Around Baseball 2020

[Laika]

There are obviously more reasons than this (salary cap vs. non salary cap leagues, MLB suffered more losses due to Covid, etc), but I don't see the point in having the non tender date, 40 man roster cut off, and Rule 5 draft happen around a month (or more) into the off season. If all of this s*** was done by the first week of the off season, then we might have seen at least some activity by now. Not sure why everything needs to be so spread out. Even pre Covid this was an issue with MLB off seasons. Last winter was a bit of an aberration since there was a lot of money thrown around.

 

Not sure why everything can't be so spread out? Relax

[Orgfiller]

Archie Bradley non-tender is weird.

 

Declining velo and for some reason his projections are brutal so the Reds' own projections must somewhat match with that.

[glory]

Not sure why everything can't be so spread out? Relax

 

It's been over 30 days since FA/the off season started. You don't need 30 days to figure out who you want to protect from your minor league system and who you want to non tender. Could have probably had both those things done by the first week of the off season and nothing would have changed. Seems pointless to spread this out. Of course getting these things (NT deadline, 40 man roster adds, Rule 5 draft, etc) over with sooner doesn't guarantee FA/trade action happening any quicker, but it doesn't need to be spread out over a month and a half, either.

[glory]

 

[G-Snarls]

59 more free agents

[Jays24]

59 more free agents

 

So pissed the Mets had to change ownership this damn year. If it weren't for them, we'd be able to go shopping like we're on Supermarket Sweep lol.

Edited December 3, 2020 by Jays24

[Brownie19]

Matt Wisler now too.

 

Wisler threw his slider 81.3% of the time last year. Holy f***!

[King]

 

*checks notes*

 

Ah yes, gotta make sure you give playing time to Raimel Tapia and Sam Hilliard

[Spanky__99]

 

*checks notes*

 

Ah yes, gotta make sure you give playing time to Raimel Tapia and Sam Hilliard

 

lol... terrible.

[BTS]

 

*checks notes*

 

Ah yes, gotta make sure you give playing time to Raimel Tapia and Sam Hilliard

 

lol, their only OF projected to be above replacement level is Blackmon, and he projects below average.

[Orgfiller]

 

*checks notes*

 

Ah yes, gotta make sure you give playing time to Raimel Tapia and Sam Hilliard

 

This is a stupid quote, but entirely in their defense is the fact that David Dahl is made of glass, is a pretty bad fielder and not a good enough hitter to make up for it. He literally projects to be below replacement level lol.

[z3r0s]

 

*checks notes*

 

Ah yes, gotta make sure you give playing time to Raimel Tapia and Sam Hilliard

 

Hilliard will be an ALL-STAR

 

*checks notes* *still owns him in fantasy*

 

yeeeeeeah.

[glory]

 

Realmuto's options would be very limited if this happens, with Philly losing $850 trillion due to Covid (give or take) according to their owner.

[G-Snarls]

 

Realmuto's options would be very limited if this happens, with Philly losing $850 trillion due to Covid (give or take) according to their owner.

 

I just don't want his price to fall to where the Yankees can absorb him comfortably

[Brownie19]

4 years for McCann? That's insane.

[glory]

I just don't want his price to fall to where the Yankees can absorb him comfortably

 

The Yankees tendered Gary Sanchez, so they might be out on the catching market, especially since they have to re-sign LeMathieu to a big deal.

 

Not sure what other teams would be in on Realmuto at the price range he's looking for if the Mets sign McCann. If the Jays miss out on Springer and LeMathieu, and McCann signs with the Mets, then it might open up Realmuto to the Jays.

[Carlos Danger]

The Yankees tendered Gary Sanchez, so they might be out on the catching market, especially since they have to re-sign LeMathieu to a big deal.

 

Not sure what other teams would be in on Realmuto at the price range he's looking for if the Mets sign McCann. If the Jays miss out on Springer and LeMathieu, and McCann signs with the Mets, then it might open up Realmuto to the Jays.

 

I don't want to blow our load on a 30 yr old catcher who wants a long term deal with all our catching in the system. Tampa made it to the WS with a nobody catcher and LAD did it with a rookie... I don't think that would be a good allocation of our assets..

[Laika]

The Yankees tendered Gary Sanchez, so they might be out on the catching market, especially since they have to re-sign LeMathieu to a big deal.

 

Not sure what other teams would be in on Realmuto at the price range he's looking for if the Mets sign McCann. If the Jays miss out on Springer and LeMathieu, and McCann signs with the Mets, then it might open up Realmuto to the Jays.

