Around Baseball 2021

[Jimcanuck]

Sign EE to a minor league deal, injury depth

[P2F]

Google Trevor Bauer Mickey Callaway

 

Google Mickey Callaway. This may not be a hurdle any longer.

 

Edit: Or just read the post directly above this one. Thanks, barrel129.

[Jays24]

Sign EE to a minor league deal, injury depth

 

If the NL gets the DH, i think there's a starting spot for him somewhere. His 2019 numbers were pretty damn good. Think we can light most 2020 numbers on fire.

[Jimcanuck]

If the NL gets the DH spot, i think there's a starting spot for him somewhere. His 2019 numbers were pretty damn good. Think we can light most 2020 numbers on fire.

 

Maybe... my post was tongue in cheek

[Jays24]

 

Not condoning this at all but I think it's come to the point where Men need to stop hoping for one night flings. It will just get you in trouble lol.

[Deadpool]

Google Mickey Callaway. This may not be a hurdle any longer.

 

Edit: Or just read the post directly above this one. Thanks, barrel129.

 

Yeah, the timing of this is like "GET HIM OUT SO BAUER WILL COME PLAY!"

[G-Snarls]

Yeah, the timing of this is like "GET HIM OUT SO BAUER WILL COME PLAY!"

 

It honestly feels like that

 

Wow

[G-Snarls]

Wish there was a spot for him here but Tellez seems to have his role already and also provides us a left handed bat.

 

BTW... it's crazy that Edwin can reach 500 HRs considering the wasted years to begin his career. I don't see it happening in 2 years at all though.

 

No

 

He won't get enough playing time

 

Pujols got to rack them up because Angels

[Stangstag]

Yeah, the timing of this is like "GET HIM OUT SO BAUER WILL COME PLAY!"

 

The timing seems too convenient lol

[G-Snarls]

[jerb]

 

Bob Nightengale

@BNightengale

 

The #MLBPA formally rejects MLB's proposal to start the season a month late, and spring training will begin Feb. 17.

[Jays24]

 

Bob Nightengale

@BNightengale

 

The #MLBPA formally rejects MLB's proposal to start the season a month late, and spring training will begin Feb. 17.

 

So wait... does that mean there are no expanded playoffs this year?

[glory]

So wait... does that mean there are no expanded playoffs this year?

 

Yes, it means the normal rules apply (10 team playoffs, DH in the NL). Not sure about the extra inning rule, they might end up doing that anyway (they should). The players had incentive to agree to expanded playoffs in 2020 since it was a 60 game season and their salaries were prorated, so the expanded playoffs made sense financially for everyone involved, but Manfred can't unilaterally postpone the season like last year, so the players have the leverage.

 

I've said before that I like the expanded playoffs, but I think I am changing my mind on that, especially after this winter when damn near 98% of owners sat on their asses and did nothing. Players are absolutely right; if you put more teams in, owners (who have historically found every way possible to depress player salaries) will have less incentive to spend money. It should help the sport if more high profile players are getting national spotlight during the playoffs, so that's one benefit of expanded play, but that's really it.

 

With that said, keep the extra inning rule and put the DH in the NL.

[Grant77]

Yes, it means the normal rules apply (10 team playoffs, DH in the NL). Not sure about the extra inning rule, they might end up doing that anyway (they should). The players had incentive to agree to expanded playoffs in 2020 since it was a 60 game season and their salaries were prorated, so the expanded playoffs made sense financially for everyone involved, but Manfred can't unilaterally postpone the season like last year, so the players have the leverage.

 

I've said before that I like the expanded playoffs, but I think I am changing my mind on that, especially after this winter when damn near 98% of owners sat on their asses and did nothing. Players are absolutely right; if you put more teams in, owners (who have historically found every way possible to depress player salaries) will have less incentive to spend money. It should help the sport if more high profile players are getting national spotlight during the playoffs, so that's one benefit of expanded play, but that's really it.

 

With that said, keep the extra inning rule and put the DH in the NL.

