2019 Trade Deadline Thread

[Slade]

I'm sure some teams will still look to him but could definitely boost Stroman stocks. Shoulder fatigue is so vague.

[Spanky99]

 

Helps the Stroman value a little bit, now they need to get rid of him before the same thing happens

 

The Braves just lost their set-up man in Webb... also good for a Giles destination.

[Brownie19]

MLB Network - JP Morosi hypothetical trade:

 

To Houston

Robbie Ray

 

To Arizona

Forrest Whitley

Derek Fisher

J.B Bukauskas

[Slade]

The one guy almost assuredly not getting moved in the Astro's system is Whitley.

[Orgfiller]

MLB Network - JP Morosi hypothetical trade:

 

To Houston

Robbie Ray

 

To Arizona

Forrest Whitley

Derek Fisher

J.B Bukauskas

 

That's an absurd haul for Robbie Ray, the Astros would do much better than that for those assets, even with Whitley's stock being tanked this season.

[Laika]

s*** I'd give them Stroman + Giles just for this gas can version of Whitley.

[AintNoThang]

I'd like to know who you dudes think is a realistic main piece coming back. We know it's not going to be a Lewis, Whitley, Tucker, Kiriloff, etc. I personally think the most realistic best option is Graterol at the moment.

[jaysguy44]

Morosi figures the Jays should be able to get back a top 5 prospect in the team's system for Giles.

 

Is that what you guys expect?

[Terminator]

Morosi figures the Jays should be able to get back a top 5 prospect in the team's system for Giles.

 

Is that what you guys expect?

 

If he were completely healthy then yes, absolutely. He needs to re-establish his health and put up some dominant performances over the next two weeks.

[Slade]

Morosi figures the Jays should be able to get back a top 5 prospect in the team's system for Giles.

 

Is that what you guys expect?

 

Yea for sure at least one org top 5 guy +.

 

Stroman has to net at least one mlb top 50 guy.

[glory]

Absolutely. However, it's all relative as there are some teams with monstrous farm systems. If you trade Giles to the Braves, Rays or Padres, you can get two top 10 prospects that would be in the top 5 for most teams.

 

The Rays just traded a top 10-12 prospect for a minor league reliever with 2 TJs.

 

Yeah agreed, it really depends on the farm system. A top 5 prospect on a s***** farm system really doesn't mean much, but the 10th prospect in a stacked system might be the equivalent of a top 5. Either way a healthy Giles should be able to fetch at least one legit top 100 prospect plus a lotto ticket or two.

 

Of course he needs to be healthy and pitching. Cross fingers.

[Abomination]

I'd like to know who you dudes think is a realistic main piece coming back. We know it's not going to be a Lewis, Whitley, Tucker, Kiriloff, etc. I personally think the most realistic best option is Graterol at the moment.

 

I wonder if they'd do something like McCullers and Martin?

 

McCullers is approximately equal to Stroman, but has an extra year of control (some of that will likely be burned from TJS recovery). Martin will likely miss all of 2020, but is roughly MLB ready when he does return in 2021. Seems fairly reasonable. We could pay the salary difference between Stroman and McCullers (which isn't much) if needed.

[Spanky99]

I wonder if they'd do something like McCullers and Martin?

 

McCullers is approximately equal to Stroman, but has an extra year of control (some of that will likely be burned from TJS recovery). Martin will likely miss all of 2020, but is roughly MLB ready when he does return in 2021. Seems fairly reasonable. We could pay the salary difference between Stroman and McCullers (which isn't much) if needed.

 

Ewwwwwww... too much risk, man.

[Barkerfan23]

I expect at least 1 top 100 pitching prospect for each

 

Not a guy in rookie ball

Not another reclamation project

 

Solid blue chip price

[Brownie19]

The one guy almost assuredly not getting moved in the Astro's system is Whitley.

 

Why is that? Just because Cole is a FA next year? I'd assume they'd protect Tucker more.

