balls. It's about control, dominance and the illusion of danger, but it should always be 100% safe.

 

This is the reason that every single person you know who is into BDSM (and it's more than you think...) isn't walking around with bruises on their face constantly. If she does, in fact, have a skull fracture the fact that she requested rough sex doesn't matter, that's assault.

 

I'm not saying he's guilty, that's not for me to decide, but what has been released (from both sides) certainly looks bad.

 

That is not necessarily true. Everyone has different pain thresholds and preferences. Also some people legitimately get off on being hurt.

[Scion]

Yes. The amount of risk he took on here is insane, even if there's no criminal liability. Engaging in sex this rough with a 21-year old from IG that you're just meeting for the first time is just asking for exactly this kind of clusterf***.

 

It is, and yet I'd be willing to bet if most single men were DM'ed by a hot instagram chick who was down that they would oblige.

[Scion]

This guy seems like a f***ing waste of skin.

 

Note that he presents no argument or justification for his opinion

 

I followed him just so that I could unfollow him and pretend like nothing ever happened.

[Jimcanuck]

Unlikely to have been Bauer's first BDSM rodeo. If no one else comes forward with nonconsensual acts by Bauer, the question of whether this was a setup for $$$ becomes louder.

 

In these things the truth is generally in the middle, but regardless of outcome this is a very very bad look for MLB and Bauer. There seems to be a perception DV and misogynistic behaviour is more prevalent in MLB compared to other professional leagues and as a business MLB needs to take action now. Bauer should immediately be placed on administrative leave, pending investigation.

[connorp]

Unlikely to have been Bauer's first BDSM rodeo. If no one else comes forward with nonconsensual acts by Bauer, the question of whether this was a setup for $$$ becomes louder.

 

In these things the truth is generally in the middle, but regardless of outcome this is a very very bad look for MLB and Bauer. There seems to be a perception DV and misogynistic behaviour is more prevalent in MLB compared to other professional leagues and as a business MLB needs to take action now. Bauer should immediately be placed on administrative leave, pending investigation.

 

I’d actually be surprised if LA let’s him start. I read another AP article and it’s general consensus LA is under no obligation to let him take the field. Union can only file a grievance saying that’s a form of punishment and really the team would come back with something like it’s a safety issue. In the meantime, he’s sitting. In any event, most (media wise) seem to think letting him take the field is more damaging to whatever little consequences a grievance could bring.

 

If he takes the field, I’ll go ahead and assume LA feels confident in their internal investigation up to this point. They don’t have all the facts but more than us for sure

[BTS]

Unlikely to have been Bauer's first BDSM rodeo. If no one else comes forward with nonconsensual acts by Bauer, the question of whether this was a setup for $$$ becomes louder.

 

In these things the truth is generally in the middle, but regardless of outcome this is a very very bad look for MLB and Bauer. There seems to be a perception DV and misogynistic behaviour is more prevalent in MLB compared to other professional leagues and as a business MLB needs to take action now. Bauer should immediately be placed on administrative leave, pending investigation.

 

Hasn’t MLB almost always acted immediately to place players on admin leave in these situations? Surprising, and maybe also telling of the status of the investigation, that they haven’t acted yet despite the huge amount of pressure.

[Jimcanuck]

Hasn’t MLB almost always acted immediately to place players on admin leave in these situations? Surprising, and maybe also telling of the status of the investigation, that they haven’t acted yet despite the huge amount of pressure.

 

Perhaps, or its simply a reflection of the fact Bauer is a pitcher and does not play again until Sunday. Let's see what transpires between now and Sunday.

[King]

Bauer placed on admin leave.

[BTS]

Luba released a statement last night:

 

[King]

I missed that Yermin Mercedes got optioned.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

Photos are completely consistent with what someone who wanted to be choked out and slapped hard would look like.

 

No foul.

 

He's clearly innocent and she's just a crazy person or a scorned hopeful lover.

 

I don't carry this opinion lightly. I can just smell ********

 

You need to get help if you truly feel this way. Just a disgusting attitude to have.

 

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked? Some things are just wrong no matter what. The fact that he gets off on inflicting serious pain on other people is disgusting, and you sticking up for him is sad. How are you not banned for this take?

