2019 Trade Deadline Thread

[L54]

Agreed. I'm not expecting Top 20 or 30 guys but I want a top 100 guy for each, plus some Top 10-15 org guys thrown in as well. Position doesn't matter a whole lot but we all know what our needs are. I don't even care so much about age either, they don't have to be close to big league ready.

 

Pay salary, throw in Sogard or Galvis or something if you have too, but the goal should be quality prospects. No more Drury's.

 

I agree. We don't need to acquire "depth" or "bounce back" guys, there are enough of them floating around. Find guys who will be ready to make an impact at some point next season

[Abomination]

Pay salary, throw in Sogard or Galvis or something if you have too, but the goal should be quality prospects. No more Drury's.

 

To be fair, some of the guys like Voit, Cooper, etc are exactly Drury types. They've simply worked out while ours hasn't. I agree though, if we're giving up Stroman or Giles, we have to get more than wildcards in return.

[Slade]

I won't be satisfied with anything less than a haul for the two of them. Each should return a top 100 guy at minimum, plus sweeteners. The farm should look good again at the end of the year even after the promotions of Vlad, Biggio, Bichette, Jansen.

 

I don't really care hitter/pitcher, we need everything so just go get the guys who you think can be the most impactful. Getting antsy for the rumour mill to start churning with speculative names

 

Dodgers, Astros, Yankees, Braves, Twins all have good farms and will be active at the deadline. This should feel like a wet dream for Atkins, just please don't fumble on your way to the end zone.

 

 

Absolutely whoever they get back need to be a top 100 guys or someone who is just about to break into the top 100. No more McKinneys and Drurys.

[L54]

To be fair, some of the guys like Voit, Cooper, etc are exactly Drury types. They've simply worked out while ours hasn't. I agree though, if we're giving up Stroman or Giles, we have to get more than wildcards in return.

 

Voit was a targeted man, NYY knew exactly what they were doing when they traded for him.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

I won't be satisfied with anything less than a haul for the two of them. Each should return a top 100 guy at minimum, plus sweeteners. The farm should look good again at the end of the year even after the promotions of Vlad, Biggio, Bichette, Jansen.

 

I don't really care hitter/pitcher, we need everything so just go get the guys who you think can be the most impactful. Getting antsy for the rumour mill to start churning with speculative names

 

Dodgers, Astros, Yankees, Braves, Twins all have good farms and will be active at the deadline. This should feel like a wet dream for Atkins, just please don't fumble on your way to the end zone.

 

So Twins have then Dodgers , as I am dead set against any Trades with them Damn Yankees Pfffft !!!

 

So Realistically what would be your ask

 

Twins:

 

Giles for Luis Arrararz and throw in sogard if needed ?

Or more along Griffin Jax

 

Or Luis Rijo

 

 

Dodgers :

 

DJ peters ?

 

Josiah Gray ?

 

Is one of either enough of a get curious to hear what the BJMB thinks ?

[PhillyBlueJay]

I think Atkins needs to think about moving Stroman and Giles in a package deal if it makes sense for the Jays to maximize top prospect return.

 

Trying to flip these two individually at the deadline usually means getting 10 different trade proposals from a contending team unwilling to part with any of their top 3-4 prospects at all costs. What they end up getting is offered packages of two B or B+ player types, and 1 C+ player type, with possibly a throw in lottery pick with a top drafted player in the previous year that is to hard to tell if they will be good enough yet in double AA. The Jays do not need C+ or B+ prospects as they have them already but rather true valued A and A+ pitchers in the top 40 range.

 

The smart play is to shop both of these guys to Braves, Padres, Brewers, and Twins with 1.5 years of control for two top players. This should net a combination of two players rated as A or A+ prospects, 1 B+ prospect, and a last year drafted player with high upside. This becomes an easier sell for those teams to their fans as they can say they are all in this year and next year at the cost of their top prospects and positions them now for a strong play-off run.

 

Keep in mind prospects are more highly valued in the last 3 years then they have ever been, so wanting 2 top elite prospects from an organization that is deep in highly rated prospects requires giving up "true" current value now and next year with 1.5 years of control.

 

My bet is on the Braves, we all know AA is about aggressive opportunity and going for it!

[Jimcanuck]

Dodgers, Astros, Yankees, Braves, Twins all have good farms and will be active at the deadline. This should feel like a wet dream for Atkins, just please don't fumble on your way to the end zone.

