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Pretty good return to be honest. De Paul is the centerpiece but we could get something out of the other two.

 

Juan De Paul

Track Record: A $175,000 signing out of the Dominican Republic by the Mariners in 2014, De Paula has been traded twice in his career. He was acquired by the Giants in the August 2018 deal that sent Andrew McCutchen to the Yankees. After spending the majority of the last two seasons in the short-season New-York Penn League, the 21-year-old De Paula made only one start in the Giants organization in 2018, striking out nine and walking one in five innings with low Class A Augusta before the season ended.

 

Scouting Report: A skinny, 6-foot-3 righthander with plenty of room to add weight to his frame, De Paula has a plus fastball that sits in the mid-90s and touches 98 mph with above-average life. He has feel for both a changeup and curveball, although both pitches are currently below-average offerings with the chance to become average or above-average pitches in the future. De Paula's secondary pitches and overall control lack consistency at the moment, but that's widely to be expected from a 21-year-old with only one, late-season start in full-season ball.

 

The Future: De Paula has the three-pitch mix of a mid-rotation starter. He's raw and needs to improve his fringe-average control, but he'll receive much-needed experience at low Class A Augusta in 2019.

 

 

Ranked Pittsburgh Pirates #18 prospect after the 2016 season

Once considered among the Top 100 Prospects in baseball--he ranked No. 61 prior to the 2013 season and No. 76 in 2014--Hanson's stock has dropped over the last two years as he has been converted from a middle infielder into a utility player at Triple-A Indianapolis. He made his major league debut in 2016, coming off the bench mostly as a pinch-hitter and pinch-runner. Hanson has been unable to convert his considerable tools into consistent production, though his athleticism still makes him intriguing as a potentially valuable bench piece. The switch-hitter is wiry strong and can hit the occasional home run, and he also has outstanding speed that makes him a threat on the bases. However, he does not always make solid contact. Hanson is not a strong defender and his attitude was questionable earlier in his career. However, he has embraced learning multiple positions. Hanson is out of minor league options, so he will have to fight an uphill battle against Adam Frazier for the utility infielder spot on the Pirates roster.

 

 

 

Ranked San Francisco Giants #23 prospect after the 2015 season

Law is the son of a big leaguer--sort of. His father Joe made the Athletics big league roster for a few days but never appeared in a game. The younger Law impressed the Giants by piling up strikeouts wherever he went, but he fell to the ninth round in 2011 because scouts were concerned about the effort in his delivery. Their concerns were somewhat validated when Law blew out his elbow and required Tommy John surgery in 2014. He returned to action in late June 2015. His delivery still is not pretty and features a stab in his takeaway, stiffness in his lower half and a finishing spin-off to first base. But Law has toned down his hip turn as he gathers himself over the rubber, and he manages to stay around the strike zone consistently enough to receive average grades for his control. He hides the ball well with his over-the-top delivery, and his stuff bounced back nicely in his return. He still can run his plus fastball up to 93-96 mph, and his 12-to-6 breaking ball is a plus pitch as well, giving him two swing-and-miss offerings. Law is ready for Triple-A Sacramento and could help San Francisco at some point in 2016 as a setup man.

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In Alen Hanson, we are getting a former top prospect! Dominican player who can play anywhere in the field! Nice little pick up even if he doesn't player most weeks
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Meh. Two players who were recently DFA'd and aren't on the 40-man roster, and a s***** pitching prospect.

 

I don't understand the urgency to make this move. There is currently one hitter that's a) healthy, B) on the 40-man, and c) not on the 25-man: Reese McGuire.

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And I'll add in this years BA write up.

 

13. Juan De Paula | RHP

Juan De Paula

Born: Sep 22, 1997

Bats: R Throws: R

Ht.: 6'3" Wt.: 165

Drafted: Signed: Dominican Republic, 2014.

Signed By: Eddy Toledo/Tim Kissner (Mariners).

 

Track Record: A $175,000 signing out of the Dominican Republic by the Mariners in 2014, De Paula has been traded twice in his career. He was acquired by the Giants in the August 2018 deal that sent Andrew McCutchen to the Yankees. After spending the majority of the last two seasons in the short-season New-York Penn League, the 21-year-old De Paula made only one start in the Giants organization in 2018, striking out nine and walking one in five innings with low Class A Augusta before the season ended.

 

Scouting Report: A skinny, 6-foot-3 righthander with plenty of room to add weight to his frame, De Paula has a plus fastball that sits in the mid-90s and touches 98 mph with above-average life. He has feel for both a changeup and curveball, although both pitches are currently below-average offerings with the chance to become average or above-average pitches in the future. De Paula's secondary pitches and overall control lack consistency at the moment, but that's widely to be expected from a 21-year-old with only one, late-season start in full-season ball.

