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Dokken College Ball

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Here's the quote.

 

yeah the Jays absolutely can not afford a 2021 season with travel restrictions due to covid19. It would be the likely death knell of the Toronto Blue Jays - then again covid19 restrictions will f*** up the entire MLB if it goes into 2021 season. It will be bad all around!

Abomination Buffalo Bisons

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yeah the Jays absolutely can not afford a 2021 season with travel restrictions due to covid19. It would be the likely death knell of the Toronto Blue Jays - then again covid19 restrictions will f*** up the entire MLB if it goes into 2021 season. It will be bad all around!

 

Fingers crossed that there's a vaccine by April.

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Yeah it (and/or other vaccine candidates) will certainly go through; and even if it is not so effective (like the flu vaccine) will remove any pretense for continuing 'restrictions' on travel etc. Precautions, especially for those known to be more vulnerable will likely continue, but the vast majority including pro sports should hopefully get back to something approximating 'normal'. Problem is that free agency starts in a few weeks, but vaccine penetration and breaking down the arbitrary barriers that the covid19 response has created is going to take a while longer..... Still seems the Jays will have an extra disadvantage (over and above the usual disadvantage in attracting free agents) in this current situation..... Oh well, we can look forward to 2022 at which time Joe is sure to have personally discovered the CURE

Abomination Buffalo Bisons

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Really, that suxxxxxx.

 

I remember going to Nat Bailey when I was a kid. My mom remembers going when she was young, and all the kids would try to look through knotholes in the outfield fence. Lots of history there. I was really happy when it was announced as a Jays affiliate.

Dokken College Ball

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Jays have lost Vancouver as an affiliate it seems

 

Any indication is it due to being in Canada? It is brutal to think of not so long ago all the AAA teams in Canada and now NOTHING! f***!!!

Dick_Pole FCL Blue Jays

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yeah the Jays absolutely can not afford a 2021 season with travel restrictions due to covid19. It would be the likely death knell of the Toronto Blue Jays - then again covid19 restrictions will f*** up the entire MLB if it goes into 2021 season. It will be bad all around!

 

I fail to see how this would be the end of the Jays. One of the stronger franchise and ownership pairing. Rogers has absolutely zero interest in moving this team to a U.S. city permanently.

Spanky99 GOAT

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Good. Let those hippies out west get their own MLB team instead of vicariously living through ours.

 

Hah... it was the Jays that wanted out, walked.

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Hah... it was the Jays that wanted out, walked.

 

That's actually good. A sign they are willing to give up the whole "Canada's team" bit and let some expansion come back up north. Not that I would expect the Jays to be one of the top 10 roadblocks to seeing something like that happen.

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That's actually good. A sign they are willing to give up the whole "Canada's team" bit and let some expansion come back up north. Not that I would expect the Jays to be one of the top 10 roadblocks to seeing something like that happen.

 

I read many moons ago that Dunedin might carry two squads playing out of their camp.

Dick_Pole FCL Blue Jays

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IIRC it had much more to do with corporate funding than the actual fanbase. Plus let's be fair. The Vancouver Grizzlies was one of the worst performing franchises ever, even with the expansion handicap. Who would want to cheer for that after the novelty wore off? Under those circumstances I'd say the fan base was pretty good. Even I figured out they were dumb as a dumb teenager myself when they let the Raptors have BJ Armstrong as trade bait to ensure they wouldn't draft Big Country.
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IIRC it had much more to do with corporate funding than the actual fanbase. Plus let's be fair. The Vancouver Grizzlies was one of the worst performing franchises ever, even with the expansion handicap. Who would want to cheer for that after the novelty wore off? Under those circumstances I'd say the fan base was pretty good. Even I figured out they were dumb as a dumb teenager myself when they let the Raptors have BJ Armstrong as trade bait to ensure they wouldn't draft Big Country.

 

What's this expansion handicap you speak of? I remember reading they weren't allowed any of the top picks in the first few season, even if they won the lottery. And they didn't have access to their full cap space to begin with.

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What's this expansion handicap you speak of? I remember reading they weren't allowed any of the top picks in the first few season, even if they won the lottery. And they didn't have access to their full cap space to begin with.

 

I meant expansion meaning having to overcome being a bad team in general for a few years, but that specifically. The league didn't want another Shaq incident for a new team so they put in that extra handicap. A far cry from the desperation of today's NHL to make teams work in new markets. Have them hit the finals in their first year.

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Did the Vancouver NBA team have Raptor like support, or no? I don’t recall how it all went down

 

It didn't have the Raptors level of support, but if I remember right it also had an ownership group that wanted a team in the USA and were denied it. They basically tried to keep support down in order to convince the league to move the team (and eventually it worked). They were never really given a fair chance.

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Did the Vancouver NBA team have Raptor like support, or no? I don’t recall how it all went down

 

I still don't get how they moved to Memphis, one of the smaller markets. A Vancouver nba team would have been killing it today with all the Asians that are in the city now.

jaysguy44 FCL Blue Jays

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Did the Vancouver NBA team have Raptor like support, or no? I don’t recall how it all went down

 

The Raptors wouldn't even have a team today if it wasn't for VC, he saved that franchise. They didn't always have the support.

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