 

Phillies are the contender with the weakest bullpen and have some nice farm pieces.

[Abomination]

Voit was a targeted man, NYY knew exactly what they were doing when they traded for him.

 

He was insurance for Bird, who was expected to man 1st every day.

[Terminator]

Is it possible that Eric Sogard could actually net some sort of nominal return at the deadline? Slashing .305/.376/.495 in over 250 PAs. Maybe an NL team would give up a lottery ticket for him?

[Brownie19]

According to Buck - every contending team in baseball should be calling about Daniel Hudson because he's been lights out and leads the league in inherited base runners left on base. He thinks there might be interest in Giles too.

 

 

 

He's being paid to say this stuff on air folks...

[Jonn]

Is it possible that Eric Sogard could actually net some sort of nominal return at the deadline? Slashing .305/.376/.495 in over 250 PAs. Maybe an NL team would give up a lottery ticket for him?

 

Yea I think we could a little something interesting for him. Its a really nice sample for him. Definitely a lottery ticket.

[baubau]

Is it possible that Eric Sogard could actually net some sort of nominal return at the deadline? Slashing .305/.376/.495 in over 250 PAs. Maybe an NL team would give up a lottery ticket for him?

 

I think you'd be looking at what Pearce got you last year. Something like a Espinal, someone who hopefully becomes what Sogard has been (prior to this year).

[TBJ12]

According to Buck - every contending team in baseball should be calling about Daniel Hudson because he's been lights out and leads the league in inherited base runners left on base. He thinks there might be interest in Giles too.

 

 

 

He's being paid to say this stuff on air folks...

 

I'm sure Buck is well aware Giles is the better pitcher. No harm in pointing out what Hudson has done. Buck can be annoying but he's still a former MLB catcher who's likely far better at evaluating pitchers than a very large majority of this board.

[Barkerfan23]

Dumbtoyo is doing his best to grind Giles in to the ground.

[Ray]

Freddy Galvis could honestly be worth something decent as well. He’s been riding a hot stretch recently and has seen an uptick in power. Obviously really good defensively and great clubhouse guy. On top of that, he’s also signed to an affordable $5M team option for next season. When he was traded to the Padres, he ended up netting the Phillies a pretty good piece in Enyel de los Santos. I wonder if we could end up getting a near ready backend of the rotation guy for him, but it depends on which team needs a backup INF for the playoffs, which right now isn’t really many.

[Spanky99]

Last year there were 15 bullpens with a FIP under 4. This year there's only 5. Giles has a 0.97 FIP. He might as well be Rivera.

 

I just watched the Nats close a game with Venters and Rodney. They have a $164M payroll and 3 aces.

 

I can't imagine a scenario where Giles could have higher value. The NL alone has WAS, PHI, CHI, COL, STL and MIL all competing for 2 spots and they have nothing in the pen except Hader, Doolittle the ghost of Kimbrel and Giovanny Gallegos.

 

The Rockies have shown interest in Stroman going on 2 years, I could see them making a pitch at him also, although their Farm isn't exactly robust... Welker, Rolison would be key targets.

[Spanky99]

That trade simulator suxxxxxxx... just saying.

[Brownie19]

I'm sure Buck is well aware Giles is the better pitcher. No harm in pointing out what Hudson has done. Buck can be annoying but he's still a former MLB catcher who's likely far better at evaluating pitchers than a very large majority of this board.

 

I'm going to agree to disagree. I have little doubt that Buck sees the 2.79 ERA, cites his 96-97 MPH fastball and has no idea what all those other stats mean. He was asking like we're going to get a haul for him. Oh was better last year than Hudson is this year, plus he had another year of control at a reasonable price and we didn't get much for him. I'm all for trading Hudson, and maybe he will help out a team if his LOB% luck continues, but we aren't getting jack s*** for him at the deadline.

 

As for Buck being a catcher and thus being a superior evaluator of talent...I don't know man. Pitching in 1975 - 1985 is a s*** ton different than pitching in 2019.

[glory]

Last year there were 15 bullpens with a FIP under 4. This year there's only 5. Giles has a 0.97 FIP. He might as well be Rivera.

 

I just watched the Nats close a game with Venters and Rodney. They have a $164M payroll and 3 aces.