[Abomination]

Ewwwwwww... too much risk, man.

 

Meh, Martin is one of their ~top 5 prospects, so you're basically getting Martin and an extra year of Stroman's equivalent for Stroman. I mean, I'd love to pry a legit top 10 prospect from someone, but I doubt it'll happen. If those guys are off limits, this is something that would be worth accepting rather than just keeping Stro or getting some low wildcards imo.

[Brownie19]

Absolutely. However, it's all relative as there are some teams with monstrous farm systems. If you trade Giles to the Braves, Rays or Padres, you can get two top 10 prospects that would be in the top 5 for most teams.

 

The Rays just traded a top 10-12 prospect for a minor league reliever with 2 TJs.

 

Fairbanks is the RP version of Glasnow. Huge extension and arm angle will make his 96-98 MPH fastball look like 100+

[Dick_Pole]

 

Helps the Stroman value a little bit, now they need to get rid of him before the same thing happens

 

LOL not even a Raptors championship has done anything to alleviate the negativity and paranoia surrounding Toronto sports teams being cursed. I for one think the Jays should lock Stroman up in a Cryogenic tank until he's traded. He is literally a 100% certainty to have a Joel Zumaya or Dave Dravecky moment at any time.

[P2F]

[jaysguy44]

 

Cubs

[Abomination]

That's a better return than I would have expected.

[P2F]

For those that don't want to look, it's Mike Montgomery going the other way.

[Abomination]

And Contreras goes down with an injury. Spooky!

[Barkerfan23]

2 weeks to the trade deadline. A single injury to Stroman will ensure that he has no trade value. Should trade him this week and get a good prospect

 

Any team interested at the end of July is interested now.

[z3r0s]

The waiting is the hardest part... cue the Tom Petty

[P2F]

It's been reported by The Athletic that the Jays are seeking an Archer-like return (Glasnow, Meadows, Baz) for Stroman.

[glory]

Was the Glasnow/Meadows package even viewed favorably at the time? Obviously in hindsight it looks like a heist as Tampa turned them around almost instantly and turned them into much more valuable players than they were showing in Pittsburgh. It will be very hard to duplicate that. Tampa could probably take members of this forum and turn them into 2 WAR players. Their player development is excellent.

[Brownie19]

Was the Glasnow/Meadows package even viewed favorably at the time? Obviously in hindsight it looks like a heist as Tampa turned them around almost instantly and turned them into much more valuable players than they were showing in Pittsburgh. It will be very hard to duplicate that. Tampa could probably take members of this forum and turn them into 2 WAR players. Their player development is excellent.

 

Yeah it's hard to know if they're talking about the current, post trade value....or what they were at the time, which was a pair of once very highly regarded prospects who seemed to fizzle out in AAA and/or their first few shots at the ML level. Obviously both are very talented, but they were both viewed somewhat as reclamation projects (guys who needed a fresh start) at the time of the trade.

[Carlos Danger]

Was the Glasnow/Meadows package even viewed favorably at the time? Obviously in hindsight it looks like a heist as Tampa turned them around almost instantly and turned them into much more valuable players than they were showing in Pittsburgh. It will be very hard to duplicate that. Tampa could probably take members of this forum and turn them into 2 WAR players. Their player development is excellent.

 

With the beautiful mansions on the bay, multiple boating and water-sports opportunities, great Cuban food, high-quality strippers and no state tax, I am pretty sure Tampa could make me a consistent 5 WAR player...

[Laika]

Was the Glasnow/Meadows package even viewed favorably at the time?

 

Depends who you asked. Most people would have still considered Meadows to be quite valuable in context... I think he was actually performing well for Pittsburgh that year. Lots thought of Glasnow as a bit of a dumpster fire though.

 

It would be similar to getting Frazier + someone like Jonathan Loaisiga or maybe Jordan Montgomery from the Yankees.