 

If Realmuto's price tag starts to come down a little bit there are probably a number of teams that will be pretty interested.

 

I know he was projected for something like 5/$125 but that might have always been a bit too rich for a catcher like him. Grandal got 4/$73. Toronto gave Russell Martin 5/$82. At say 5/$90 are teams like the Tigers or Rockies getting in line?

 

I'm with Carlos. I think it would be forcing the issue for Toronto to sign Realmuto even if his price tag drops.

[glory]

I don't want to blow our load on a 30 yr old catcher who wants a long term deal with all our catching in the system. Tampa made it to the WS with a nobody catcher and LAD did it with a rookie... I don't think that would be a good allocation of our assets..

 

I don't think the Jays should be investing that much in a catcher turning 30 either, especially since they have a lot of depth there (even though there's no guarantee any of them end up being as good as JTR) but realistically if they wanted to acquire an "impact" player this off season, then a few dominos could lead to Realmuto being the most realistic player who fits that criteria. Then they can trade Jansen for another area of need, and so on. My preference in this market is one of Springer/Bauer/LeMathieu, and I would think that's the Jays preference as well, but circumstances could change.

[G-Snarls]

If Realmuto's price tag starts to come down a little bit there are probably a number of teams that will be pretty interested.

 

I know he was projected for something like 5/$125 but that might have always been a bit too rich for a catcher like him. Grandal got 4/$73. Toronto gave Russell Martin 5/$82. At say 5/$90 are teams like the Tigers or Rockies getting in line?

 

I'm with Carlos. I think it would be forcing the issue for Toronto to sign Realmuto even if his price tag drops.

 

At that price rhe Phillies should retain him

 

They traded Sixto Sanchez to get him and the owner once said he didn't want to trade Sixto for JTR if he wasn't staying long term.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/phillies-owner-reveals-he-wasnt-on-board-with-trading-sixto-sanchez-for-j-t-realmuto-without-extension/amp/

[Spanky__99]

 

Realmuto's options would be very limited if this happens, with Philly losing $850 trillion due to Covid (give or take) according to their owner.

 

I saw this earlier today, I call BS. Why would they pass on JT?

[G-Snarls]

I saw this earlier today, I call BS. Why would they pass on JT?

 

Only plausible reason would be if they reached out to his agent and they were told he doesn't want to sign there

 

This may be a false rumor or may be the Mets trying to manipulate the market?

[Brownie19]

I don't want to blow our load on a 30 yr old catcher who wants a long term deal with all our catching in the system. Tampa made it to the WS with a nobody catcher and LAD did it with a rookie... I don't think that would be a good allocation of our assets..

 

Might be if we can trade a catcher or two for Lindor, CFer or SPer...

[Spanky__99]

Only plausible reason would be if they reached out to his agent and they were told he doesn't want to sign there

 

This may be a false rumor or may be the Mets trying to manipulate the market?

 

I'm thinking the latter to get the price down.

[G-Snarls]

A Realmuto signing is dependent on what we could trade Jansen and Moreno for. Because obviously you just run JTR as your primary catcher and give Kirk another year or two to develop, or just work him in slowly.

 

Atkins keeps saying teams are blowing his phone up for our catchers so I would assume there is a significant upgrade we can make somewhere with those trade chips.

 

Jansen and Kirk are so low cost

 

They could be interesting trade pieces to a team with no money and a major need at the catcher position

 

Tampa??? Cleveland? Detroit?

 

I'd rather keep them both but not if we can't get at least 2 impact players at 3B/OF/SP2

Edited December 3, 2020 by G-Snarls

[glory]

A Realmuto signing is dependent on what we could trade Jansen and Moreno for. Because obviously you just run JTR as your primary catcher and give Kirk another year or two to develop, or just work him in slowly.

 

Atkins keeps saying teams are blowing his phone up for our catchers so I would assume there is a significant upgrade we can make somewhere with those trade chips.

 

Agreed. The better option is clearly signing LeMathieu or Springer since both fill obvious needs, but a pivot towards Realmuto + trading catching depth, if that's what ends up being available to the Jays, has to be considered an option depending on the circumstances (what Realmuto would cost, what teams are offering for Jansen, etc).

[Spanky__99]

This Joe Gatto signing by the Rangers is really strange. Am I missing something?

[Brownie19]

This Joe Gatto signing by the Rangers is really strange. Am I missing something?

 

Gatto's agent deserves a raise.

[Spanky__99]

Gatto's agent deserves a raise.

 

Seriously, how does he get a major league contract?

[Spanky__99]