 

I can't imagine a scenario where Giles could have higher value. The NL alone has WAS, PHI, CHI, COL, STL and MIL all competing for 2 spots and they have nothing in the pen except Hader, Doolittle the ghost of Kimbrel and Giovanny Gallegos.

 

Seriously, if Giles is healthy and dominating like this, then we should get a huge haul for him. Well, huge by today's standards (meaning a legit top 100 prospect and some intriguing lottery tickets). He's not only great now but has an extra year of control after this one. We need to get a great return here.

[BlueRocky]

Quick snippet from Jim Bowden’s recent Athletics article

 

There are only nine major-league clubs that aren’t within five games of making the postseason — which means we could have fewer sellers this season than originally thought. In the National League, a staggering 12 out of 15 teams are presently within 5 1/2 games of either first place or a wild-card berth. In the American League, there are nine teams within 4 1/2 games of a playoff appearance. That leaves us with only nine teams that I would consider certain sellers, with just a month to go until the “hard” July 31 trade deadline. Of course, a lot can change between now and then, and in all likelihood, several more teams will join that list in the next few weeks.

 

As for the 21 current contenders who will be trying to make deals to improve their chances, they’re facing a market with unusually high demand and low inventory. In other words, it’s a real sellers’ market this year.

 

There are several starting pitchers from those nine selling clubs whom contenders are interested in, including Madison Bumgarner of the Giants, Caleb Smith of the Marlins, Matthew Boyd of the Tigers and Marcus Stroman of the Blue Jays. In terms of back-end reliever types, those available include the Blue Jays’ Ken Giles, the Tigers’ Shane Greene, the Giants’ Will Smith and Alex Colomé of the White Sox. Other closers have not been made available so far, but several executives I spoke to think the Padres would at least listen to compelling offers on Kirby Yates; the same goes for the Pirates and Felipe Vázquez.

 

Toronto Blue Jays

 

The Blue Jays have a huge trade asset in starter Marcus Stroman, who’s controllable through 2020, and teams are knocking their doors down trying to get him. (He left Saturday’s start early with a cramp, but he isn’t expected to miss time.) Stroman is a middle-of-the-rotation starter who has a chip on his shoulder, and he loves to compete. He can get groundballs, field his position and make a pitch when he needs to. He would be an improvement as a Game 3 starter for several aspiring playoff teams. Meanwhile, Ken Giles has had such a great season closing for the Jays that he might just have pitched himself onto a contender. Teams like the Red Sox, Braves, Cardinals, Twins and Rays could certainly use him, either as a closer or a set-up reliever. Aaron Sanchez could also get traded, but he hasn’t been consistent, and I doubt his trade value is high enough to make moving him at the deadline worthwhile. The Jays would move first baseman Justin Smoak and shortstop Freddy Galvis if there is a market for either one. Relievers Joe Biagini and Daniel Hudson could also get traded, with so many teams needing bullpen depth.

[BigBounceyBlueBalls]

Quick snippet from Jim Bowden’s recent Athletics article

 

Wait ... So Sogard is not a Moveable piece but

Galvis is Huh ??? I get the not having drury on this list but sogard interesting !

[BlueRocky]

More trade deadline stuff on The Athletics, great content on potential trade partners and their assets.

Highly recommended sub, especially when it goes on sale (happens all the time).

 

Not only does he highlight the teams that might be buyers, but the names they might be willing to deal. I think most of them will have some level of interest in Stroman or Giles.

 

“Bowden: A look at Futures game prospects who are most likely to be traded this month”

1. Jordan Balazovic, RHP, Minnesota Twins

 

Height: 6-4 Weight: 175 Age: 20 Bats: R Throws: R

Drafted by: Twins (5th round, 2016)

Stats (A/A+):

W-L: 6-3 ERA: 2.74 IP: 65 2/3 H: 49 R: 22 ER: 20 BB: 19 SO: 91

Scouting Grades:

FB: 60 SLI: 55 CB: 45 CH: 50 CTL: 50 CMND: 45

 

The Twins understand this is their window to bring a championship back to Minnesota, and they have an opportunity to trade for a top-of-the-rotation starter. Madison Bumgarner, who does not have a no-trade clause to Minnesota, would be the perfect trade target. The Twins are not going to trade their top prospects, including shortstop Royce Lewis and outfielder Alex Kiriloff, and are seemingly reluctant to include right-handed pitcher Brusdar Graterol. As much as they don’t want to trade Balazovic, either, that might be their only avenue to acquire a proven postseason starter such as Bumgarner.

