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[G-Snarls]

Rays Send Tyler Glasnow For MRI Due To Elbow Issue

 

https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/06/14/rays-tyler-glasnow-leaves-game-with-elbow-inflammation/

 

The Rays are sending Tyler Glasnow for an MRI on his elbow after the right-hander left last night’s start after four innings, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times was among those to report. The team announced Glasnow’s issue as elbow inflammation, with the pitcher telling reporters he felt “a little tug” and “tightness” in the area.

 

Initial word from the team was inflammation, but Glasnow said that he felt “a little tug” and “tightness” in his elbow, first on a 98.2-mph fastball, then during three subsequent pitches to finish the inning.

 

“I think I got it relatively early,” Glasnow said. “I just was like, I don’t want to go back out and like chance it. I felt it, like, the last four (pitches). The (velocity) and everything was still there. But it just felt not right.”

[Brownie19]

Penalty is fine as long as it is actively enforced during games. Having a pitcher removed from the game is a huge penalty

 

I agree with this - as long as umpires are checking for it at the start of every inning. It should be a pretty simple check of the hat, glove, arms and neck. Won't interrupt the game.

 

What I don't want to see now is managers having to go tell the umpire that they think the pitcher is using a foreign substance and have them inspect it mid-inning. That said, if the umpire sees a trend (of going to his forearm or whatever) then they should stop the game and check.

[Virgil_Hiltz]

Maybe the suspensions should be tied into the number of times a certain teams pitchers gets caught?? Make it peer pressure from the team mates not to cheat.

IE: one time a team gets caught....10 games....2nd time a team gets caught...20 games....so on and so on.

 

Like almost anything suspension worthy it always comes down to the CBA!

[Daniel Labude]

 

So loss of a roster spot during the suspension

[Spanky__99]

 

So loss of a roster spot during the suspension

 

Damn... G-snarls nailed that on the head, big pressure on the orgs to stop it also.

[G-Snarls]

Damn... G-snarls nailed that on the head, big pressure on the orgs to stop it also.

 

Wait what

 

They lose the roster spot?!

[G-Snarls]

Holy s***

 

That's rough when you're playing every day

[Spanky__99]

Wait what

 

They lose the roster spot?!

 

Yup, for the duration of the suspension. That's a big detriment to the entire club.

[G-Snarls]

Can't wait to face the Yankees again

 

Especially Cole on Wednesday...

[Abomination]

Maybe the suspensions should be tied into the number of times a certain teams pitchers gets caught?? Make it peer pressure from the team mates not to cheat.

IE: one time a team gets caught....10 games....2nd time a team gets caught...20 games....so on and so on.

 

Like almost anything suspension worthy it always comes down to the CBA!

 

I think the CBA puts limits on how long the league can suspend someone for and how much they can fine them for outside of pre-agreed upon areas. I'm not positive though.

[RustyTrombone]

So looks like Glasnow is out for a while now. Partial tear of his UCL

[Spanky__99]

So looks like Glasnow is out for a while now. Partial tear of his UCL

 

Ouch, about 18 months, TJS incoming... sad.

Edited June 15, 2021 by Spanky99

[Spanky__99]

Highlights of the enhanced enforcement include:

 

• Umpires have been instructed to perform checks periodically throughout the game of all starting and relief pitchers on both teams, regardless of whether they suspect a violation of the rules.

 

• Starting pitchers will have more than one mandatory check per game, and each relief pitcher must be checked either at the conclusion of the inning in which he entered the game or when he is removed from the game, whichever occurs first. Inspections will generally be conducted between innings or after pitching changes. Hats, gloves, and fingertips of the pitcher will be checked.

 

• Umpires may also perform a check at any time during the game when they notice the baseball has an unusually sticky feel to it, or when the umpire observes a pitcher going to his glove, hat, belt, or any other part of his uniform or body to retrieve or apply what may be a foreign substance.

 

• A player who possesses or applies foreign substances will be immediately ejected from the game and suspended. The umpiring crew shall be the sole judge as to whether the rules have been violated. The use of foreign substances is not subject to challenge using the replay review system.

 

• Although the foreign substance prohibitions do not apply exclusively to pitchers, the pitcher ultimately will be responsible for any ball that is delivered with a foreign substance on it. If a player other than the pitcher is found to have applied a foreign substance to the baseball (e.g., the catcher applies a foreign substance to the baseball before throwing it back to the pitcher), both the position player and pitcher will be ejected and automatically suspended.

 

• Catchers will also be subject to routine inspections. Umpires will also inspect a position player if they observe conduct consistent with the use of a foreign substance by the pitcher. Position players will not be ejected for having a foreign substance on their glove or uniform unless the umpire determines that the player was applying the substance to the ball in order to aid the pitcher.

 

• A player who refuses to cooperate with an inspection conducted by the umpire will be presumed to have violated the rules, resulting in an ejection from the game and a suspension.

 

• Rosin bags on the mound may be used in accordance with the rules. All substances except for rosin are prohibited per the Playing Rules that clearly state players cannot “apply a foreign substance of any kind to the ball” and may not “have on his person, or in his possession, any foreign substance.” Players may not intentionally combine rosin with other substances (e.g., sunscreen) to create additional tackiness or they risk ejection and suspension.

 

• Club personnel who help players to use foreign substances, handle foreign substances, mask player use of foreign substances, interfere with collections of baseballs, or otherwise fail to report such violations of the rules, will be subject to fines and/or suspension by the commissioner.