 

Really disturbed by some of the posts I am reading here.

[Scion]

Reading this post and others in this thread you and others have and I am shocked. You need to get help if you truly feel this way. Just a disgusting attitude to have.

 

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked? Some things are just wrong no matter what. The fact that he gets off on inflicting serious pain on other people is disgusting, and you sticking up for him is sad. How are you not banned for this take?

 

Are you stupid or just dumb?

[King]

You need to get help if you truly feel this way. Just a disgusting attitude to have.

 

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked? Some things are just wrong no matter what. The fact that he gets off on inflicting serious pain on other people is disgusting, and you sticking up for him is sad. How are you not banned for this take?

 

Really disturbed by some of the posts I am reading here.

 

Sad, isn't it.

[Laika]

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked?

 

No. Of course not.

 

There is a line. Cases like this have been tried numerous times at our Supreme Court. They are interesting reads.

 

I believe in autonomy and freedom. If someone wants to be slapped around and choked out in bed, I don't think the other person should be held to the legal fire for the reasonably foreseeable results.

 

If someone wants their sexual partner to cut their arm off, then a line has been crossed and public policy should say that the person doing the cutting should be held to the legal fire i.e. tried for serious assault.

 

There is a line in the sand. Somewhere.

[wilko]

You need to get help if you truly feel this way. Just a disgusting attitude to have.

 

What if she asked him to kill her? Would that be OK since she asked? Some things are just wrong no matter what. The fact that he gets off on inflicting serious pain on other people is disgusting, and you sticking up for him is sad. How are you not banned for this take?

 

Really disturbed by some of the posts I am reading here.

 

People can get weird in the bedroom... Who are you to judge what happens behind closed doors?

[vaff]

My take when the Dodgers signed Bauer was that he would be their 3rd best pitcher. He’s been their 4th best pitcher. Never anticipated the rape allegations, though.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

But where is that line? Punching someone in the genitalia and in the face causing visible damage definitely crosses that line in my opinion.

 

If she's into getting punched in the face that's messed up, and doesn't make it OK for someone to do it to her.

[RobinThicc]

But where is that line? Punching someone in the genitalia and in the face causing visible damage definitely crosses that line in my opinion.

 

If she's into getting punched in the face that's messed up, and doesn't make it OK for someone to do it to her.

The line is where THEY set it.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

People can get weird in the bedroom... Who are you to judge what happens behind closed doors?

 

There's weird, and then there's assault. This wasn't just a weird fetish. There is something wrong with Trevor Bauer if he enjoys doing this.

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

The line is where THEY set it.

 

I assume by THEY you mean the 2 people engaging in the act? So I guess if she wanted him to choke her to death, that would be OK because THEY decided it was OK?

[Stottlemyres_Bloody_Chin]

I'm not going to respond anymore as I can see its not going to get anywhere. I'm just disturbed by some of the stuff I am reading here. Is this a blue jays message board or an incel forum?

[RobinThicc]

I assume by THEY you mean the 2 people engaging in the act? So I guess if she wanted him to choke her to death, that would be OK because THEY decided it was OK?

Stop being a f***ing idiot and using extremes to make your s***** point.

 

Obviously if someone is asking you to kill them, you dont do it. But if someone wants you to be rough with them, if you're comfortable with that, then you'd do it. Its up to them to decide whats too rough and whats not rough enough.

[Terminator]

Photos are completely consistent with what someone who wanted to be choked out and slapped hard would look like.

 

No foul.

 

He's clearly innocent and she's just a crazy person or a scorned hopeful lover.

 

I don't carry this opinion lightly. I can just smell ********

 

Yeah the photos are what they are. Bauer isn't denying that rough sex occurred and the photos are consistent with that. But it's a matter of if it was consensual or not and the texts exchanged between the two seem to corroborate his account of events.

 

He is an absolute dumbass for falling for this in the #MeToo era though. He'll likely avoid criminal charges (though an ambitious DA looking to make a name for themselves could change that) but he'll be dealing with some serious fallout from this. He's going to be hung in the court of public opinion which will force MLB to do something punitive. He needs support from the Dodgers org but I don't know if they'll have the stomach for it. Worst case scenario they could try to void his deal and he might have a hard time signing on with another team.