 

2. Jarren Duran, OF, Boston Red Sox

 

Height: 6-2 Weight: 200 Age: 22 Bats: L Throws: R

Drafted: Red Sox (7th round, 2018)

Stats (A+/AA):

Slash line: .331/.398/.450 2B: 18 HR: 4 R: 63 SB: 24

Scouting Grades:

HIT: 50 PWR: 45 RUN: 65 ARM: 45 FLD: 55

 

The Red Sox are hoping that when Nathan Eovaldi returns from the injured list, he’ll be able to become their closer; their bullpen has already blown 17 games in the first half of the season. If Eovaldi can’t get the job done, then GM Dave Dombrowski will have to go to the trade market and try to land a reliever such as Shane Greene of the Tigers, Ken Giles of the Blue Jays or, possibly the best option, Will Smith of the Giants. The Giants are in dire need of improving their outfield prospect inventory, and Duran would be a solid fit. He projects to be a top-of-the-lineup leadoff hitter with game-changing speed potential.

 

3. J.B. Bukauskas, RHP, Houston Astros

 

Height: 6-0 Weight: 196 Age: 22 Bats: R Throws: R

Drafted: Astros (1st round, 2017)

Stats (AA):

W-L: 0-4 ERA: 6.33 IP: 64 H: 68 R: 52 ER: 45 BB: 42 SO: 72

Scouting Grades:

FB: 65 SLI: 60 CT: 50 CH: 55 CTL: 45 CMND: 40

 

The Astros had agreed in principle at last July’s trade deadline to deal Bukauskas as part of a package that would have landed outfielder Bryce Harper from the Nationals. Washington’s ownership ultimately nixed the deal. Now the Astros are committed to not trading their top two prospects — right-handed pitcher Forrest Whitley and top outfielder Kyle Tucker — but they would include Bukauskas in a deal if they can land a Game 3-type starter. The Astros are dealing with the reality that Gerrit Cole will test free agency at season’s end. If they can come up with a controllable starting pitcher such as Mathew Boyd of the Tigers or Caleb Smith of the Marlins, they might have to include Bukauskas in the deal.

 

4. Dylan Carlson, OF, St. Louis Cardinals

 

Height: 6-2 Weight: 205 Age: 20 Bats: B Throws: L

Drafted: Cardinals (1st round, 2016)

Stats (AA):

Slash line: .282/.366/.510 2B: 17 HR: 13 RBI: 46 SB: 12

Scouting Grades:

HIT: 50 PWR: 55 RUN: 45 ARM: 55 FLD: 55

 

The Cardinals trade outfielders on a regular basis — just ask the Rays how they’re enjoying Tommy Pham, the A’s how happy they are with Stephen Piscotty or the Blue Jays how they feel about Randal Grichuk’s power. It looks like the Cardinals will keep that trend going, and Dylan Carlson just might be the next up. The Cardinals could really use a back-end left-handed reliever, and, like the Red Sox, they match up well with the Giants on a potential Will Smith swap.

 

5. Deivi Garcia, RHP, New York Yankees

 

Height: 5-9 Weight: 163 Age: 20 Bats: R Throws: R

Undrafted free agent, 2016, out of the Dominican Republic.

Stats (A/AA):

W-L: 4-5 ERA: 3.01 IP: 68 2/3 H: 50 R: 27 ER: 23 BB: 33 SO: 114

Scouting Grades:

FB: 60 CB: 55 CH: 50 CTL: 55 CMND: 50

 

The Yankees are committed to acquiring another proven veteran starting pitcher as they prepare for the postseason, and with a loaded farm system, they shouldn’t have any problem making a deal for a pitcher such as Marcus Stroman of the Blue Jays. Garcia is a pitcher the Blue Jays scouts like a lot, thanks to his explosive fastball and knee-buckling curveball. The only questions left about Garcia’s potential are about his command of pitches in the strike zone, and whether he will get enough downward plane when he’s pitching at the bottom of the zone.

