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[G-Snarls]

This is pretty hilarious starting at the 20 second mark:

 

[Brownie19]

Well, nobody has ever accused Donaldson of being classy.

 

I mean - hitters feel like they've been cheated over the past 3-4 years, but given all the sign stealing that was happening at the same time - perhaps they should all STFU.

[saskjayfan]

Are you assuming he's guilty? What's your point here?

 

Sounds like he gave her exactly what she wanted and now she's trying to get rich quick.

 

I don't care whether he's innocent or guilty. The fact is he's a moron. Engaging in this type of encounter with a casual fling is stupid. I hear all the time how people claim Bauer is such an intelligent guy. The fact that he's now just realizing he's part of a get rich quick scam if he is innocent. It doesn't take Inspector Clouseau to figure out this mystery.

[Brownie19]

Ohtani had a nice week.

 

Tuesday - HR

Wednesday - HR

Thursday - 6 IP 1 ER 5K W

Friday - 2 HRs

Saturday - HR

Sunday - HR

 

So he's on a f***ing tear - 2 of the most astounding weeks in baseball history.

 

June 15 - HR

June 16 - HR

June 17 - 6 IP 1 ER 5K W

June 18 - 2 HRs

June 19 - HR

June 20 - HR

June 21 - OFF

June 22 - 0/3 (wtf man?)

June 23 - 6 IP 1 ER 9 K

June 24 - OFF

June 25 - HR

June 26 - 1/3

June 27 - HR

June 28 - HR

June 29 - 2 HR

 

11 HRs in 15 days

12 IP, 2 ER, 14 K

[Laika]

So he's on a f***ing tear - 2 of the most astounding weeks in baseball history.

 

June 15 - HR

June 16 - HR

June 17 - 6 IP 1 ER 5K W

June 18 - 2 HRs

June 19 - HR

June 20 - HR

June 21 - OFF

June 22 - 0/3 (wtf man?)

June 23 - 6 IP 1 ER 9 K

June 24 - OFF

June 25 - HR

June 26 - 1/3

June 27 - HR

June 28 - HR

June 29 - 2 HR

 

11 HRs in 15 days

12 IP, 2 ER, 14 K

 

Better than Babe

 

This is my MVP. Sorry, Vlad.

 

They are tied for the MLB lead in fWAR now with 4.7 each

[Slade]

[Brownie19]

Better than Babe

 

This is my MVP. Sorry, Vlad.

 

They are tied for the MLB lead in fWAR now with 4.7 each

 

This may be a fascinating race to watch. Vlad chasing the triple crown, Ohtani doing something we've literally never seen before.

 

I'd hate to see Vlad get robbed of MVP, but this storyline is too good for baseball for it not to happen (assuming they both keep it up). It reminds me a bit of when Miggy one the triple crown but Trout was the superior player.

[Brownie19]

 

I listened to that like 12 times in a row. Incredible. Trout, Ohtani, Rendon - the Angels need to get in the playoffs regularly. Baseball fans deserve that.

[saskjayfan]

I listened to that like 12 times in a row. Incredible. Trout, Ohtani, Rendon - the Angels need to get in the playoffs regularly. Baseball fans deserve that.

 

The Angels aren't making the playoffs this year. They have 2 years of control left with Ohtani after this. They are a club that spends to the luxury tax, but have only been over once and it was just a few hundred K over. In Ohtani's free agent year they have a 32 year old Mike trout making 37, a 34 year old Rendon making 38.5(3 years to go on that contract) and Fletcher making 6 mil. That's 81 mil for 3 players. If they sign Ohtani for 40 they have 121 mil, plus arb players and they still have to find a way to build a pitching staff. Ohtani is being wasted on the Angels. They should trade him while they can and do a much needed rebuild around trout and their other young players. They will not trade him and gamble on the next 2 years, but I don't necessarily see them as the favorites to sign Ohtani when he's a free agent in 2.5 years.