 

• Any club employee who encourages a player to use foreign substances, or otherwise trains a player how to utilize a foreign substance in violation of the rules, will be subject to severe discipline by the commissioner up to and including placement on the Ineligible List.

 

• Clubs and club personnel are subject to sanctions for failing to adequately educate and manage or police their staff and players to ensure compliance with the rules. The Department of Investigations will investigate Clubs whose players repeatedly violate the rules to determine the extent to which Club personnel were aware of or otherwise condoned the practice.

 

• Clubs may not replace on the roster a player who is suspended for any on-field violation.

 

• MLB will closely monitor the effect of this policy on competition, and on player health, and may make future modifications to the enhanced enforcement guidance as appropriate.

[Spanky__99]

Can't wait to face the Yankees again

 

Especially Cole on Wednesday...

 

Yes, I picked up Chicken Strip for this game, the Yankees suxxxxxxx!!!

[BTS]

Shame about Glasnow. He was having CY caliber seasons in 2019 and 2021 when he went down. Feels like his arm isn't going to let him put a full healthy season together.

[P2F]

Shame about Glasnow. He was having CY caliber seasons in 2019 and 2021 when he went down. Feels like his arm isn't going to let him put a full healthy season together.

 

Well, I guess this means we both officially lose our Clevinger for Glasnow+ swap in DDL from a while back.

[Brownie19]

Shame about Glasnow. He was having CY caliber seasons in 2019 and 2021 when he went down. Feels like his arm isn't going to let him put a full healthy season together.

 

Agreed - it's really unfortunate. The guy has one of the best arms and stuff I've ever seen. I love watching him pitch.

[BTS]

Well, I guess this means we both officially lose our Clevinger for Glasnow+ swap in DDL from a while back.

 

I think you've already won that regardless of what Glasnow does going forward.

[BTS]

Agreed - it's really unfortunate. The guy has one of the best arms and stuff I've ever seen. I love watching him pitch.

 

I remember watching him as a Pirate and he had no idea where any of his pitches were going. He's been lights out ever since he figured out how to locate that fastball. He can basically throw 97-98 at the knees for strike 1 with his eyes closed at this point, and it sets up everything else.

[Dr. Dinger]

Clubs may not replace on the roster a player who is suspended for any on-field violation.

 

 

That's pretty important, actually.

[Brownie19]

I remember watching him as a Pirate and he had no idea where any of his pitches were going. He's been lights out ever since he figured out how to locate that fastball. He can basically throw 97-98 at the knees for strike 1 with his eyes closed at this point, and it sets up everything else.

 

Exactly - and with his extension, that 97 looks/feels like 103 at the knees. The guy is a freak of nature.

[Spanky__99]

Clubs may not replace on the roster a player who is suspended for any on-field violation.

 

 

That's pretty important, actually.

 

It's huge.

[TwistedLogic]

Shame about Glasnow. He was having CY caliber seasons in 2019 and 2021 when he went down. Feels like his arm isn't going to let him put a full healthy season together.

 

Shame also that the Blue Jays won't get to play him again after destroying him every other time they've seen him so far.

[P2F]

I think you've already won that regardless of what Glasnow does going forward.

 

As much as I'd love to put this feather in my cap, I vehemently disagree. The trade was made May 13th, 2018. I'm not sure if you held on to Clevinger, but here's the output from each guy since:

 

Clevinger

314.1 IP

26 W

372 K

3.57 K/BB

2.95 ERA

8 fWAR

 

Glasnow

299 IP

17 W

400 K

3.85 K/BB

3.10 ERA

6.6 fWAR

 

Franklin Perez turned into literally nothing.

[Dr. Dinger]

At least your dynasty ace didn’t light the league on fire, blow out his elbow, have TJS, light the league on fire again, and then die in a boating accident.

 

I SEEN SOME s***.

[BTS]

As much as I'd love to put this feather in my cap, I vehemently disagree. The trade was made May 13th, 2018. I'm not sure if you held on to Clevinger, but here's the output from each guy since:

 

Clevinger

314.1 IP

26 W

372 K

3.57 K/BB

2.95 ERA

8 fWAR

 

Glasnow

299 IP

17 W

400 K

3.85 K/BB

3.10 ERA

6.6 fWAR

 

Franklin Perez turned into literally nothing.

 

Interesting that they've been pretty close to identically valuable. I kept Clev until his arm exploded then flipped him (and Alex Canario) to Spanky for Logan Gilbert and Yarbrough.

[P2F]

At least your dynasty ace didn’t light the league on fire, blow out his elbow, have TJS, light the league on fire again, and then die in a boating accident.

 

I SEEN SOME s***.

 

Fair point, and one I can sympathize with. While none of these lads were as good as Fernandez, I've owned three players that have literally died: Oscar Taveras in BBDL and Yordano Ventura and Tyler Skaggs in LoD. I do wonder what Taveras could've been, though. His BB/K ratio and SwStr% make me think he could've been a star, assuming he started putting the ball in the air a little more.

[P2F]

Interesting that they've been pretty close to identically valuable. I kept Clev until his arm exploded then flipped him (and Alex Canario) to Spanky for Logan Gilbert and Yarbrough.

 

That trade is looking good for you right now.

[Jimcanuck]

Is today Super 2 threshold day?

[Spanky__99]

That trade is looking good for you right now.

 

It hurts me to say, you're right. You sold me on Canario then I delved into him some more, and got hooked, lol.