Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Pass away sounds gentle and peaceful and a soft way to get to the point. Die sounds more sudden, aggressive, and far more direct.
wilko Old-Timey Member Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Died/passed away... You're dead. Life = over.
Deadpool Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Nobody passes away from a stabbing, or a gunshot, or a suicide. There's definitely a connotation for "passing away".
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Author Posted July 4, 2019 Nobody passes away from a stabbing, or a gunshot, or a suicide. There's definitely a connotation for "passing away". No. You are thinking of “passed away peacefully”. Passed away literally means died, and it’s f***ing ridiculous that we’re still debating this.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 No. You are thinking of “passed away peacefully”. Passed away literally means died, and it’s f***ing ridiculous that we’re still debating this. Yes, so why are you?
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Use it however you want. But there is a right way and a wrong way. People are allowed to be wrong. It's their choice.
Pendleton Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 He would have been pitching tonight, it's tough to wrap your head around.
Ex Player Verified Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Cause of death wont be known until October. Suicide has been ruled out: https://www.nj.com/yankees/2019/07/angels-tyler-skaggs-dies-why-cause-of-death-will-take-months-to-determine.html
Krylian Old-Timey Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Cause of death wont be known until October. Suicide has been ruled out: https://www.nj.com/yankees/2019/07/angels-tyler-skaggs-dies-why-cause-of-death-will-take-months-to-determine.html Why does it take 4 months?
Ex Player Verified Member Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 Why does it take 4 months? No idea. Maybe they are backlogged?
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Why does it take 4 months? Says in the article: According to USA Today, Skaggs’ family requested the medical examiner withhold the autopsy information until then. ... probably not something you would associate with natural cause.
BTS Community Moderator Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Says in the article: According to USA Today, Skaggs’ family requested the medical examiner withhold the autopsy information until then. ... probably not something you would associate with natural cause. Must be drugs.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Must be drugs. This was always my assumption.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 What the hell kind of drugs was he doing as a professional athlete? Cocaine?
Ex Player Verified Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Must be drugs https://meaww.com/los-angeles-angels-pitcher-tyler-skaggs-died-of-drug-overdose-in-texas-hotel-local-paper-claim Los Angeles Angels refute claims pitcher Tyler Skaggs died of a drug overdose in Texas hotel The Los Angeles Angels released a statement shortly after the unexplained death of pitcher Tyler Skaggs publicly refuting claims made by the 27-year-old's hometown paper that he may have died from a drug overdose. The local paper had published a speculative story shortly after the sportsman's death. The pitcher was found unresponsive in his hotel room near Dallas on Monday, just two days after his conclusive performance for the Angels. Angels spokesperson, Marie Garvey, said: "This article is categorically incorrect. The cause of death is still under investigation as stated by the Southlake Police Department. We have tried to contact the paper to correct this story but have [been] unsuccessful in our attempts. This sort of reckless reporting from Tyler's hometown paper is disappointing and harmful," the Daily Mail reported. Meanwhile, Texas police released a statement, saying no foul play is suspected in the case. An autopsy has reportedly been completed, however, the results will not be immediately released. The speculative article, written by the Santa Monica (California) Observer's Stan Greene, reportedly referred to multiple other deaths while speculating about the possible circumstances surrounding Skagg's demise. The article also mentioned Tommy Hanson, a former Angels pitcher, who died of cocaine overdose two years after playing for the team in 2013. The Observer, in response to Angel's statement, said: "We replied that the story makes it clear the author is speculating and expressed our condolences to the Skaggs family." The paper has reportedly since deleted much of the speculation within the article. However, many social media users have posted the original version of the article, suggesting drug overdose. One Twitter user posted the original article, saying: "Given that Skaggs was in good mental health and seeing multiple doctors for injuries, it seems he made the same fatal mistake [recording artist] Tom Petty did last year," read the excerpt. "He obtained several opioid pain prescriptions from several doctors and didn't tell his doctors that he was seeing several doctors for the same painful problem. i.e. Petty simply overdosed on his own medication." "I am bothered that the original article referencing cocaine has been changed without any mention of the edit," wrote the commenter. "The prescription drug replacement seems like a CYA [cover your ass] move by the paper."