[Laika]

This may be a fascinating race to watch. Vlad chasing the triple crown, Ohtani doing something we've literally never seen before.

 

I'd hate to see Vlad get robbed of MVP, but this storyline is too good for baseball for it not to happen (assuming they both keep it up). It reminds me a bit of when Miggy one the triple crown but Trout was the superior player.

 

If Ohtani stays healthy it's his, regardless of how to final WAR lines up between them. We've seen triple crown winners before and we've seen hitters dominate like Vlad. Nobody alive has ever seen someone do what Ohtani is doing.

 

Ohtani has a chance to do this:

 

.270/.360

50+ HR

100+ RBI

100+ R

20+ SB

7+ fWAR on offense

 

25+ GS

130+ IP

ERA under 3.00

FIP under 3.50

K% over 30%

3+ fWAR as a SP

[connorp]

If Ohtani stays healthy it's his, regardless of how to final WAR lines up between them. We've seen triple crown winners before and we've seen hitters dominate like Vlad. Nobody alive has ever seen someone do what Ohtani is doing.

 

Ohtani has a chance to do this:

 

.270/.360

50+ HR

100+ RBI

100+ R

20+ SB

7+ fWAR on offense

 

25+ GS

130+ IP

ERA under 3.00

FIP under 3.50

K% over 30%

3+ fWAR as a SP

 

Still enough of the old crusty people where Triple Crown is historic feat. If Jays go to the playoffs and Angels don’t, assuming Vlad wins Triple Crown-I think he gets it. Or it’s really tight

[G-Snarls]

If Ohtani stays healthy it's his, regardless of how to final WAR lines up between them. We've seen triple crown winners before and we've seen hitters dominate like Vlad. Nobody alive has ever seen someone do what Ohtani is doing.

 

Ohtani has a chance to do this:

 

.270/.360

50+ HR

100+ RBI

100+ R

20+ SB

7+ fWAR on offense

 

25+ GS

130+ IP

ERA under 3.00

FIP under 3.50

K% over 30%

3+ fWAR as a SP

 

 

Yeah

 

If Ohtani keeps up anything CLOSE to this he'll win it even the Angels finish in last place

 

And that's fine. He's amazing.

[connorp]

I don't care whether he's innocent or guilty. The fact is he's a moron. Engaging in this type of encounter with a casual fling is stupid. I hear all the time how people claim Bauer is such an intelligent guy. The fact that he's now just realizing he's part of a get rich quick scam if he is innocent. It doesn't take Inspector Clouseau to figure out this mystery.

 

Sometimes intelligent guys are guilty of thinking with their wiener

[G-Snarls]

The Angels aren't making the playoffs this year. They have 2 years of control left with Ohtani after this. They are a club that spends to the luxury tax, but have only been over once and it was just a few hundred K over. In Ohtani's free agent year they have a 32 year old Mike trout making 37, a 34 year old Rendon making 38.5(3 years to go on that contract) and Fletcher making 6 mil. That's 81 mil for 3 players. If they sign Ohtani for 40 they have 121 mil, plus arb players and they still have to find a way to build a pitching staff. Ohtani is being wasted on the Angels. They should trade him while they can and do a much needed rebuild around trout and their other young players. They will not trade him and gamble on the next 2 years, but I don't necessarily see them as the favorites to sign Ohtani when he's a free agent in 2.5 years.

 

Exactly

 

Which they couldn't do even when they had some money to play with

 

They should have singed any among Tanaka, Ryu, Bauer, Kluber, Gausman etc over the last few years

 

Cause they didn't have a good enough farm to trade for Darvish, Snell, Taillon, Musgrove etc

[AMS528]

I know everything he's doing is absurd, but it becomes laughable when you also consider his speed as well. The fact that he's going to do all the hitting and pitching, but that he could steal over 20 bases as well is beyond comprehension. He's one of the ten fastest guys in the game as well.

 

You literally would not be able to recreate his skills in MLB the Show. Defies belief.