 

The Future: De Paula has the three-pitch mix of a mid-rotation starter. He's raw and needs to improve his fringe-average control, but he'll receive much-needed experience at low Class A Augusta in 2019.

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meh. Two players who were recently dfa'd and aren't on the 40-man roster, and a s***** pitching prospect.

 

I don't understand the urgency to make this move. There is currently one hitter that's a) healthy, B) on the 40-man, and c) not on the 25-manl reese mcguire.

 

ANTHONY ALFORD

 

cf

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I'd like to add that the Kevin Pillar hate is probably the most undeserved in Jays history. Probably just behind Rima Fakih
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anthony alford

 

Alford is up now. After him we have McGuire, and then literally no other bat on the 40-man. Whatever the opposite of a logjam was, that's what the team had in the OF before doing this. Feels like a move motivated by $ more than anything else.

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saskjayfan > you all!

 

lol..shatkins better negotiators than myself. I only got one player back, but at least I had one of the player right..lol. I truly was a Pillar fan and appreciated what he was and acknowledged his weaknesses as well. I'm super pumped for the trade though. I'm excited to see Alford up with the Jays.

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My favourite Alen Hanson write-up.

 

Hanson is a fairly limited offensive player as he doesn’t possess much power, doesn’t hit for average or get on base. He can't hit breaking and offspeed pitches (posting whiff rates over 40% against them) but finds playing time as he can play poor to average defense all over the field.

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Alford is up now. After him we have McGuire, and then literally no other bat on the 40-man. Whatever the opposite of a logjam was, that's what the team had in the OF before doing this. Feels like a move motivated by $ more than anything else.

 

Could be just getting what they can from him rather than non tender at the end of the year

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Giants easily win this deal. They are getting ~4 WAR over the next two years at a price cheap enough that is very likely to provide surplus value.

 

Hanson was DFA'd and is out of options. He generally sucks anyway and might not be any better than Urena. Not sure I would even want to bother making the corresponding roster moves to keep him on the roster. I'm not sure what to make of Law, he's been ok in his career and Steamer seems to like him but he fell out of favor with the Giants too and has been below replacement the last two years.

 

Juan De Paula looks like a lottery ticket.

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My favourite Alen Hanson write-up.

 

Hanson is a fairly limited offensive player as he doesn’t possess much power, doesn’t hit for average or get on base. He can't hit breaking and offspeed pitches (posting whiff rates over 40% against them) but finds playing time as he can play poor to average defense all over the field.

 

Will be interesting to see what the team decides to do with him. Law has already cleared waivers, so he can go to AAA and wait to have his contract selected, but I believe Hanson can still be claimed if Toronto doesn't keep him on the 25-man. I don't see who they'd option to make room though.

Community Moderator
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Giants easily win this deal. They are getting ~4 WAR over the next two years at a price cheap enough that is very likely to provide surplus value.

 

Hanson was DFA'd and is out of options. He generally sucks anyway and might not be any better than Urena. Not sure I would even want to bother making the corresponding roster moves to keep him on the roster. I'm not sure what to make of Law, he's been ok in his career and Steamer seems to like him but he fell out of favor with the Giants too and has been below replacement the last two years.

 

Juan De Paula looks like a lottery ticket.

 

Law was literally available for free a month ago and no teams claimed him. He's a non-factor. We'll see what happens with Hanson.

 

I agree, this move doesn't make much sense.

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I despised watching him hit but I have some appreciation for Pillar. He was an elite defender in his prime, gave us highlight after highlight, and was a very valuable player, pretty much the best case scenario for a 32nd round pick. I'm excited for Alford but Pillar deserves all the praise that he gets from many Jays fans.

 

The return is whatever, but no one pays for defense anyway. I'll take one lottery ticket and maybe Law won't be quite so awful, as relievers tend to just be like that sometimes.

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My favourite Alen Hanson write-up.

 

Hanson is a fairly limited offensive player as he doesn’t possess much power, doesn’t hit for average or get on base. He can't hit breaking and offspeed pitches (posting whiff rates over 40% against them) but finds playing time as he can play poor to average defense all over the field.

 

LMFAO

 

cf

Old-Timey Member
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Plus not good to have a ego maniac like Pillar sulking knowing he's not wanted. His demeanor was noticeably different

 

Is this a legit post or a troll?

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Alford is up now. After him we have McGuire, and then literally no other bat on the 40-man. Whatever the opposite of a logjam was, that's what the team had in the OF before doing this. Feels like a move motivated by $ more than anything else.

 

Money is good. Did Hanson ever clear waivers? He was DFA'd just 5 days ago. I think he now stays on our 25 man

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Yeah, I don't really get this.

 

Alford could use half of a season in AAA to prove he is worthy of an MLB roster spot. It's not like he was good last year.

 

Pillar trade could have easily been made around June or July, and if he was having a bad season you could just DFA him just as easily.

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