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 What the hell kind of drugs was he doing as a professional athlete? Cocaine? Speaking in terms of probability, yes, or opiods, or both. Cocaine on it’s own doesn’t really kill that many people, it’s when it’s cut with fentanyl that’s incredibly lethal. The opiod epidemic is widespread and doesn’t discriminate by tax bracket. A lot of athletes find themselves in post-surgery situations where they get addicted to painkillers, a much larger number than we ever hear about publicly.
Dr. Dinger Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 It’s irresponsible to speculate that in print journalism... even if it does seem likely. Leave that speculation for twitter and reddit.
Terminator Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Speaking in terms of probability, yes, or opiods, or both. Cocaine on it’s own doesn’t really kill that many people, it’s when it’s cut with fentanyl that’s incredibly lethal. The opiod epidemic is widespread and doesn’t discriminate by tax bracket. A lot of athletes find themselves in post-surgery situations where they get addicted to painkillers, a much larger number than we ever hear about publicly. Yeah Cocaine seems pretty likely to me. Can bounce back and pitch every 5 days. Opiods is possible too, seems a lot harder to pitch while doing that but you're right, athletes can and do get addicted to that. Brett Favre was a pretty famous case of that happening.
leaffie Verified Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 A friend, just young (28) fell and broke her shoulder. Her own dr. Prescribed opioids, and they werent really helping her, so he told her to increase dosage. Her and hubby went out for dinner, she had a glass of wine and went to bed and never woke up. Two little girls with no mother, because she didnt know about having wine when she was on painkillers. Mistakes are easily made and I hope for Skaggs family that is what this was.
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 How about you dont comment on a thread for once f*** Off!
Spanky99 Old-Timey Member Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 A friend, just young (28) fell and broke her shoulder. Her own dr. Prescribed opioids, and they werent really helping her, so he told her to increase dosage. Her and hubby went out for dinner, she had a glass of wine and went to bed and never woke up. Two little girls with no mother, because she didnt know about having wine when she was on painkillers. Mistakes are easily made and I hope for Skaggs family that is what this was. Yikes, that's horrific.
Bobthe4th Old-Timey Member Posted October 12, 2019 Author Posted October 12, 2019 Naively I thought maybe he’d be self medicating after injury and got a bad batch. Nope, looks like he was a full blown opiate addict and other Angels employees (potentially including other players) were/are too. Los Angeles Angels employee details team's knowledge of Tyler Skaggs' drug use to federal DEA investigators
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 Naively I thought maybe he’d be self medicating after injury and got a bad batch. Nope, looks like he was a full blown opiate addict and other Angels employees (potentially including other players) were/are too. Los Angeles Angels employee details team's knowledge of Tyler Skaggs' drug use to federal DEA investigators Yep, takes the sympathy right out the window IMO. Problem is that these guys have a lot of incentive to pitch right through the pain. A lot of blame will be thrown around but a 30 year old man ought to be responsible enough not to abuse drugs. That is the bottom line around it. Its going to be painful to listen to people blaming the MLB or the Angels organisation or the pharmaceuticals and ignore that every time he popped a pill he had a f***ing choice.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 and the funny thing is. He had Alcohol in his system, when every single f***ing warning around these pills makes it clear. Dont take Alcohol with depressants. Twitter has him as the victim in this ofcourse, the Angels failed him.
Jimcanuck Old-Timey Member Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 So it's not 100% on Skaggs, per my earlier posts.
Barkerfan23 Verified Member Posted October 12, 2019 Posted October 12, 2019 So it's not 100% on Skaggs, per my earlier posts. Taking drugs isn't a choice?
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