[Laika]

I know everything he's doing is absurd, but it becomes laughable when you also consider his speed as well. The fact that he's going to do all the hitting and pitching, but that he could steal over 20 bases as well is beyond comprehension. He's one of the ten fastest guys in the game as well.

 

You literally would not be able to recreate his skills in MLB the Show. Defies belief.

 

Yeah there are "video game numbers" and then there is "we would have to recode the f***ing video game to even allow you to create a player than can do this numbers".

[Spanky__99]

Giolito calls Donaldson move 'classless' - White Sox pitcher angered by Twins slugger's 'sticky' reference after HR

 

https://www.mlb.com/news/lucas-giolito-upset-with-josh-donaldson

 

...the White Sox right-hander was not thrilled with Twins third baseman Josh Donaldson, who connected for a two-run homer on Giolito’s fifth pitch of the game. As Donaldson crossed home plate, he rubbed his hands together and said, “Hey, it’s not sticky anymore! It’s not sticky anymore!” as picked up by the television microphone on the Twins' broadcast and in reference to Major League Baseball’s crackdown on pitchers no longer using sticky substances.

 

“He's a [expletive] pest. That's kind of a classless move,” Giolito said during his postgame Zoom.

 

I was watching this last night on MLBN, was pretty funny, to be honest.

[G-Snarls]

I was watching this last night on MLBN, was pretty funny, to be honest.

 

 

 

I love Josh Donaldson

[wilko]

 

That's one of the best sounds I ever heard for a HR.

[glory]

Yeah if Ohtani keeps this up, then he'll win MVP easily regardless of how WAR shakes out, and honestly, I'd be fine with that. The modern day Babe Ruth winning the MVP is perfectly reasonable.

 

Going to be interesting to see what happens with two way players in the future. Ohtani's success might open the flood gates in terms of prospects wanting to become two way players, if it hasn't already.

[Brownie19]

Yeah if Ohtani keeps this up, then he'll win MVP easily regardless of how WAR shakes out, and honestly, I'd be fine with that. The modern day Babe Ruth winning the MVP is perfectly reasonable.

 

Going to be interesting to see what happens with two way players in the future. Ohtani's success might open the flood gates in terms of prospects wanting to become two way players, if it hasn't already.

 

I mean - I think Brandan McKay proved that it's really f***ing hard. What Ohtani is doing is once in a lifetime stuff.

[glory]

I mean - I think Brandan McKay proved that it's really f***ing hard. What Ohtani is doing is once in a lifetime stuff.

 

Without question the majority of players who try it will fail and end up picking one or the other. Ohtani is just a once in a century talent, literally.

[intentional wok]

Cubs went up 7-0 in the 1st and now the go-ahead run is at the plate for the Brewers in the 2nd.

[Deadpool]

Cubs went up 7-0 in the 1st and now the go-ahead run is at the plate for the Brewers in the 2nd.

 

So, pitchers' duel?

[Spanky__99]

Cubs went up 7-0 in the 1st and now the go-ahead run is at the plate for the Brewers in the 2nd.

 

1st inning was just short of an hour, same goes for the second, crazy game. Arrieta s*** the bed...

[Jimcanuck]

Player A: 36R, 9 HR, 37 RBI, 3 SB, .331 OBP, .412 SLG

Player B: 42R, 9 HR, 34 RBI, 3 SB, .394 OBP, .437 SLG

 

Pretty comparable, other than the OBP. Who are they?

[Sorrow]

Juan Soto is player B and player A is maybe Trevor Story?

[BTS]

Player A: 36R, 9 HR, 37 RBI, 3 SB, .331 OBP, .412 SLG

Player B: 42R, 9 HR, 34 RBI, 3 SB, .394 OBP, .437 SLG

 

Pretty comparable, other than the OBP. Who are they?

 

Is one Manny Margot

[Laika]

I don't think player A exists unless Jim made a typo or that is from a different season

[King]

How is that comparable? There is a big difference between a .400 OBP and a .330 OBP.