 

6. Gavin Lux, SS/2B, Los Angeles Dodgers

 

Height: 6-2 Weight: 190 Age: 21 Bats: L Throws: R

Drafted: Dodgers (1st round, 2016)

Stats (AA/AAA):

Slash line: .332/.392/.554 2B: 12 HR: 14 RBI: 41 SB: 7

Scouting Grades:

HIT: 55 PWR: 50 RUN: 60 ARM: 55 FLD: 52

 

The Dodgers have no interest in trading Lux, who’s having a banner breakout season. They can envision him as their second baseman of the future playing next to Corey Seager for years to come. However, L.A. is also committed to winning its first world championship since 1988, and if the right deal came along for an impact player, the Dodgers might, at the very least, consider using Lux as trade bait. Of course, it would have to be a truly high-caliber player to convince them to deal Lux. The Dodgers have the best team in the NL with or without making another trade at this year’s deadline — but after they acquired Yu Darvish two years ago, and Manny Machado last year, don’t put it past Andrew Friedman to surprise the baseball world and make that type of trade again this season.

 

7. Dustin May, RHP, Los Angeles Dodgers

 

Height: 6-6 Weight: 180 Age: 21 Bats: R Throws: R

Drafted: Dodgers (3rd round, 2016)

Stats (AA/AAA):

W-L: 4-5 ERA: 3.74 IP: 84 1/3 H: 76 R: 43 ER: 35 BB: 22 SO: 89

Scouting Grades:

FB: 60 CB: 60 CT: 55 CH: 50 CTL: 50 CMND: 50

 

If the Dodgers don’t include Lux in a major trade, then May might end up being the top prospect they sacrifice instead. May has continued to develop and looks like he will become a solid middle-of-the-rotation type starter — but with all the starting pitching depth the Dodgers have, they can make him expendable in the right deal.

 

8. Devin Williams, RHP, Milwaukee Brewers

 

Height: 6-3 Weight: 165 Age: 24 Bats: R Throws: R

Drafted: Brewers (2nd round, 2013)

Stats (AA):

W-L: 7-2 ERA: 2.59 IP: 48 2/3 H: 33 R: 16 ER: 14 BB: 29 SO: 66

Scouting Grades:

FB: 65 SLI: 55 CB: 50 CH: 45 CTL: 35 CMND: 40

 

Williams wasn’t on too many people’s radar when the season started, but after a tremendous first half, scouts from opposing teams are raving about him and think he’ll pitch in the big leagues this year. Williams was a top prospect when he was drafted in 2013, but it took a while for his stuff to return after he underwent Tommy John surgery. Now he’s back, with an overpowering fastball and nasty breaking ball. If his command and control arrive, he could end up being a huge surprise, and he’s definitely a prospect worth taking a chance on at this year’s trade deadline.

Edited July 8, 2019 by BlueRocky

[Slade]

 

 

It's sad to even think any of those three would be included in a Stroman deal but it's kind of what I expect from Atkins.

[Spanky99]

 

 

It's sad to even think any of those three would be included in a Stroman deal but it's kind of what I expect from Atkins.

 

Example A... a rumour took out of context.

[OtisNixonFan]

I like how we match up with the Twins. Would love to do something like Stroman/Giles for Larnoch/Balazovic/Duran.

 

Maybe thats wishful thinking but thats right about where I value the two.

[Terminator]

More trade deadline stuff on The Athletics, great content on potential trade partners and their assets.

Highly recommended sub, especially when it goes on sale (happens all the time).

 

Not only does he highlight the teams that might be buyers, but the names they might be willing to deal. I think most of them will have some level of interest in Stroman or Giles.

 

“Bowden: A looks at Futures game prospects who are most likely to be traded this month”

 

It would appear that Jim Bowden has somehow drastically improved his writing since leaving ESPN for The Athletic.

[Slade]

I like how we match up with the Twins. Would love to do something like Stroman/Giles for Larnoch/Balazovic/Duran.

 

Maybe thats wishful thinking but thats right about where I value the two.

 

That's about what I would really want from the Twins if they aren't giving up any of their top 3.

[Spanky99]

It would appear that Jim Bowden has somehow drastically improved his writing since leaving ESPN for The Athletic.

 

Editors.

[Barkerfan23]

I d9nt like trading with the Yankees or the Sox. Yankees have inquired about a package of Stroman and Giles lol but still no Frazier.

[Krylian]

I d9nt like trading with the Yankees or the Sox. Yankees have inquired about a package of Stroman and Giles lol but still no Frazier.

 

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