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Has everyone enjoyed their Victoria Day game experience?

 

This is pretty much exactly what I expected, except for the wrong Boston players doing the major damage (DFS).

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Blue Jays really missed the boat on trading Tepera. Can Maile finish this please.
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They should keep Feirebender for the rest of the season as a mop-up guy when we're losing 12-0, because I have a feeling we're gonna have a lot more of these types of games
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Fair enough. I don't watch the Jays this year because I don't have Sportsnet.

 

We dumped a lot of our channels also due to wifes austerity program. But if you have Rogers as your provider, check out Rogers Grid on channel 509. They show 6 channels at onetime therefore smaller on your screen but the jays game is always one of the 6 channels shown. You just need to toggle over to the channel to get audio.

DigitalRock FCL Blue Jays

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That is the point I've been trying to make in a round about way. All the complaining about bunting is stupid. It doesn't matter other than if it indicates larger problems in the organization.

 

What an awful take. Just because it's a lost season does not mean we should accept stupid decision making.... One (A lost season) is a lack of talent, the other is just ignorance and stupidity.

DigitalRock FCL Blue Jays

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Throwaway season (in terms of letting the kids and temporary placeholders play and take their lumps) should not mean you play the game the wrong way.

 

Exactly, one odes not preclude the other.

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What an awful take. Just because it's a lost season does not mean we should accept stupid decision making.... One (A lost season) is a lack of talent, the other is just ignorance and stupidity.

 

you're missing his point completely.

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Amazing game here at Wrigley, great atmosphere. Might get some extra fun too.

 

Seems really dumb of Kapler to try to get two innings from Dominguez with Neris available.

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Seems really dumb of Kapler to try to get two innings from Dominguez with Neris available.

 

I agree, I was expecting to see Neshek or Neris when they got in trouble. Realmuto just bailed him out maybe though.

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What an awful take. Just because it's a lost season does not mean we should accept stupid decision making.... One (A lost season) is a lack of talent, the other is just ignorance and stupidity.

 

What difference is 10 runs either way going to make?? Bunting or not bunting isn't going to change the win total by much. It's a small thing. I took a look at a couple of the baseball reference win expectancies for situations where we bunted. In the Vlad Debut game (bottom of the 9th) it actually improved the win expectancy. In the first Fenway game (Richard Urena Bunt) it was didn't change the win expectancy. I am sure there are other situations where it hurt the win expectancy... or maybe not. I don't know if the win expectancy considers the sequence of batters involved, or just is derived from average situations.

 

The bigger thing is player development, which has been awful so far. Maybe Charlie and the coaching staff don't have much of an effect on this. That seems to be what a lot of people think. I for one would like a coaching staff that

 

a) could work with Teoscar Hernandez and get him up to his great .250 .300 .430 potential (not .200 .270 .270)

B) could work with GurrielBABIP or whatever, to get him up to his great .270 .300 .400 potential as a utility man and not have YIPS.

c) could work with Brandon Dury to get him back to his amazing (sarcasm) seasons as a young player in Arizona instead of the .240 on base guy we see this year.

d) could work with Danny Jansen to get him to be some resemblence of the hitter he was in the minors and last year.

 

I don't know. Maybe this group of mediocre players are so awful, they were destined to collapse into the worst group of players this franchise has ever seen and wouldn't be any better or any worse under any coaching staff. Maybe Teoscar is really a .270 slugging guy, and can't get it up any higher.

 

If it's a player development year, it would be nice to see developement, and maybe that will come. Jansen is looking better lately, so is Mckinney... blah... blah.. blah...

DigitalRock FCL Blue Jays

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What difference is 10 runs either way going to make?? Bunting or not bunting isn't going to change the win total by much. It's a small thing. I took a look at a couple of the baseball reference win expectancies for situations where we bunted. In the Vlad Debut game (bottom of the 9th) it actually improved the win expectancy. In the first Fenway game (Richard Urena Bunt) it was didn't change the win expectancy. I am sure there are other situations where it hurt the win expectancy... or maybe not. I don't know if the win expectancy considers the sequence of batters involved, or just is derived from average situations.

 

The bigger thing is player development, which has been awful so far. Maybe Charlie and the coaching staff don't have much of an effect on this. That seems to be what a lot of people think. I for one would like a coaching staff that

 

a) could work with Teoscar Hernandez and get him up to his great .250 .300 .430 potential (not .200 .270 .270)

B) could work with GurrielBABIP or whatever, to get him up to his great .270 .300 .400 potential as a utility man and not have YIPS.

c) could work with Brandon Dury to get him back to his amazing (sarcasm) seasons as a young player in Arizona instead of the .240 on base guy we see this year.

d) could work with Danny Jansen to get him to be some resemblence of the hitter he was in the minors and last year.

 

I don't know. Maybe this group of mediocre players are so awful, they were destined to collapse into the worst group of players this franchise has ever seen and wouldn't be any better or any worse under any coaching staff. Maybe Teoscar is really a .270 slugging guy, and can't get it up any higher.

 

If it's a player development year, it would be nice to see developement, and maybe that will come. Jansen is looking better lately, so is Mckinney... blah... blah.. blah...

 

LOL...you are over thinking things bro. All the bunting is stupid regardless of were the team is at.

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