connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Good. f*** him. I don’t know. I’d probably think less of him he merrily played out his contract sucking ass ala Chris Davis He definitely could’ve done that. He certainly wasn’t going to the HOF already Someone like Miggy or Pujols would have more to lose
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 When Peyton basically got popped for HGH, which might be what Cano got popped for, it was swept under the rug
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan BREAKING: New York Mets second baseman Robinson Cano has tested positive for a performance-enhancing drug and will be suspended for the entire 2021 season, sources familiar with the situation tell ESPN. He will forfeit a $24 million salary. News story will be up soon at ESPN. lol... what a dumbass. Guess he's retiring... '
connorp Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 lol... what a dumbass. Guess he's retiring... ' He’s got like 2/50 after next year, right?
BTS Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 He’s got like 2/50 after next year, right? 2/48 I can't see him walking away willingly after taking a 24M haircut this season.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Damn... you're already getting the guaranteed money. Now you have to sit out and lose all your money. Sucks lol
glory Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Cano has 2/48 left on his contract after this season. Since he's losing all of the $24m in 2021, I can't see him retiring and missing out on the $48m he has left. He's clearly lost his HOF chances, though. If he didn't lose it after the first suspension, then he has definitely lost it now.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 He’s got like 2/50 after next year, right? Yeah, you're right, what an albatross of a contract.
z3r0s Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 I can't imagine making a decision that cost me $24M
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 We need the homie Ang, to give us the lowdown going on in his city.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 I'd say Cohen probably made some friends with those in charge of running the tests but looking at Cano's numbers they're actually not that bad this past year. He might have been able to play up to that contract with maybe 3+ WAR. Then again if it was roid-aided... This means the Mets just became that much more active on the FA market. A $24 million windfall for a guy who was already likely to spend.
Dick_Pole Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 I can't imagine making a decision that cost me $24M Ignoring my posts in the trader's thread.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 Yeah, you're right, what an albatross of a contract. The contract worked wonderfully for the Mariners. He gave them 20.7 WAR for 5/120 (roughly $6M per win) and then netted them a top 10 prospect +. Enviable position for any team to be able to get elite production for the first half of an ugly contract before it becomes an albatross and then not have to pay a single dime of that back end, let alone get a top prospect for the privilege of not doing so.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 The contract worked wonderfully for the Mariners. He gave them 20.7 WAR for 5/120 (roughly $6M per win) and then netted them a top 10 prospect +. Enviable position for any team to be able to get elite production for the first half of an ugly contract before it becomes an albatross and then not have to pay a single dime of that back end, let alone get a top prospect for the privilege of not doing so. Yes, I was leaning heavily in that comment towards the Mets, lol. Welp... lol
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 At least Nelson Cruz isn't cheating though, right?
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 At least Nelson Cruz isn't cheating though, right? No man, he's Frank The Tank!!! lol, who knows, we can do this in every decade back to the 50's/60's. Damn, he's been incredible with the bat since '13 man, crazy.
Jays24 Old-Timey Member Posted November 18, 2020 Posted November 18, 2020 The s***** part about this is that the Mets probably have an extra 24 million to spend on free agents. Like we needed that...
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 The s***** part about this is that the Mets probably have an extra 24 million to spend on free agents. Like we needed that... They were to outbid teams on top tier guys, not much changes for their pen need. Right.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 The s***** part about this is that the Mets probably have an extra 24 million to spend on free agents. Like we needed that... Or hang on to to pay for a 'roidless borderline unplayable Cano the last two years.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 Yes, I was leaning heavily in that comment towards the Mets, lol. Welp... lol Yeah of course lol, I was just pointing that out. Rare occurrence for a team where they're able to come out ahead on a mega deal contract.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 At least Nelson Cruz isn't cheating though, right? I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of the league is on some kind of PEDs. Most are probably just getting away with it.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 Yeah of course lol, I was just pointing that out. Rare occurrence for a team where they're able to come out ahead on a mega deal contract. Yes, that swayed perfectly for a disaster, same as Pujols and Wells to a degree. lol
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 I'd be willing to bet a significant percentage of the league is on some kind of PEDs. Most are probably just getting away with it. It's not that easy to get away with anymore. That's why people are getting caught. This is the 2nd time for Cano. I would bet the vast majority of the league is not using.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 It's not that easy to get away with anymore. That's why people are getting caught. This is the 2nd time for Cano. I would bet the vast majority of the league is not using. Ah well. MLB got weirdos like us that love the sport.
Orgfiller Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 It's not that easy to get away with anymore. That's why people are getting caught. This is the 2nd time for Cano. I would bet the vast majority of the league is not using. I disagree but I don't have sources to back up my claim so I'm not going to argue on this. I feel like if this is the second time for Cano he was probably always using and has just happened to be caught twice, less so that he was dumb and took PEDs twice and they popped him both times.
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 I disagree but I don't have sources to back up my claim so I'm not going to argue on this. I feel like if this is the second time for Cano he was probably always using and has just happened to be caught twice, less so that he was dumb and took PEDs twice and they popped him both times. Yeah, my buddies saw needles all over the clubhouse. I mean legit being used, they never did and even now think it might've cost them a career. Who know's...
saskjayfan Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 I disagree but I don't have sources to back up my claim so I'm not going to argue on this. I feel like if this is the second time for Cano he was probably always using and has just happened to be caught twice, less so that he was dumb and took PEDs twice and they popped him both times. Yeah and Trump really won the election. Conspiracy theories! With randomized testing, players don't know when they will be tested and when this is the case it's extremely difficult to beat. The covid season probably made PED testing a lot more lax. Robbie just rolled the dice and lost. Good players get tested way more frequently. Robbie wasn't that good anymore. Maybe he thought he wouldn't get tested.
G-Snarls Community Moderator Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 The s***** part about this is that the Mets probably have an extra 24 million to spend on free agents. Like we needed that... Oh yeah MLB network callers are already spending it with abandon
Spanky__99 Old-Timey Member Posted November 19, 2020 Posted November 19, 2020 Oh yeah MLB network callers are already spending it with abandon Yeah, two top hillbillies, lol.
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