Around Baseball 2020

[Spanky__99]

Very few players aged 30+ have won MVPs since 2000. This year they're both 30+

 

And 1B-man.

[Brownie19]

Ryan Tepera apparently got a MVP vote.

 

Well deserved.

 

the f***?

[Spanky__99]

the f***?

 

These guys need to be pulled in an alley and fixed. Seriously.

[TheHurl]

Ryan Tepera apparently got a MVP vote.

 

Well deserved.

 

It was supposed to be for Trea Turner

[Brownie19]

It was supposed to be for Trea Turner

 

Only in America can people f*** up voting this bad.

[Carlos Danger]

Only in America can people f*** up voting this bad.

 

Old guy, let the computer get the best of him... At least he is alive and voting, can't say that for many other voters this past election..

[G-Snarls]

Old guy, let the computer get the best of him... At least he is alive and voting, can't say that for many other voters this past election..

 

Maybe he voted in Broward County, Florida...

[G-Snarls]

Yes. They'll figure out a retirement calling card.

 

Beating a dead horse here but...

 

The Angels have paid Albert Pujols 210 MILLION DOLLARS to put up a grand total of 6.4 WAR over 9 seasons. He hasn't posted a positive WAR since 2016 and he's getting paid another 30M next year

 

Cardinals were sooooo smart to let him walk and I think every team has learned from this

[BTS]

Beating a dead horse here but...

 

The Angels have paid Albert Pujols 210 MILLION DOLLARS to put up a grand total of 6.4 WAR over 9 seasons. He hasn't posted a positive WAR since 2016 and he's getting paid another 30M next year

 

Cardinals were sooooo smart to let him walk and I think every team has learned from this

 

Only one year left! They've come this far without cutting him, I'm guessing they just ride it out at this point and part amicably.

[Carlos Danger]

Beating a dead horse here but...

 

The Angels have paid Albert Pujols 210 MILLION DOLLARS to put up a grand total of 6.4 WAR over 9 seasons. He hasn't posted a positive WAR since 2016 and he's getting paid another 30M next year

 

Cardinals were sooooo smart to let him walk and I think every team has learned from this

 

Plus they took Vernon Wells from us and paid his salary...! Just to pour salt in their wound..

[connorp]

Beating a dead horse here but...

 

The Angels have paid Albert Pujols 210 MILLION DOLLARS to put up a grand total of 6.4 WAR over 9 seasons. He hasn't posted a positive WAR since 2016 and he's getting paid another 30M next year

 

Cardinals were sooooo smart to let him walk and I think every team has learned from this

 

Did they though? I’m not sure if an exact clone of Pujols came along, that it’d go much differently

[connorp]

I mean in Mike Trout was a FA after next year, what’s he pull? Pujols was that level

[Orgfiller]

Did they though? I’m not sure if an exact clone of Pujols came along, that it’d go much differently

 

*Looks over in Miguel Cabrera's direction*

[G-Snarls]

Did they though? I’m not sure if an exact clone of Pujols came along, that it’d go much differently

 

Teams are obviously still willing to give out long term deals to guys aged 27/28 or so, but once they reach 30+ it just doesn't seem to even be considered anymore. Sranton/Machado/Harper will have some bad years paid at high $, but not likely nearly as many as Pujols did.

[connorp]

*Looks over in Miguel Cabrera's direction*

 

Yeah that should’ve been first thing to pop to mind I guess

[G-Snarls]

Plus they took Vernon Wells from us and paid his salary...! Just to pour salt in their wound..

 

Also 125M for Josh Hamilton

 

Yeah rhe track record hasn't been great

[BTS]

I mean in Mike Trout was a FA after next year, what’s he pull? Pujols was that level

 

It's an interesting question. Pujols was entering his age-32 season, but was coming off the worst offensive season of his career, and IIRC had visibly lost some of his athleticism. If Trout's next three years went 8.4, 6.8, and 3.9 fWAR without major injury, I don't think he gets a 10-year deal before his age-32 season. But 7-8 wouldn't be surprising.

[connorp]

Teams are obviously still willing to give out long term deals to guys aged 27/28 or so, but once they reach 30+ it just doesn't seem to even be considered anymore. Sranton/Machado/Harper will have some bad years paid at high $, but not likely nearly as many as Pujols did.

 

Miggy was pushing 30 and they extended him at huge dollars to 40

[connorp]

But yeah, I guess 40 is where you draw the line

[connorp]

Don’t forget too, sometimes there’s other factors at play besides projected WAR. Wasn’t the owner angling for a huge tv deal around that time?

[glory]

[Brownie19]

Beating a dead horse here but...

 

The Angels have paid Albert Pujols 210 MILLION DOLLARS to put up a grand total of 6.4 WAR over 9 seasons. He hasn't posted a positive WAR since 2016 and he's getting paid another 30M next year

 

Cardinals were sooooo smart to let him walk and I think every team has learned from this

 

The only way I think you can firmly claim the Cardinals were "sooooo smart" is if they knew Pujols was older than the birth certificate said or something. If Pujols aged like Ortiz, Beltre or Cruz then they would have looked foolish to let the legend go. He would have been finished his career with 110+ WAR and may have made a run at the all time home run record.

[G-Snarls]

The only way I think you can firmly claim the Cardinals were "sooooo smart" is if they knew Pujols was older than the birth certificate said or something. If Pujols aged like Ortiz, Beltre or Cruz then they would have looked foolish to let the legend go. He would have been finished his career with 110+ WAR and may have made a run at the all time home run record.

 

I dunno. They set a limit on their offer and stuck to it. (They offered him 200M IIRC and he turned it down) A bit of luck maybe in addition to shrewd.

 

On a side note, they got more WAR from their Michael Wacha comp pick for letting Pujols go than Pujols has put up since.

Edited November 13, 2020 by G-Snarls

[Orgfiller]

Keep in mind it wasn't just the Pujols signing that set the Angels back financially. Even if like BTS accurately points out there were some big red flags with Pujols entering free agency, he was still a first ballot HoF and one of the more recognizable names in the sport so some team was gonna pay him. They also took on the Vernon Wells contract in the midst of a dead cat bounce, and they gave huge contracts to Josh Hamilton and CJ Wilson, all of which either were albatrosses immediately or became so very quickly. Neither of those three players finished out their contracts playing for an MLB team. The Angels consistently have shot themselves in the foot past the Pujols signing.

[metafour]

 

YAAAAAAAAS QUEEEEEN! Girl poooooweeeeer!

 

J/k; she seems like a good candidate.

[King]

YAAAAAAAAS QUEEEEEN! Girl poooooweeeeer!

 

J/k; she seems like a good candidate.

 

Why was this even necessary?

 

Can't a woman do something good for once (Luba, Ng) without you mouthbreathers pouncing on it like hyenas?

[RobinThicc]

Crazy, baseballs been around 150 years and finally gets a woman gm.

 

Hope she does well

[RustyTrombone]

Why was this even necessary?

 

Can't a woman do something good for once (Luba, Ng) without you mouthbreathers pouncing on it like hyenas?

 

Holy s*** relax you f***ing twerp.

[King]

Holy s*** relax you f***ing twerp.

 

No, you!

[metafour]

Why was this even necessary?

 

Can't a woman do something good for once (Luba, Ng) without you mouthbreathers pouncing on it like hyenas?

 

Its necessary because the "YAAAAS QUEEN" "meme" is among the lamest and cringiest memes of the past decade.

 

Issa joke. YAAAAAAAAAAS!