 

I don't care how many games the season is, how many teams use the DH, or how many teams make the playoffs as long as they scrap the extra innings gimmick permanently. It is hands down the stupidest gimmick I have ever seen in any sport. It disgusts me when the runner trots out to second, I can't even watch.

[Jays24]

Yes, it means the normal rules apply (10 team playoffs, DH in the NL). Not sure about the extra inning rule, they might end up doing that anyway (they should). The players had incentive to agree to expanded playoffs in 2020 since it was a 60 game season and their salaries were prorated, so the expanded playoffs made sense financially for everyone involved, but Manfred can't unilaterally postpone the season like last year, so the players have the leverage.

 

I've said before that I like the expanded playoffs, but I think I am changing my mind on that, especially after this winter when damn near 98% of owners sat on their asses and did nothing. Players are absolutely right; if you put more teams in, owners (who have historically found every way possible to depress player salaries) will have less incentive to spend money. It should help the sport if more high profile players are getting national spotlight during the playoffs, so that's one benefit of expanded play, but that's really it.

 

With that said, keep the extra inning rule and put the DH in the NL.

 

It's not just about the players getting more spotlight in the playoffs, the fans in most markets have a reason to give a s*** for longer parts of the season. Expanded playoffs let's 80% of teams and fans think they have a chance.

 

Usually, 50% of fans know they have 0 chance at the playoffs with like a 100 games left. If you want the casuals then you need to give them a reason to stay tuned...

Edited February 2, 2021 by Jays24

[connorp]

It's not just about the players getting more spotlight in the playoffs, the fans is most markets have a reason to give a s*** for longer parts of the season. Expanded playoffs let's 80% of teams and fans think they have a chance. 50% of fans usually know they have 0 chance the playoffs with like a 100 games left. If you want the casuals then you need to give them a reason to stay tuned...

 

Yep. And then that casual interest drives spending. Outside of the known douchebag teams, most teams are willing to invest when there’s ROI...like Tor

[Abomination]

I've said before that I like the expanded playoffs, but I think I am changing my mind on that, especially after this winter when damn near 98% of owners sat on their asses and did nothing. Players are absolutely right; if you put more teams in, owners (who have historically found every way possible to depress player salaries) will have less incentive to spend money. It should help the sport if more high profile players are getting national spotlight during the playoffs, so that's one benefit of expanded play, but that's really it.

 

The owners didn't sit on their asses this winter because of expanded playoffs last year. I highly doubt the MLBPA actually believes what they're spewing, they just want to keep every shred of leverage they have going into the negotiations next winter. I kinda wish the MLB and MLBPA would just shut down the game this year, work it out, and come back next year with a long-term agreement so we don't have to worry about this s*** for another 10 years. This year is going to be a mess anyway.

[saskjayfan]

I don't care how many games the season is, how many teams use the DH, or how many teams make the playoffs as long as they scrap the extra innings gimmick permanently. It is hands down the stupidest gimmick I have ever seen in any sport. It disgusts me when the runner trots out to second, I can't even watch.

 

See, everyone has their own opinion. Trotting out a runner to 2nd base seems ridiculous to you. I just see it as something that both teams are playing by the same rules, it adds some strategy and shortens the games saving pitchers arms. Although, I wouldn't want it for the playoffs I absolutely love it for the regular season.

 

As it stands, we have no DH in the national league, no expanded playoffs and extra innings will be revert back to no runner at 2nd. The people afraid of change will be very happy!

[Spanky__99]

What MLB proposal does and doesn't mean for 2021 season...

 

https://www.sportsnet.ca/mlb/article/mlb-proposal-doesnt-mean-2021-season/

[Spanky__99]

The owners didn't sit on their asses this winter because of expanded playoffs last year. I highly doubt the MLBPA actually believes what they're spewing, they just want to keep every shred of leverage they have going into the negotiations next winter. I kinda wish the MLB and MLBPA would just shut down the game this year, work it out, and come back next year with a long-term agreement so we don't have to worry about this s*** for another 10 years. This year is going to be a mess anyway.

 

Why shut baseball down prematurely? These guys in suits, they should be working on a new deal and get it worked out throughout the season and next winter, regardless of when they play. You a sadist bro, f*** that?!

[jerb]

 

Jon Morosi

@jonmorosi

 

Confirming: @MLB will have 26-man rosters in 2021, except for doubleheaders, when the limit expands to 27. @MLBNetwork

[saskjayfan]

Why shut baseball down prematurely? These guys in suits, they should be working on a new deal and get it worked out throughout the season and next winter, regardless of when they play. You a sadist bro, f*** that?!

 

A common sense approach. Let's get a deal done a year in advance to help address issues that will add additional revenues to the industry which benefits both sides for 2021 and beyond. Instead, lets not address depressed revenues in 2021 and see owners lose money for a 2nd straight year. I wonder if that causes a bigger fight for 2022. The 2 trains are headed towards each other and the outcome is inevitable. Pride and greed is destroying both sides.

[glory]

It's not just about the players getting more spotlight in the playoffs, the fans in most markets have a reason to give a s*** for longer parts of the season. Expanded playoffs let's 80% of teams and fans think they have a chance.

 

Usually, 50% of fans know they have 0 chance at the playoffs with like a 100 games left. If you want the casuals then you need to give them a reason to stay tuned...

 

I don't necessarily disagree with that, it's part of the reason I was in favor of expanded playoffs, but it really comes down to how teams value those extra post season spots. If owners realize that they could be around .500 and contend for one of those spots, and it drives down their motivation to spend (because they don't have to), then it may not have the impact on fan engagement that it should have in theory. Maybe fans will be engaged to watch a 78-82 win team contend for a WC spot the first time, but if it happens consistently, then eventually it's going to be old hat and diminishing returns. I guess we will need to see a few years of sample size to determine whether expanded playoffs 1) increases regular season attendance due to more teams in contention, 2) increases regular season TV numbers, 3) gives more owners an incentive to try to improve their teams.

[glory]

The owners didn't sit on their asses this winter because of expanded playoffs last year. I highly doubt the MLBPA actually believes what they're spewing, they just want to keep every shred of leverage they have going into the negotiations next winter. I kinda wish the MLB and MLBPA would just shut down the game this year, work it out, and come back next year with a long-term agreement so we don't have to worry about this s*** for another 10 years. This year is going to be a mess anyway.

 

The MLBPA was going to reject any offer MLB gave them, but that doesn't mean they don't believe what they are spewing. Expanded playoffs disproportionately helps owners over players. If they feel owners would lose motivation to spend if it became a lot easier to contend for a playoff spot, then they may not be wrong.

 

Just to clarify, I personally don't care about either side. Both are unlikable and bad for the sport.

[Spanky__99]

A common sense approach. Let's get a deal done a year in advance to help address issues that will add additional revenues to the industry which benefits both sides for 2021 and beyond. Instead, lets not address depressed revenues in 2021 and see owners lose money for a 2nd straight year. I wonder if that causes a bigger fight for 2022. The 2 trains are headed towards each other and the outcome is inevitable. Pride and greed is destroying both sides.

 

Right, but it still makes zero sense to kibosh the upcoming baseball season.

[Carlos Danger]

Shutting down another year of baseball for a labor dispute would be league suicide especially coming off a 60 game season. It would be the 94 season X 50 as far as negative fan blowback.... Not only no, but HELL NO!

[G-Snarls]

Shutting down another year of baseball for a labor dispute would be league suicide especially coming off a 60 game season. It would be the 94 season X 50 as far as negative fan blowback.... Not only no, but HELL NO!

 

OMG yeah and they all know that

[Spanky__99]

Maybe the Reds are going to hang on to their SP...

 

[jerb]

 

Dennis Lin

@dennistlin

 

The Padres have added president of baseball operations to A.J. Preller's title and extended his contract through 2026. Erik Greupner, also newly extended through 2026, is now CEO. Preller's previous contract ran through 2022.

[Jays24]

 

Dennis Lin

@dennistlin

 

The Padres have added president of baseball operations to A.J. Preller's title and extended his contract through 2026. Erik Greupner, also newly extended through 2026, is now CEO. Preller's previous contract ran through 2022.

 

This is what people wanted to happen for AA after 2015 lol.